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Shartaun03 81F
6196 posts
1/25/2021 10:37 pm

I wonder if they are afraid of another riot if these people are tried in court. There is no rhyme or reason when it comes to justice. It is who you know and not what you know.
That is pretty terrible to leave a 15 year old black girl in a detention center just because she didn't do her homework. What next. I remember when I was growing up and where I lived there were no blacks. I didn't know who a black person was till I moved to a major city in Alberta. They were pretty obscure at that time. I find no fault in people of color. As far as I am concerned it is what is inside that counts and not the color of their skin.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
1/26/2021 5:49 am

People say racism is systemic..Although in way that's true that's not the whole story.
The injustice of the injustice of color.

Racism is much more a factor of injustice, (acceptance of and the control of it).. than the injustice is a factor of racism
Curing racism doesn't cure the injustice. But curing the injustice cures racism.

The people we call racists have a bigger problem than the color of a person's skin.
Injustice in America is what is systemic. Racism is just a symptom of it.
When we accept injustice in any form.. When we accept injustice as a controlling factor.. for any reason. We are allowing racism.

Trump can be called a racist.. by the actions of separating families and caging children at the border.. The reason for it.. is just an excuse..
The injustice of it.. Is all I need to know to call Trump a racist, and anybody who would accept the injustice of it... a racist
You may think these people do it, as a matter of color..
But don't kid yourself, if they do it as as matter of color....They would do it to you, no matter your color.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
1/26/2021 6:51 am

You may think these people do it, as a matter of color..
But don't kid yourself, if you think people do it as as matter of color....They still would do it to you, no matter your color. All they would need is a different justification.
In political justification you think it matters if a person is Black, or Liberal, or Hispanic, an immigrant, a different religion, an Atheist, A socialist, an illegal, a criminal, or a Democrat..
"Those people" don't have to KNOW who you are.. They just have to think who you are..

Of course the irony of it..And what causes their greatest fear... is those who would be Black, or Liberal, or Hispanic, an immigrant, a different religion, an Atheist, A socialist, an illegal, a criminal, or a Democrat.."Those people", also, don't have to KNOW who you are.. They just have to think who you are.. to justify their own injustices. That being White, Rich, Conservative Republican, Evangelical, Authoritarian, or Fascist.. Is enough justification..
One of the attributes of injustice and racism is... Do it to them before they do it to YOU. That's the only way to "control them"

How does one solve it?.. Not really sure it can be...But I know how to start it.. by looking in the mirror and solving your own problem with it first.
Not the racist part.. the injustice part.


Rocketship 80F
18566 posts
1/26/2021 7:02 am

Well said, Jiminy~~~~

*** This applies to ALL countries~~


GLUMO 89F
9730 posts
1/26/2021 11:43 am

The situation described in the first paragraph is the same in many countries, including mine. I do not know since when Justice is no longer blind ...


Trust in dreams, for in them is hidden the gate to eternity.(Khalil Gibran)


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
1/26/2021 2:45 pm

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    People say racism is systemic..Although in way that's true that's not the whole story.
    The injustice of the injustice of color.

    Racism is much more a factor of injustice, (acceptance of and the control of it).. than the injustice is a factor of racism
    Curing racism doesn't cure the injustice. But curing the injustice cures racism.

    The people we call racists have a bigger problem than the color of a person's skin.
    Injustice in America is what is systemic. Racism is just a symptom of it.
    When we accept injustice in any form.. When we accept injustice as a controlling factor.. for any reason. We are allowing racism.

    Trump can be called a racist.. by the actions of separating families and caging children at the border.. The reason for it.. is just an excuse..
    The injustice of it.. Is all I need to know to call Trump a racist, and anybody who would accept the injustice of it... a racist
    You may think these people do it, as a matter of color..
    But don't kid yourself, if they do it as as matter of color....They would do it to you, no matter your color.
Injustice is an extremely broad and variable term.......Obviously, racism is unjust. Systemic racism is injustice based on race that is chronic, habitual, socially sanctioned and difficult to uproot.......It is based on long-standing attitudes, beliefs and emotions that are seen as normal and therefore requires deliberate and determined efforts to change........ Justice is a process.....


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
1/27/2021 6:31 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    Injustice is an extremely broad and variable term.......Obviously, racism is unjust. Systemic racism is injustice based on race that is chronic, habitual, socially sanctioned and difficult to uproot.......It is based on long-standing attitudes, beliefs and emotions that are seen as normal and therefore requires deliberate and determined efforts to change........ Justice is a process.....
You like to put your definition in a nice clean little box..I don't fault that.. it works for you..So you can accept it.. But the problem is.. You expect others to accept it too.

