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Darter50516 66M
5669 posts
3/8/2023 4:41 am
^!^ HELP ! ^!^



I NEED an Einstein


I need the distance from point "A" to point "B" The diameter is 1475 inches. My desire is to have 2X6 at the 12-3-6--9 positions while 2X4 will hold the 1-2-4-5-7-8-10-11 positions Each piece will be cut at a 15degree angle,


Darter50516 66M
3857 posts
3/8/2023 5:00 am

I have plent of 2 X 4 but my 2 X 6 is limited so I can't just cut away experimenting on the distances. I have also not decided on the numerals. or color of wood stain if any before varnishing.... I am open to suggestions.


Darter50516 66M
3857 posts
3/8/2023 5:32 am

Think there was just a low rumble of thunder here???? MUTTs perked up their ears and looked at me. We are currently 35F... 2 C ... Could be rain/sleet/ ice/ or snow ???? We are also under a Winter Storm Advisory until Saturday ! Trucks are still rolling. I need to go to the Courthouse this afternoon... poor little Mercedes.

PS...
A DUMB dream last night... Our school drama club used to put on dinner theaters where you could have a meal then watch a production. I drempt I went and fell asleep during the play.... I got robbed while sleeping then woke up and nobody knew me. Everyone were strangers.


Rocketship 79F
18563 posts
3/8/2023 8:04 am

I would suggest you make a cardboard paper pattern to experiment on.

*Measure twice. Cut once. ~~ Is what my Father always said.

Good luck!!


Darter50516 66M
3857 posts
3/8/2023 8:14 am

    Quoting Rocketship:
    I would suggest you make a cardboard paper pattern to experiment on.

    *Measure twice. Cut once. ~~ Is what my Father always said.

    Good luck!!

My Grandfather said the same thing.... Both very smart men Rocket. My grandfather patented the devise to pick up the square bales of hay from the field and hoist them to the wagon.


Darter50516 66M
3857 posts
3/8/2023 8:50 am

    Quoting Rocketship:
    I would suggest you make a cardboard paper pattern to experiment on.

    *Measure twice. Cut once. ~~ Is what my Father always said.

    Good luck!!

What are your stain ideas for the wood? I can do just a clear coat, Fruitwood, or a dark Walnut.


Rocketship 79F
18563 posts
3/8/2023 12:03 pm

    Quoting Darter50516:
    What are your stain ideas for the wood? I can do just a clear coat, Fruitwood, or a dark Walnut.
Ahhhh.... That's beyond my areas of expertise.

Good luck with that!


TxJW038 81M

3/8/2023 2:38 pm

If each cut is at 15 degrees you can not get equal segments in the circle.

Any circle equals 360 degrees

360 divided by 15 = 24

You would need 24 boards

Each board would span 1/2 way across the diameter 14.75 divided by 2 =
7 3/8

24 boards minimum 7 3/8 long needed

cut them a little longer so when glued -----draw the circle from center with string, nail and pencil and sand to perfect circle.

WHEN SAWING your boards to 15 degrees-----------reverse and saw the next segment from opposite end at 15 degrees if possible -------that procedure should take a lot less lumber. LOL

AGAIN if all segments are at 15 degrees I can't see how the clock positions tou call out will get there.---------- some segments would have a different angle--- changing the size.

Good luck


TxJW038 81M

3/8/2023 2:45 pm

Min Wax golden oak wiping stain------ test on scrap wood

if it is too light mix in a small amount of walnut until it gets slightly browner.

Oak wood usually finishes well with golden oak.


TxJW038 81M

3/8/2023 2:48 pm

When stain is right ad clear overcoat.


TxJW038 81M

3/8/2023 2:58 pm

I made a typo up there . LOL
15 degrees WILL GIVe equal spacing in 360 degrees. LOL


Darter50516 66M
3857 posts
3/8/2023 3:35 pm

I guess I am up to my own devises then LOL!


Darter50516 66M
3857 posts
3/8/2023 3:40 pm

    Quoting TxJW038:
    If each cut is at 15 degrees you can not get equal segments in the circle.

    Any circle equals 360 degrees

    360 divided by 15 = 24

    You would need 24 boards

    Each board would span 1/2 way across the diameter 14.75 divided by 2 =
    7 3/8

    24 boards minimum 7 3/8 long needed

    cut them a little longer so when glued -----draw the circle from center with string, nail and pencil and sand to perfect circle.

    WHEN SAWING your boards to 15 degrees-----------reverse and saw the next segment from opposite end at 15 degrees if possible -------that procedure should take a lot less lumber. LOL

    AGAIN if all segments are at 15 degrees I can't see how the clock positions tou call out will get there.---------- some segments would have a different angle--- changing the size.

