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jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
2/20/2019 7:48 am

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Trump has the right to say whatever he wants.. and WE have the right to call it a Lie..
Trump believes that being president gives him immunity from Lying...Not so..

Other Presidents have at times, been accused of Lying....lying about the meaning of facts.. lying to self serve. lying to protect their ideology, Lying to maintain their base support..Lying to fool all their constituency... it happened... and people call them on it.
Especially those with ideological conflict.

As it relates to all the other Lies ...other President have said.... Trump is different.. He does one or the other.. ALL THE TIME.. I no longer question if it's a lie.. It's a lie until proven otherwise.....And that has YET to be proven about anything.... he's ever said.

My particular caveat to it.... for me.. is I don't have ANY ideological conflicts with Trump.. I have No prejudicial reason for my judgment......It is.. what it is.
I use to try and figure out the intent.. whether he lied on purpose for some nefarious intent or just doesn't know the difference...I don't know that answer.. but, I don't give a shit.. anymore.

I didn't hate the man.. and found the evidence..
I found the evidence.. and it causes me to hate the man.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
2/20/2019 8:49 am

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We deal with the unbelievable every day..And it is in the unbelievable.. where the die is cast.. that anything can be believable.. Keep saying it... til it becomes a truth, The confusion of Truth and Lies..

The idea that a significant number of people are 'donating' for "THE WALL" is unbelievable
The idea that 35% of this country.. doesn't know what a Lie is. is unbelievable
The idea that ALL the actions of Trump about Russia...have not benefited Russia is unbelievable. and has not done exactly what Russia would have wished for.
The idea that a man can go up to woman and grab her pussy..because she wants him to, because he specifically is entitled...the idea that someone could even say it. No matter if he would do it....Is unbelievable.
The idea that there was NO COLLUSION, NO COLLUSION, NO COLLUSION..With forty indictments and guilty pleas.. is unbelievable.
The idea of a conspiracy..that the entire country is one big conspiracy..is unbelievable. that Intelligence agencies . Law enforcement and Justice is a conspiracy
The idea that anybody could believe that "boofing' was flatulence is unbelievable.
which only goes to prove... that what comes out an "ASS".. is the same thing that goes into an "ASS" .....and the unbelievable confusion, of the male gender... as to what is a "p*ssy fart" UNBELIEVABLE?
The idea that the "news media" is an enemy of the people is unbelievable

.. It's all not true.....Yet... We are living in an unbelievable time...Which we are FORCE to believe.. it's believable.. It's all propaganda.....It's just another LIE.
they are trying to FOOL us to believe the unbelievable is believable..

In regards to "the waaaahl" it's all propaganda to get idiots who believe the unbelievable to donate.. Don't believe me.. Trump does it all the time.. he makes a State Union and ask for campaign donations.. He wants to build a wall, and asked for donation.. he will fight your fear.. He creates.. if you just donate. He doesn't come out and say it DIRECTLY.. because he doesn't need to.. when some people can believe the unbelievable is believable.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
2/20/2019 9:06 am

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So you believe "twitter'? You 'bot' into it?

The irony of course....is you just got four people on this site to think.. that's a good idea and to donate..

UNBELIEVABLE!


LeafReport 73M

2/20/2019 9:10 am

I can't take it anymore Earthy. You got the watch on these goons. I have to rest for awhile. It's such an arduous task trying to cope with astonishing ignorance and stupidity. Good luck until I get back.


LeafReport 73M

2/20/2019 9:12 am

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    Trump has the right to say whatever he wants.. and WE have the right to call it a Lie..
    Trump believes that being president gives him immunity from Lying...Not so..

    Other Presidents have at times, been accused of Lying....lying about the meaning of facts.. lying to self serve. lying to protect their ideology, Lying to maintain their base support..Lying to fool all their constituency... it happened... and people call them on it.
    Especially those with ideological conflict.

    As it relates to all the other Lies ...other President have said.... Trump is different.. He does one or the other.. ALL THE TIME.. I no longer question if it's a lie.. It's a lie until proven otherwise.....And that has YET to be proven about anything.... he's ever said.

    My particular caveat to it.... for me.. is I don't have ANY ideological conflicts with Trump.. I have No prejudicial reason for my judgment......It is.. what it is.
    I use to try and figure out the intent.. whether he lied on purpose for some nefarious intent or just doesn't know the difference...I don't know that answer.. but, I don't give a shit.. anymore.

