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Dear Mr. Census Taker, it matters to me.
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As well it should matter to you! An interesting read...
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As well it should matter to you! An interesting read...
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Our last name is Italian, but not spelled the same way that it is in Italy. In fact, some of his cousins in the USA have the same name with different spellings. Their grandfathers had changed the spelling because of people either not being able to pronounce it correctly when reading it, or intentionally mispronouncing it. The name is still grossly mispronounced, with some stumbling over it and turning it into words like sound like a version of diarrhea. The more polite thing to do is to ask how to pronounce it, but people aren't always polite. Prejudice against whole groups of people is certainly not new, and is something everyone should work against, but lately it has become a political football and is fostered and promoted to score points and get votes. I don't think it is ever going to be overcome by political action groups, legislature or government, but by individuals. Be a prism, spreading God's light and love, not a mirror reflecting the world's hatred.
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Our last name is Italian, but not spelled the same way that it is in Italy. In fact, some of his cousins in the USA have the same name with different spellings. Their grandfathers had changed the spelling because of people either not being able to pronounce it correctly when reading it, or intentionally mispronouncing it. The name is still grossly mispronounced, with some stumbling over it and turning it into words like sound like a version of diarrhea. The more polite thing to do is to ask how to pronounce it, but people aren't always polite. Prejudice against whole groups of people is certainly not new, and is something everyone should work against, but lately it has become a political football and is fostered and promoted to score points and get votes. I don't think it is ever going to be overcome by political action groups, legislature or government, but by individuals.
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I agree on all counts, ET!
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That's just how it is for first generation immigrants from one country to another where the languages are very different.....especially back in the day ......Par for the course.....
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Agreed, ET. Back in the day all of the ship manifests and other immigration documents were handwritten, just as census documents were. Today when people take on the huge task of uploading all that info, in many cases they're reading from old, worn documents complicated at times by bad handwriting. Not a task I'd want! Today with everything being computerized I'm sure like you said there are fewer errors.
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Very interesting read . I know of some foreign people living here in Ireland are given different names by their employer because of the difficulty we Irish have in pronouncing their names correctly. They are given an easier version of the name where possible. The ones I know of are happy enough with that arrangment, others I guess not so. A lot of Irish names are very hard to pronounce and spell also. It must be very difficult for people from other countries to get their tongue around some of our names .
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That's just how it is for first generation immigrants from one country to another where the languages are very different.....especially back in the day ......Par for the course.....
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Very interesting read . I know of some foreign people living here in Ireland are given different names by their employer because of the difficulty we Irish have in pronouncing their names correctly. They are given an easier version of the name where possible. The ones I know of are happy enough with that arrangment, others I guess not so. A lot of Irish names are very hard to pronounce and spell also. It must be very difficult for people from other countries to get their tongue around some of our names .
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There are plenty of eras in earlier census . I was told that my 3rd Great Grandmother was Native American. I found a census that listed her as Black. Which was she? Neither showed up in my DNA testing. There are many different spellings, of my German birthname. It turns out that my paternal great father was a major league alcoholic and abandoned the family. My great-grandmother had children and continued to list her absent husband as the legal father. My poor Uncle found out that he was 42 percent Irish and my grandfather was not his biological father. It was fun trying to nail down that one. Gotta love DNA
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There are plenty of eras in earlier census . I was told that my 3rd Great Grandmother was Native American. I found a census that listed her as Black. Which was she? Neither showed up in my DNA testing. There are many different spellings, of my German birthname. It turns out that my paternal great father was a major league alcoholic and abandoned the family. My great-grandmother had children and continued to list her absent husband as the legal father. My poor Uncle found out that he was 42 percent Irish and my grandfather was not his biological father. It was fun trying to nail down that one. Gotta love DNA
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I'm an immigrant myself, with a foreign name ......All the way through school my teachers accused me of misspelling my own name......Even as an adult...an editor took it upon himself to "correct" my name on my article without contacting me.......I have had to spell my names every time I verbally say it all my life.......My sisters all changed their names to conform to English......My brother's name was Arnt......yes, with an n.....a very common Norwegian name.....My sister's names were Rannveig, Synnøve, Bodil, Jorunn, Wenche,.......My surname is also unpronounceable in English.......This is a common situation for many immigrants......I doubt very much if your pronunciation of any of those names comes even close to being correct
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I'm an immigrant myself, with a foreign name ......All the way through school my teachers accused me of misspelling my own name......Even as an adult...an editor took it upon himself to "correct" my name on my article without contacting me.......I have had to spell my names every time I verbally say it all my life.......My sisters all changed their names to conform to English......My brother's name was Arnt......yes, with an n.....a very common Norwegian name.....My sister's names were Rannveig, Synnøve, Bodil, Jorunn, Wenche,.......My surname is also unpronounceable in English.......This is a common situation for many immigrants......I doubt very much if your pronunciation of any of those names comes even close to being correct
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