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earthytaurus3 78F
15465 posts
11/7/2018 3:35 pm
Is it possible, now that Jeff Sessions iS FIRED ....


…. that he can come forward with his REASON for recusal? What can he reveal that would otherwise have been prohibitive and still be loyal to this president?

earthytaurus3 78F
38330 posts
11/7/2018 3:37 pm

…. Inquiring minds want to KNOW!


Maisie2013 67F
18666 posts
11/7/2018 4:07 pm

A President can fire anyone in his Cabinet any time he wants. The " timing" would never suit the Trump haters .


dusty117 68M
657 posts
11/7/2018 4:51 pm

Yesterday's election brings us one step closer to Trump's resignation.

I have to give Trump credit for one thing … everyone's talking about Jeff Sessions.


earthytaurus3 78F
38330 posts
11/7/2018 5:13 pm

    Quoting Maisie2013:
    A President can fire anyone in his Cabinet any time he wants. The " timing" would never suit the Trump haters .
Once again, you did NOT address my concern.


earthytaurus3 replies on 11/7/2018 5:14 pm:
And he DOES … right and left! Nobody can work with or for the asshole.

Rentier2 74M
129 posts
11/7/2018 5:28 pm

I think this is just another example of Mr. Trump's promise to drain the swamp.

Next is Mueller.
And not too soon, IMHO.


earthytaurus3 78F
38330 posts
11/7/2018 6:00 pm

    Quoting Rentier2:
    I think this is just another example of Mr. Trump's promise to drain the swamp.

    Next is Mueller.
    And not too soon, IMHO.
You are an enigma wrapped in a riddle ………..


earthytaurus3 replies on 11/7/2018 6:01 pm:
…. which I think you work hard at.

earthytaurus3 78F
38330 posts
11/7/2018 6:03 pm

    Quoting dusty117:
    Yesterday's election brings us one step closer to Trump's resignation.

    I have to give Trump credit for one thing … everyone's talking about Jeff Sessions.
He'll never yield …. never.


earthytaurus3 78F
38330 posts
11/7/2018 6:08 pm

So far, no one has addressed my question.


bigblock46 72M
8003 posts
11/7/2018 6:23 pm

In a USA Today op-ed from July 2016, Matthew Whitaker, slated to be the interim Attorney General, said he disagreed with former FBI Director James Comey’s conclusion that “no reasonable prosecutor” would bring charges on Clinton.

“Director Comey’s judgment was that ‘no reasonable prosecutor’ would bring the case,” he wrote. “I disagree. I believe myself to have been a reasonable prosecutor, and when the facts and evidence show a criminal violation has been committed, the individuals involved should not dictate whether the case is prosecuted.”

I will say Matt Whitaker ain't nobody to be messed around with.


CarolinaPanthera 57F
1887 posts
11/7/2018 7:05 pm

    Quoting Maisie2013:
    A President can fire anyone in his Cabinet any time he wants. The " timing" would never suit the Trump haters .
Sorry that I have to inform you of this, but everyone doesn't have to like Trump. You can worship him all you want. I don't have to. It won't be the end of the world. I promise! Stop throwing tantrums. It's about to get better... now.

I hate Trump...You hate Hillary.

You say tomato, I say tomahto.


deborahsu2 78F
2779 posts
11/7/2018 7:53 pm

I was hoping all political stuff would stop after the election was over. Guess that was too much to hope for.


earthytaurus3 78F
38330 posts
11/7/2018 8:09 pm

    Quoting deborahsu2:
    I was hoping all political stuff would stop after the election was over. Guess that was too much to hope for.
The guy in the top seat had a thing or two to do with it … you suppose?


earthytaurus3 78F
38330 posts
11/7/2018 8:10 pm

    Quoting CarolinaPanthera:
    Sorry that I have to inform you of this, but everyone doesn't have to like Trump. You can worship him all you want. I don't have to. It won't be the end of the world. I promise! Stop throwing tantrums. It's about to get better... now.

    I hate Trump...You hate Hillary.

    You say tomato, I say tomahto.


