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starwomyn 70F
5508 posts
7/26/2019 9:28 am

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7/27/2019 8:54 pm

Much Ado About JUPITER &SATURN too

I took an interest in Astrology as a and that interest has grown with time. So when herself starts hopping up and down while she declares the definition of Jupiter. Que Sera Sera! Opinions are like Uranus - Everyone has it in their charts or at least with modern charts. Traditional Astrology doesn't recognize Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, Chiron or any recently discovered planets.

I like simplicity so traditional Horary Astrology works for me.

Jupiter in the Natal Chart indicates where a person's luck is while Saturn in a person's Natal Chart indicates the challenges.

I have the Libra Sun, Mercury, Saturn, Jupiter, and Neptune in the Third House. The third house is Communications. It is a place where I shine but it is also where I am challenged. I do well with the written word but get lost in the conversation with a group. I was born with a hearing disability. Nevertheless, Saturn is an exalted planet in Libra so I can deal with it.

Donald Trump has Mercury, Saturn, and Venus in the Eleventh House. Mercury is communications, Saturn is the Challenge, and Venus is Women. The Eleventh House is Friends, Organizations, and the Community. He is so fast-talking that he is often misunderstood. People will only hear part of what he says, focus on that, twist it into something negative that suits their own purpose. My Libra Saturn in the third house of communication has taught me how to listen carefully and get the rest of the . That is where Libra Sun and Libra Jupiter allows me to Shine.

Trump does well with wives but not so well with Mistresses. He would be better off having more that one wife who would stay within his program.

Libra JUPITER (Drumroll for Lulu) and Neptune sit in the 2nd House of !!!! Luck and Imagination bring Fortunes. Both planets are in retrograde which indicates that he loses fortunes but gets them back. Some say that Retrogrades indicate past lives or at least genetic memories. Jupiter and Neptune indicate that he might have been a wizard who had to stay in the closet to appease the clergy while he does magick for royalty. Pluto and Mars in the th House indicate that he may be doing a bit more hoodoo than most people suspect.



Abracadabra


starwomyn 70F
8871 posts
7/26/2019 9:31 am

and the Orange King chants "Abracadabra Zippity Zap! Herself with the skeptical Uranus is now a frog" Poof!!!!

Abracadabra


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
7/26/2019 10:28 am

    Quoting starwomyn:
    and the Orange King chants "Abracadabra Zippity Zap! Herself with the skeptical Uranus is now a frog" Poof!!!!
Sure, you go ahead and repeat your fairy-tale words , it changes absolutely nothing.......Skepticism is what rational, intelligent people do.......repeating woo-woo incantations is what people do whose lack of appreciation for the real world causes a gaping hole in their lives and instead of looking inside for answers, they start flying around looking for shiny objects to line their nests.....oh look over there, an incantation......it must be magic....and look, if I spell it Magick and call up Wizards and add some cool sounding nonsense like Abracadabra Zippity Zap it shines even brighter......look at all my shiny objects......


MrsJoe 76F
17370 posts
7/26/2019 1:31 pm

Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs and to ridicule others for theirs shows a lot of intolerance, which liberals want to tout as one of their good traits.

Be a prism, spreading God's light and love, not a mirror reflecting the world's hatred.


starwomyn 70F
8871 posts
7/26/2019 3:09 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    Sure, you go ahead and repeat your fairy-tale words , it changes absolutely nothing.......Skepticism is what rational, intelligent people do.......repeating woo-woo incantations is what people do whose lack of appreciation for the real world causes a gaping hole in their lives and instead of looking inside for answers, they start flying around looking for shiny objects to line their nests.....oh look over there, an incantation......it must be magic....and look, if I spell it Magick and call up Wizards and add some cool sounding nonsense like Abracadabra Zippity Zap it shines even brighter......look at all my shiny objects......
Magick can be simply affirmations and visualizations that somehow manage to manifest into reality. Poetry can be a form of affirmations. Lighting a candle to honor a loved one can be a visualization. I wear my late husband's dragon ring wrapped around a malachite heart-shaped stone to symbolize love. I have an herb garden. The herbs rosemary and lavender are calming. I grow pumpkins and sunflowers because they generate joy. It may be that these things strengthen the subconscious or perhaps it's magick. Tomato or to"mah"to, it doesn't matter. I have a "mater" plant growing that doesn't care what I call it. It will bear fruit all the same. So does the Orange King actually turn herself into a frog with his chants? Either way, it"s a funny visualization that generates laughter and that is magickal.

Abracadabra


Katie_au_lait 78F
7026 posts
7/27/2019 12:49 am

But...you obviously believe it's perfectly okay to be intolerant towards liberals.

Is that because you think liberalism is anti-American... or anti-Christian?

Why doesn't the stealing and imprisoning of children in concentration camps bother your conscience?
Don't give me the crap about "not agreeing with everything trump does" that's a cop out.
You are party to it... and giving your approval... every time you defend ANY of your present government's policies.


starwomyn 70F
8871 posts
7/27/2019 1:27 pm

    Quoting Katie_au_lait:
    But...you obviously believe it's perfectly okay to be intolerant towards liberals.

    Is that because you think liberalism is anti-American... or anti-Christian?

    Why doesn't the stealing and imprisoning of children in concentration camps bother your conscience?
    Don't give me the crap about "not agreeing with everything trump does" that's a cop out.
    You are party to it... and giving your approval... every time you defend ANY of your present government's policies.

The funny thing is that when I was a moderate liberal, I managed to maintain a friendship with conservatives. That didn't happen when I switched to moderate conservative.

This idea that Trump is stealing and imprisoning children in concentration camps is propaganda. People who come into the USA illegally are detained. This also happens to USA citizens who go into other countries illegally. I wouldn't even attempt to walk into Canada or Mexico without a passport. There was a time when all I needed was an identification but that is not the reality today.

Have you ever lived in a community with a large population of illegals and had to deal with the crime that goes with it? I remember when my boys could not even play at the park because of potential gang violence. I also had to deal with being burglarized and graffiti. Frequently, it's the anchor babies that become the gangsters. The MS-13 sneak-ins are brutal. There are also problems with drug smuggling and human trafficking including children.

When illegals bring in children, the children may be separated and placed in facilities more suitable for children. They are eventually placed with relatives or reunited with their parents. The same thing happens when USA parents are incarcerated, this happens as well. When a parent breaks the law, unfortunately, there are consequences for the children. It's better a group home than to have them running the streets.

I don't have to apologize because Trump wants to secure the borders. The reason detention centers are so overcrowded is that they are overwhelmed with an influx of illegals or people claiming refugee status. Still, these people are fed, clothed, sheltered, given medical treatment and legal resources. They are usually released in a few weeks, either in the United States or deported. There are some who end up incarcerated because of warrants due to crimes they committed when they were here illegally before.

Abracadabra