    Good luck
I have to get some cardboard as suggested and will cut some "tests" at 5.75" and some at 3.5" imitating a 2 XZ 6 and 2 X 4 respectively. Like "keystones around the perimeter.


Darter50516 66M
3857 posts
3/8/2023 3:42 pm

    Quoting TxJW038:
    Min Wax golden oak wiping stain------ test on scrap wood

    if it is too light mix in a small amount of walnut until it gets slightly browner.

    Oak wood usually finishes well with golden oak.
I don't have any 2" thick oak only pine or black walnut. Just not worth buying the wood for a shop closk which will get dusty. If it were to be a decorative item in the house a totally different story.


Darter50516 66M
3857 posts
3/8/2023 3:44 pm

    Quoting TxJW038:
    When stain is right ad clear overcoat.
I might do three different colors for the fabrication....


Darter50516 66M
3857 posts
3/8/2023 3:45 pm

    Quoting TxJW038:
    I made a typo up there . LOL
    15 degrees WILL GIVe equal spacing in 360 degrees. LOL
yep... I figured that.


Hungr4Yungr 75M
803 posts
3/8/2023 7:04 pm

I'm glad Einstein was able to find you because I can't remember how to calculate that kind of stuff anymore. Good luck with your clock project.


Steamboy_2472 64M
410 posts
3/8/2023 7:38 pm

    Quoting Darter50516:
    I have plent of 2 X 4 but my 2 X 6 is limited so I can't just cut away experimenting on the distances. I have also not decided on the numerals. or color of wood stain if any before varnishing.... I am open to suggestions.
I think 2x4 and 2x6 lumber is a bit too big if that's what you're talking about using for the numbers, I would use some other old auto parts for the numbers like wheel weights or lug nuts you know MacGyver it's redneck stuff like that 🤣🤣


Darter50516 66M
3857 posts
3/8/2023 8:03 pm

    Quoting Hungr4Yungr:
    I'm glad Einstein was able to find you because I can't remember how to calculate that kind of stuff anymore. Good luck with your clock project.
I have to find some cardboard to cut up for an accurate pattern Roger.


Darter50516 66M
3857 posts
3/8/2023 8:06 pm

    Quoting Steamboy_2472:
    I think 2x4 and 2x6 lumber is a bit too big if that's what you're talking about using for the numbers, I would use some other old auto parts for the numbers like wheel weights or lug nuts you know MacGyver it's redneck stuff like that 🤣🤣
LOL STR ! I need to use the 2" wood because I have plenty of it the metal went to the scrap yard for recycling last fall when we cleaned out the shop.


TxJW038 81M

3/9/2023 6:02 pm

IDEA------ save time.------- through that junk into the trash and buy a shop clock at Wal Mat for about $12.00. LOL


Darter50516 66M
3857 posts
3/10/2023 5:43 pm

    Quoting TxJW038:
    IDEA------ save time.------- through that junk into the trash and buy a shop clock at Wal Mat for about $12.00. LOL
LOL.......... We want it more personalized


wealthyman1 63M
7 posts
3/11/2023 6:07 pm

To find the circumference (the area around a circle).
3.14 x Radios x Radios = curcumference .
Then divide the circumference by the number of sections wanted, here it is 12.
this gives you the outside curve's measurement of each section.
then divide 360 degrees by 12, this is your angle.
Dwayne


wealthyman1 63M
7 posts
3/11/2023 6:34 pm

you need 360 degrees to complete the circle.
twelve, 15-degree cuts will not make a complete circle.
twelve pieces with a 30-degree cut will make a circle.
Your circumference is 170.786"
170.786" divided by 12 = 7.375"
Each cut needs to be 7.375" wide at the curve.
Make them all the same size 7.375" with a 30-degree angle cut.
You can combine one 2x4 and one 2x6 to make the 7.375".
First, glue the 2x4 and 2x6 together with a clamp.
trigger clamps work best for this.
Or buy 2x8s and cut them 7.375" each.
If you have any questions you know where to find me.
Dwayne.


wealthyman1 63M
7 posts
3/11/2023 6:37 pm

If you have a router you can cut your Roman numbers in, then stain.
You should only select 2 opposite colors and alternate every over one.
Unless you're going for the rainbow effect.
When you glue all the precut boards together, use a circular clamp i.e. hose clamp.
This will pull in all the boards tight.
You can buy a 15" or larger hose clamp at the hardware store


Darter50516 66M
3857 posts
3/11/2023 10:55 pm

    Quoting wealthyman1:
    To find the circumference (the area around a circle).
    3.14 x Radios x Radios = curcumference .
    Then divide the circumference by the number of sections wanted, here it is 12.
    this gives you the outside curve's measurement of each section.
    then divide 360 degrees by 12, this is your angle.
    Dwayne
I will have to work on it when I am not so chemo sick Dwayne.