LOL!!!


earthytaurus3 78F
38330 posts
11/7/2018 8:11 pm

    Quoting bigblock46:
    In a USA Today op-ed from July 2016, Matthew Whitaker, slated to be the interim Attorney General, said he disagreed with former FBI Director James Comey’s conclusion that “no reasonable prosecutor” would bring charges on Clinton.

    “Director Comey’s judgment was that ‘no reasonable prosecutor’ would bring the case,” he wrote. “I disagree. I believe myself to have been a reasonable prosecutor, and when the facts and evidence show a criminal violation has been committed, the individuals involved should not dictate whether the case is prosecuted.”

    I will say Matt Whitaker ain't nobody to be messed around with.
Do we have to go back two years again????


earthytaurus3 78F
38330 posts
11/7/2018 8:12 pm

ISN'T ANYONE CURIOUS TO KNOW JUST WHY SESSIONS RECUSED HIMSELF TO BEGIN WITH?? THAT'S WHAT THIS BLOG IS ABOUT.


starwomyn 65F
5903 posts
11/7/2018 9:12 pm

I suspect that Sessions can write a book about his relationship with Trump. There is "Unhinged," written Omarosa Manigault Newman. He won't be the first disgruntled employee to make write a book about a former employer.

condemnant quod non intellegunt


earthytaurus3 replies on 11/8/2018 2:17 am:
Read it. Just passed my copy on to a neighbor.

sparkleflit 71F
3469 posts
11/7/2018 10:18 pm

I always thought Sessions recused himself because he hadn't been completely straight with the Senate Judiciary Committee..He was awfully evasive........I don't recall etc.


Katie_au_lait 72F
6315 posts
11/8/2018 1:19 am

ET...I think this is why.

It's part of a BBC article this morning.

The president cannot directly fire the special counsel, whose investigation Mr Trump has repeatedly decried as a witch hunt. But Mr Sessions's replacement will have the power to fire Mr Mueller or end the inquiry.

Whatever Trump is hiding, it has to be seriously damaging to him both personally and politically. It's very telling that he fires Sessions just when Democrats gain control of the House of Representatives and step up the investigation!.


Katie_au_lait 72F
6315 posts
11/8/2018 1:24 am

***** I meant "and will want to step up the investigation"


earthytaurus3 78F
38330 posts
11/8/2018 2:18 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    I always thought Sessions recused himself because he hadn't been completely straight with the Senate Judiciary Committee..He was awfully evasive........I don't recall etc.
Something to do with his awareness and his witness to meetings with Russian officials, I think.


earthytaurus3 78F
38330 posts
11/8/2018 2:19 am

    Quoting deborahsu2:
    I was hoping all political stuff would stop after the election was over. Guess that was too much to hope for.
Me, tooooooooooooooooooooo! My hopes have already vanished.


earthytaurus3 78F
38330 posts
11/8/2018 2:23 am

    Quoting Katie_au_lait:
    ET...I think this is why.

    It's part of a BBC article this morning.

    The president cannot directly fire the special counsel, whose investigation Mr Trump has repeatedly decried as a witch hunt. But Mr Sessions's replacement will have the power to fire Mr Mueller or end the inquiry.

    Whatever Trump is hiding, it has to be seriously damaging to him both personally and politically. It's very telling that he fires Sessions just when Democrats gain control of the House of Representatives and step up the investigation!.


Exactly! If he were as innocent as he tries to convince us he is, he wouldn't be acting like a cat on a hot tin roof when things close in on him.


bob77O21__ 75M
8001 posts
11/8/2018 6:08 am

    Quoting earthytaurus3:
    Me, tooooooooooooooooooooo! My hopes have already vanished.
If they had truly vanished, you'd not have posted this blog which is definitely political .


Rentier2 74M
129 posts
11/8/2018 6:47 am

    Quoting deborahsu2:
    I was hoping all political stuff would stop after the election was over. Guess that was too much to hope for.
Me too.

I think we should go back to discussing recipes and doggy bathroom habits.


Rentier2 74M
129 posts
11/8/2018 6:51 am

    Quoting earthytaurus3:
    ISN'T ANYONE CURIOUS TO KNOW JUST WHY SESSIONS RECUSED HIMSELF TO BEGIN WITH?? THAT'S WHAT THIS BLOG IS ABOUT.
My understanding is that he talked to DOJ staff and was told he was in a conflict of interest position because of his involvement in Mango's presidential campaign.

