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starwomyn 70F
5429 posts
5/13/2006 1:24 am

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5/14/2006 8:42 pm

Climbing Out of Depression

Climbing out of a severe depression when life on life's terms suck swampwater can be simple as remembering it could have been worse. Depression feels like floating
around in a terrible void and unable to gain your footing. However, once the footing is gained it is possible to begin the journey of climbing back out again.

That foothold might be as simple as the thought that it might have been worse. The next step to begin to count blessings which gives the strength to finally crawl out of that depression and create better circumstances. It is not easy but it is doable.



Abracadabra


simplelady3 73F

5/13/2006 3:09 am

star, I was there before but I tried my very best to fight with it. Now I can tell you, I feel better although sometimes it happens. I wish you the best my friend.


Lexxie 68F

5/13/2006 6:23 am

Starwomyn,
Depression is still something that haunts me from to time.
But as you said it is doable, it is hard, but you can do it.
God Bless You,
Hugs and Smiles~Pam

Happy Mothers Day

and ~Pam & Sunshine

Pain & suffering are inevititable, but misery is optional.


dlm42 81M

5/13/2006 8:44 am

Star, According to statistics that I have heard, 32% of alcoholics have a primary diagnoses of depression. That means that depression precedes and supercedes the alcoholism. I for one have dealt with depression during periods of my life.

What is the cause for depression? For one there is situational and biochemical causes. Situational will pass but biochemical will not without chemical treatment.

Chronic depression can fit in the second above. However there is another reason for alcoholics in my observation. That is the victim mentality that many if not most alcoholics embrace. This is not addressed in AA. In fact it is supported even by the AA literature and the things that we here at meetings. We are told to turn our life over to the care of a higher power...in other words relinquish control over our lives...That feeds the victim orientation. It is a damned depressing thing to think that our lives our none of our business.

If we are to feel renewed hope then we must have a vision that a cause for hope is attainable.


starwomyn 70F
8876 posts
5/13/2006 12:33 pm

    Quoting dlm42:
    Star, According to statistics that I have heard, 32% of alcoholics have a primary diagnoses of depression. That means that depression precedes and supercedes the alcoholism. I for one have dealt with depression during periods of my life.

    What is the cause for depression? For one there is situational and biochemical causes. Situational will pass but biochemical will not without chemical treatment.

    Chronic depression can fit in the second above. However there is another reason for alcoholics in my observation. That is the victim mentality that many if not most alcoholics embrace. This is not addressed in AA. In fact it is supported even by the AA literature and the things that we here at meetings. We are told to turn our life over to the care of a higher power...in other words relinquish control over our lives...That feeds the victim orientation. It is a damned depressing thing to think that our lives our none of our business.

    If we are to feel renewed hope then we must have a vision that a cause for hope is attainable.
Dim - I respectfully disagree with your assessment that A.A. promotes the victim mentality by encouraging Alcoholics to turn their lives over to the care a Higher Power.

The Goal of the Twelve Steps is to realize that Alcohol is stronger than we are and to find something Stonger to kick John BarleyCorn's butt.

It is about learning to make decisions that don't cause unmanagability in our lives. It is also about taking responsibility for our own screw-ups instead of blaming somebody else.

When we blame somebody else, we are giving them power. In the past few years, I've had some painful situations in life. I am very gunshy about getting back into the mainstream of life. I can find the solution in the 12 Steps. Do I have a character defect that created the situation. Maybe it's past life Karma. How can I fix it. Right now, my solution is to throw myself into 12 Step Work.

Sometimes Medication is the solution. Other times, it covers up the root problems. I don't like the side effects of anti-depressants so I'll eat more blueberries, fix the character defect and make lifestyle changes.

Abracadabra


dlm42 81M

5/13/2006 4:34 pm

Star,

You must be working a different program then the one that I work. The program of AA that I have known and practiced for years does not acknowledge that I have the means to fix any character defects. Just another example of the victim orientation that AA promotes.


starwomyn 70F
8876 posts
5/13/2006 5:37 pm

    Quoting dlm42:
    Star,

    You must be working a different program then the one that I work. The program of AA that I have known and practiced for years does not acknowledge that I have the means to fix any character defects. Just another example of the victim orientation that AA promotes.
Darlin - You and I must be working the same program and operating under different mindsets. Step Seven is a means of removing Character Defects. The Amends Step - Look it up in the dictionary. It's doesn't mean grovelling and saying I'm sorry. It can mean setting boundries and giving a swift kick in the butt to someone who doesn't respect them

Abracadabra