It may seem to you to be common knowledge that racism is the greater injustice, because it has no basis, that other injustices may have. It's the reason I wrote this blog response.
People need to be careful how they separate injustices...By so doing, one can be persuaded that some injustices are more acceptable than others. To some people that may appear to be prioritizing.. but in reality it's NOT, It becomes less of a priority and more a justification of the acceptance of one's own injustices.

One of our motto's is.... Justice for one is justice for all. You can put that in a nice little box if you want to... But I don't.....i can easily agree with the box you put that in.. but in the real world , of misrepresentation, of jumbled minds, of justifications..It can take on a different meaning..

I absolutely hate "labels".. and that is the reason..
it's not exclusive to racism. but racists actually believe that a "reasonable justice" served for one black person.
Is a reasonable justice served to all black people. regardless of how unjust that may be.

And some others COULD believe that a" reasonable justice" served for one racist.. can be applied to All racist. regardless of how unjust that may be..

It's an irony ,of course, that black people don't deserve to be categorized in the same way that a racist can be categorized.. But here's the rub.. dehumanization.. is the groundwork for racism.. and at the base of it... one would tend to forget, that both a black person and a racist are human. The Injustice to one..is the Injustice to all.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
1/27/2021 8:07 am

    Quoting  :

with you and i .. it Never about disagreement..
for me I try to be careful not to feed the beast..

I try to be careful...When i say Donald Trump needs to be put in jail. that Donald Trump is the Worst president this country has ever seen. Second isn't even close
I try to be careful, limiting my assessment of Donald Trump to Donald Trump

Donald Trump didn't make us who we are..We made Donald Trump who he is...WE made mistakes that need to be forgivable..
But i can't extend that to Donald Trump..Donald Trump was never just a mistake.
i didn't need to hope for his overthrow.. It was inevitable.. Although Trump is human? He's ONE sick MF'er....Trump is not a typical racist..He's in a category all by himself.


TxJW_25 81M

1/27/2021 9:28 am

How strange it is.

We are talking about a mob of white goons led by the the defeated president in an attempt to overthrow our government Of the Unuted States Of America by storming the capital with Congress in session and the freaking repubs think it is NOT A PROBLEM

The current president is not that excited about it. Anyone there should be in jail along with the leaders. In any other country they would be.

If the repub party is allowed to exist we have a much bigger problem than we realize.
The republican party did this and is setting up to do it again if something is not done about it in 60 days with the Senate vote.
It is in everyones face & Biden better develop some balls FAST & kick a few white asses. The middle fence crap is not working.
They just tried to take over the government against the constitution you idiot. DO SOMETING.
HELL GET ANGRY!
Protect the country so they can't do it again.

OH OK
He ordered some more virus shots big damn whopee!


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
1/27/2021 11:13 am

    Quoting TxJW_25:
    How strange it is.

    We are talking about a mob of white goons led by the the defeated president in an attempt to overthrow our government Of the Unuted States Of America by storming the capital with Congress in session and the freaking repubs think it is NOT A PROBLEM

    The current president is not that excited about it. Anyone there should be in jail along with the leaders. In any other country they would be.

    If the repub party is allowed to exist we have a much bigger problem than we realize.
    The republican party did this and is setting up to do it again if something is not done about it in 60 days with the Senate vote.
    It is in everyones face & Biden better develop some balls FAST & kick a few white asses. The middle fence crap is not working.
    They just tried to take over the government against the constitution you idiot. DO SOMETING.
    HELL GET ANGRY!
    Protect the country so they can't do it again.

    OH OK
    He ordered some more virus shots big damn whopee!
people say things and give reasons...That you KNOW entirely makes them full of shit..
You can think they are lying to you... or you can think they are lying to themselves. If you think they are lying to themselves you realize it all a self made aberation.. You should be able to empathized.. and understand, as those kind of lies, that once caught up to you.. will catch up to them sooner or later.