Being a experienced legal beagle, he agreed with that, and stepped aside.

Whether he did this on principle or personal reasons I will leave to others to speculate on.


Rentier2 74M
129 posts
11/8/2018 6:53 am

    Quoting starwomyn:
    I suspect that Sessions can write a book about his relationship with Trump. There is "Unhinged," written Omarosa Manigault Newman. He won't be the first disgruntled employee to make write a book about a former employer.
There books by disgruntled non-employees as well.

Bob Woodward and Rick Wilson are two.

Wilson is a long time Republican strategist noted for his negative political ads.

He did a book tour that is on u-tube.
He is very persuasive.


Maisie2013 67F
18666 posts
11/8/2018 7:07 am

    Quoting CarolinaPanthera:
    Sorry that I have to inform you of this, but everyone doesn't have to like Trump. You can worship him all you want. I don't have to. It won't be the end of the world. I promise! Stop throwing tantrums. It's about to get better... now.

    I hate Trump...You hate Hillary.

    You say tomato, I say tomahto.


I would say the same thing if Hillary had won and fired her AG. Obama changed AG's, so do a lot of Presidents. It's Constitutional, and they work for him. Case closed.


earthytaurus3 replies on 11/8/2018 7:57 am:
Hillary DID win … the popular vote.

bijou649 69F
70 posts
11/8/2018 7:08 am

I heard Sessions will run for Senate again so he probably won't write a tell all book or do interviews or explain why he recused himself without Trump's permission or go into why he was fired. Trump can't seem to get along with anyone, including foreign leaders, his own cabinet and staff, reporters, past presidents, women in general, etc etc The only friends he has left are Ivanka and Putin. lol


Maisie2013 67F
18666 posts
11/8/2018 7:10 am

Sessions recused himself back in 2017 because of his previous political support of the President. He was the first Senator to endorse Trump as a candidate. He thought it would be seen as a conflict of interest.


Rentier2 74M
129 posts
11/8/2018 7:18 am

Major Garrett, formerly of Fox news, has written a book as well.

In it he says that Sessions resigned in May of 2017, the day Mueller was appointed.

Sessions was chased down by one of Mango's minions and told to take back the resignation because it would look bad since it would be on the same day that Mueller got his job.


earthytaurus3 78F
38330 posts
11/8/2018 7:56 am

LOTS of speculation.


jiminycricket1 68M
9634 posts
11/8/2018 8:23 am

It's the set-up of the set-up..

First it's a distraction.. second it's set-up for the emotional response of Democrats, before Whitaker does anything.... That set-up ,means Democrats are on a "witch hunt".. before there is anything to hunt.

Which sets-up.. the big picture.....the "witch hunt" of Trump..

So whatever he does...won't be squashing the investigation.. It will be squashing the "witch hunt"
So it's what he will tell his supporters.. And Democrats will help them.. TO BELIEVE THAT LIE....


Katie_au_lait 72F
6315 posts
11/8/2018 8:35 am

There will always be speculation over any trump regime machinations...his swamp is murky.
For instance, it's entirely possible that trump and sessions arranged this months ago specifically, as damage limitation, in case the Democrats won the House.


LeafReport 67M
229 posts
11/8/2018 9:32 am

    Quoting bigblock46:
    In a USA Today op-ed from July 2016, Matthew Whitaker, slated to be the interim Attorney General, said he disagreed with former FBI Director James Comey’s conclusion that “no reasonable prosecutor” would bring charges on Clinton.

    “Director Comey’s judgment was that ‘no reasonable prosecutor’ would bring the case,” he wrote. “I disagree. I believe myself to have been a reasonable prosecutor, and when the facts and evidence show a criminal violation has been committed, the individuals involved should not dictate whether the case is prosecuted.”

    I will say Matt Whitaker ain't nobody to be messed around with.
This dude is corrupt...you can't do anything in Iowa without coming out corrupt, racist, disgraced or with gonorrhea. Those that stay tip toe through the tulips in 50 MILLION tons of pig crap.


dusty117 68M
657 posts
11/8/2018 11:02 am

Paul Ryan on Jeff Sessions recusal .. “If he himself is the subject of an investigation, of course he would. If he is not, I don’t see any purpose or reason for doing this.”