    I didn't hate the man.. and found the evidence..
    I found the evidence.. and it causes me to hate the man.
I just told Earthy I couldn't take it anymore. You are awesome but you'll have to suck it up and take it to these clowns until I recharge a bit. Fight the good fight...I'll never completely abandon you...LOL


sewg1941 82F

2/20/2019 12:01 pm

Some idiots need to choke on the truth before they'll accept it. So they deserve to lose money to the likes of Trump. I don't feel sorry for them one little bit. Trump is just like any other bible thumper on TV who wrings the last pennies out of an old lady's purse when she's starving to begin with. No remorse, no nothing... they are useless human beings who contribute nothing but grief ... but not for me... I do NOT feel sorry for those in the USA... they should know better... they don't have the excuse that they live in a 3rd world country. Idiots... plain idiots!! They probably have never read anything but the Bible...sheesh!!!


lilium6 74F
4498 posts
2/20/2019 12:57 pm

But it remained for the Jews, with their unqualified capacity for falsehood, and their fighting comrades, the Marxists, to impute responsibility for the downfall precisely to the man who alone had shown a superhuman will and energy in his effort to prevent the catastrophe which he had foreseen and to save the nation from that hour of complete overthrow and shame. By placing responsibility for the loss of the world war on the shoulders of Ludendorff, they took away the weapon of moral right from the only adversary dangerous enough to be likely to succeed in bringing the betrayers of the Fatherland to Justice.

All this was inspired by the principle—which is quite true within itself—that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods.

It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.

— Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, vol. I, ch. X[1]
According to Hitler, the "big lie" was a propaganda technique typically used by Jewish Marxists.

My apologies for the lengthy post ET but I think the passage quoted from Hitler's autobiography sheds some light on why Trump's usage of lies is proving an effective strategy in some quarters.


kneedtwoplease 68M
1189 posts
2/20/2019 3:28 pm

"Fake Noose", "This is America in 2019"


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
2/20/2019 3:42 pm

    Quoting sewg1941:
    Some idiots need to choke on the truth before they'll accept it. So they deserve to lose money to the likes of Trump. I don't feel sorry for them one little bit. Trump is just like any other bible thumper on TV who wrings the last pennies out of an old lady's purse when she's starving to begin with. No remorse, no nothing... they are useless human beings who contribute nothing but grief ... but not for me... I do NOT feel sorry for those in the USA... they should know better... they don't have the excuse that they live in a 3rd world country. Idiots... plain idiots!! They probably have never read anything but the Bible...sheesh!!!

I agree..

WE all bear pain and suffering....In a way it's relative..but also it's not. Relative only from an outside perspective not from the inside.

Those in third world countries, from the outside, get the worst of it... but from the inside get the better of it. Suffering when you have to suffer is a lot different than suffering when you believe you don't have to.

We are idiots....from the inside we get to blame our suffering on someone else.. we get to pass our suffering on to others. We get to commiserate with other victims...we get to intensify it...From the inside, we are are mess.. responsible for our own suffering... There are no decisions to be made for self chosen victims. Any decision for us to eliminate our suffering...Does no such thing....Any decision, bears it own responsibility.. we get what we deserve.

I don't want to talk about who suffers more and who suffers less...because "more or less" we all suffer. Victims of circumstances or victims of our own devices.

People in third world countries.. don't have the time to think about it.. They suffer in silence
US idiots.. got the time think about.. And I have no doubt.. that focusing about our own pain.... only makes it worse.
There is a cure... and an irony.. Thinking about the real suffering of others, ends our own suffering.


lilium6 74F
4498 posts
2/20/2019 7:32 pm

'lilium, I am shocked and sad you had to quote hitler to trash trump and his supporters' - hiramhank

Not so much 'trashing' as trying to understand the mindset/machinations behind the phenomenon of fake news/propaganda and the seemingly hypnotic effect on those susceptible.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
2/21/2019 6:05 am

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Only those who choose to be hypnotized.... can be hypnotized.


kneedtwoplease 68M
1189 posts
2/21/2019 9:20 am

ET, are you so dense, or blinded by TDS or out of touch these quotes don't ring with relevance to both fake news, and the smollett debacle being a symptom of the whole tRump resistance sickness


TxJW6 81M

2/23/2019 12:29 am

Read your Bible daily & you will become brainwashed into believing in fantasy.
Similar to hearing Trumps fake news repeated daily.

Hey it was not I who brought (BELIEF) into it.
But it does require one to be gullible and to have a wild imagination.
Dang me.
Party On!