Yet there is a very small number of people .. who's lies never catch up to them.. They stay infront of it their entire life.. Trump is one of those people. It can never catch up to them, and the only recourse is to punish them for it.. Trump NEEDS punishment. he will NEVER self-realize. the harm he has caused others and has caused to himself.. People like that need to be shown the consequences of their actions.. For someone like that, it doesn't matter if he can be rehabilitated, he probably won't.. It only matters that he pays the piper...It's the only type consequence that matters.. Trump needs to be stopped . and it's my opinion there is only one way to do that..It's too late for anything else
I'm pretty easy with my "benefit of the doubt".. so his supporters and The Republican Party get a pass FOR NOW. So that they MAY, see the light with self realization of what they are doing.. Whereas Trump has spent his entire life..knowing what he's doing.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
2/1/2021 1:56 pm

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    You like to put your definition in a nice clean little box..I don't fault that.. it works for you..So you can accept it.. But the problem is.. You expect others to accept it too.

    It may seem to you to be common knowledge that racism is the greater injustice, because it has no basis, that other injustices may have. It's the reason I wrote this blog response.
    People need to be careful how they separate injustices...By so doing, one can be persuaded that some injustices are more acceptable than others. To some people that may appear to be prioritizing.. but in reality it's NOT, It becomes less of a priority and more a justification of the acceptance of one's own injustices.

    One of our motto's is.... Justice for one is justice for all. You can put that in a nice little box if you want to... But I don't.....i can easily agree with the box you put that in.. but in the real world , of misrepresentation, of jumbled minds, of justifications..It can take on a different meaning..

    I absolutely hate "labels".. and that is the reason..
    it's not exclusive to racism. but racists actually believe that a "reasonable justice" served for one black person.
    Is a reasonable justice served to all black people. regardless of how unjust that may be.

    And some others COULD believe that a" reasonable justice" served for one racist.. can be applied to All racist. regardless of how unjust that may be..

    It's an irony ,of course, that black people don't deserve to be categorized in the same way that a racist can be categorized.. But here's the rub.. dehumanization.. is the groundwork for racism.. and at the base of it... one would tend to forget, that both a black person and a racist are human. The Injustice to one..is the Injustice to all.
You like putting your definitions in long, repetitive, self-contradicting, self justifying comments that ramble on and on.......I don't fault that, it works for you.......So you can accept it....But the problem is, you expect others to accept it too..........


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
2/6/2021 8:05 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    You like putting your definitions in long, repetitive, self-contradicting, self justifying comments that ramble on and on.......I don't fault that, it works for you.......So you can accept it....But the problem is, you expect others to accept it too..........
Not quite.. What you see is not an absolute... it's a possibility.. It's intended as a possibility.. My rambling, repetitive, contradiction is exactly that.. the assurance that what i say is not absolute but simply a possibility..
You deny possibility.. for the more concrete..
You deny multiple meanings... for the singular.

Then you say.. I expect others to agree and understand and accept my version.. that has no version.
Your version is not disagreed .. but a part of my version
But from your point of view my version doesn't contain yours, it's conflicting... why is that?

You define narrowmindedness.. You defined obdurate.. You define self centeredness

Disagree if you must... That I am the one defining you.. but i am not..
Because you are unable to see the possibility of what i have to say.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
2/6/2021 8:34 am

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    Not quite.. What you see is not an absolute... it's a possibility.. It's intended as a possibility.. My rambling, repetitive, contradiction is exactly that.. the assurance that what i say is not absolute but simply a possibility..
    You deny possibility.. for the more concrete..
    You deny multiple meanings... for the singular.

    Then you say.. I expect others to agree and understand and accept my version.. that has no version.
    Your version is not disagreed .. but a part of my version
    But from your point of view my version doesn't contain yours, it's conflicting... why is that?

    You define narrowmindedness.. You defined obdurate.. You define self centeredness

    Disagree if you must... That I am the one defining you.. but i am not..
    Because you are unable to see the possibility of what i have to say.
Vagueness wanders.....There's endless possibilities...being specific is not denying possibilities......it's merely dealing with one possibility at a time......that's what people do in conversations.......it's about passing the conversation back and forth.......attempting to include all possibilities is bogarding.....


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
2/6/2021 3:44 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    Vagueness wanders.....There's endless possibilities...being specific is not denying possibilities......it's merely dealing with one possibility at a time......that's what people do in conversations.......it's about passing the conversation back and forth.......attempting to include all possibilities is bogarding.....
vagueness doesn't wander...It puts a relative focus on things..
vagueness helps one to focus.. vagueness is a challenge.
vagueness never can stand on it own..

We differ in that i don't define right or wrong the way you do.
being right to you is a singular choice.. i don't believe that
Being right for me is just the "best choice" for me.