As I recall, under oath Sessions sited some "rule of law" ( but he couldn't document it ) for refusing to answer question about Trump campaign aides’ contacts with Russians.

Translation … Sessions at the time didn't know what set of lies Trump plans on telling if and when subpoenaed.

Whitaker needs recuse himself too. Google his name … there's plenty of evidence showing he's "connected" to the Trump's campaign ... that's reason enough to call for his recusal.


CarolinaPanthera 57F
1887 posts
11/8/2018 11:03 am

    Quoting Maisie2013:
    I would say the same thing if Hillary had won and fired her AG. Obama changed AG's, so do a lot of Presidents. It's Constitutional, and they work for him. Case closed.
You might get away with telling hubby "case closed," but I'm not your pushover hubby. If I have something to say, I'll say it, and when I'm done, I'll decide when the case is closed.

Again, you have to be reminded that Hillary did win the popular vote. Many more millions of Americans voted for her than they did the POS-in-chief you so adore.


jiminycricket1 68M
9634 posts
11/8/2018 12:11 pm

    Quoting LeafReport:
    This dude is corrupt...you can't do anything in Iowa without coming out corrupt, racist, disgraced or with gonorrhea. Those that stay tip toe through the tulips in 50 MILLION tons of pig crap.
Let's be reasonable..

The reaction is exactly the reaction Trump wants.

Mueller's not going to get fired......He's going to get controlled.. at least that will be the attempt.

We won't be told what that control is ......such as finance and preventing any more American indictments...

i would venture to guess in the firing...... Whitaker's not that stupid to hang his neck out that far..No Statute of Limitations for that obstruction.

Anyway.... number one on this list is to not have Mueller's report made public..Whitaker can do that

Now what 's going to happen... After two more months of nothing.. After the last three weeks of nothing.....Three months of nothing..
Then the Democrats take the House, and three month of nothing becomes something. So the Democrats will make it happen.. and making it happen means it's a Democrat "witch hunt".

Right now... we got to hope Mueller's got a plan.... that Rosenstein can get behind..without it.. It's a stalemate. A stalemate is what Trump wants... It is the best that Trump can do.

I know it's both scary and a benefit.. But little so they say about the FACT.. That Mueller is a lifelong REPUBLICAN

As crazy as this may sound.. As unlikely as it may seem..(I'm sure Trump is counting on it) As the proof we have had so far....As unsinkable as Mueller is to leaks.. Whitaker maybe steering this Titanic into an iceberg....So when we see the first leak, it means that's Mueller's plan is to sink Whitaker's boat. To show US in the next two months, a shit storm of stuff has happened.

Now... alternate plan would be to have Mueller fired for the leaks... But Trump is such an egomaniac.. He certainly will underestimate Mueller.. Mueller ain't NO Comey!..You got to Play by Mueller's rules... I know I wouldn't want to be the one to piss Mueller off..those silent types may seem vulnerable.. but most of them are deadly if you ever get exposed to their venom... And I know for certain... people who don't have voice.. will have other people's ears.


YA_YA 80F
1785 posts
11/8/2018 12:22 pm

Google your question..........I found several sources for answer there.........make up your own mind ...........which could possibly avoid another firestorm in this place, which is certainly not needed

"We are in a battle for the soul of America......."


earthytaurus3 78F
38330 posts
11/8/2018 5:36 pm

    Quoting YA_YA:
    Google your question..........I found several sources for answer there.........make up your own mind ...........which could possibly avoid another firestorm in this place, which is certainly not needed
Tell your friends that. There's no reason under the sun that you have to be here.


LeafReport 67M
229 posts
11/8/2018 6:46 pm

    Quoting deborahsu2:
    I was hoping all political stuff would stop after the election was over. Guess that was too much to hope for.
I don't blame you for wanting to stop talking about the massive failures of the republican party and the latest episode of obstruction of justice from Trump. But let's move on in good will. I like you Deborah.

So tell me...just to begin a conversation. Can you name 3 movies that you hold dear for one reason or another? It always tell a story about who we are as people in a small way.


LeafReport 67M
229 posts
11/8/2018 6:55 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    I always thought Sessions recused himself because he hadn't been completely straight with the Senate Judiciary Committee..He was awfully evasive........I don't recall etc.
Yep....that is exactly my view too. I was just going to say something along these lines. He was smart enough to know that answering the way he did marginalized the testimony of others to the Grand Jury. I have my doubts that he would have been stupid enough to go along with the Russian collusion...but I also think he was enough of a wimp to turn a blind eye to something others were doing. Do not recall was a political cleansing of his culpability...annoying but effective. He's betting his reputation is enough to protect him from the Grand Jury testimony of others. Will he get away with it? He might.


CarolinaPanthera 57F
1887 posts
11/8/2018 7:36 pm

    Quoting earthytaurus3:
    Tell your friends that. There's no reason under the sun that you have to be here.


starwomyn 65F
5903 posts
11/8/2018 8:19 pm

    Quoting CarolinaPanthera:
    You might get away with telling hubby "case closed," but I'm not your pushover hubby. If I have something to say, I'll say it, and when I'm done, I'll decide when the case is closed.

    Again, you have to be reminded that Hillary did win the popular vote. Many more millions of Americans voted for her than they did the POS-in-chief you so adore.
The popular vote doesn't mean jack. The electoral voting system was designed so that a diversity of people can have a voice. The rural farmer as well as the city dweller. Folks in rural America supported Trump because the Status Quo was not working for them. It has nothing to do with POTUS adulation, it has to do with who is the best person for the job and who can get it done.

condemnant quod non intellegunt


sparkleflit 71F
3469 posts
11/9/2018 7:06 pm

    Quoting starwomyn:
    The popular vote doesn't mean jack. The electoral voting system was designed so that a diversity of people can have a voice. The rural farmer as well as the city dweller. Folks in rural America supported Trump because the Status Quo was not working for them. It has nothing to do with POTUS adulation, it has to do with who is the best person for the job and who can get it done.
Oh dear......I think you actually believe that.....


starwomyn 65F
5903 posts
11/9/2018 10:45 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    Oh dear......I think you actually believe that.....
I understand United State politics better some of the alleged Canadians

condemnant quod non intellegunt


Rentier2 74M
129 posts
11/10/2018 7:00 am

    Quoting starwomyn:
    I understand United State politics better some of the alleged Canadians
The electoral system was put in place to prevent mob rule.

The Founding Fathers never anticipated that the chief mobster would ever win.


CarolinaPanthera 57F
1887 posts
11/10/2018 1:54 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    Oh dear......I think you actually believe that.....
Poor star. she's so confused. One minute she's sleeping on a church floor on her way to Washington to protest, and the next minute she's a raving trump republican. She says the reason she left the Democrat party was because of biased news. Apparently she's been guzzling the Kool-Aid while she binge watches state TV.


earthytaurus3 78F
38330 posts
11/11/2018 10:45 am

    Quoting CarolinaPanthera:
    Poor star. she's so confused. One minute she's sleeping on a church floor on her way to Washington to protest, and the next minute she's a raving trump republican. She says the reason she left the Democrat party was because of biased news. Apparently she's been guzzling the Kool-Aid while she binge watches state TV.
It appears the new alliance was a segue to aggression.


CarolinaPanthera 57F
1887 posts
11/11/2018 3:10 pm

    Quoting earthytaurus3:
    It appears the new alliance was a segue to aggression.
That it does. She apparently went from a Democrat who makes trips to Washington to protest, to the extreme right overnight. Me thinks someone is politically confused. But hey, the extreme right sent her a man.


earthytaurus3 78F
38330 posts
11/11/2018 5:11 pm

    Quoting starwomyn:
    The popular vote doesn't mean jack. The electoral voting system was designed so that a diversity of people can have a voice. The rural farmer as well as the city dweller. Folks in rural America supported Trump because the Status Quo was not working for them. It has nothing to do with POTUS adulation, it has to do with who is the best person for the job and who can get it done.
The popular vote speaks to the heart of those that voted.


bob77O21__ 75M
8001 posts
11/12/2018 11:28 am

    Quoting earthytaurus3:
    The popular vote speaks to the heart of those that voted.
It speaks to the heart of those who think countrywide mob rule should prevail.