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ThunderBirdWoman 67F
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4/25/2008 11:16 am

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Change Doesn't Come by Electing a President

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ThunderBirdWoman 67F

4/25/2008 3:01 pm

Your welcome! I think that we need to look at the whole picture, not just a part of it, if we want to have any change. We the people are the one's who can make that change by doing this, so that we are more knowledgable of just who we are putting there in those position's.


TheLuckyLady 81F

4/25/2008 8:57 pm

Doesn't matter who you vote for----they are all controlled by a very small group---a shadow government----that is bringing about all we see today. They plan changes ninety-nine percent of the population would never think about-----like reducing the population of the world by billions.....
These people meet yearly, sometimes more often, and have even joined our boy in the White House.....and speaking of the WH, no one gets there without their approval.

Check out "Georgia Guidestones" and the Bildenberg group---may have misspelled that....but it will give you chills. Greed, unmitigated greed can enslave the world....and the plans are laid, enacted, and well on the path to accomplishment....and everyone we elect has been bought and paid for by this group....to do their will.

Too far out to believe. Tell me that in 3 or 4 years. I'll take all bets on it.

The CHANGE we need is for every person to become informed and active in politics....and refuse to surrender our country to the whims and desires of the wealthiest, most immoral people in the world.

My mother, adept in politics, told me 60 years ago that the world was controlled by 6 families....and predicted what is occurring today....one world, obliteration of borders between countries--ie US, Mexico, Canada.

I keep saying to myself that God is in charge....wonder where He vacations.....but we are responsible for what has occurred....too preoccupied with "necessities" to remember what we have fought for---freedom.


ThunderBirdWoman 67F

4/25/2008 9:19 pm

LadyLuck I've read a few thing's about this also what you have mentioned, although nothing I have read yet has been in very much debth about it. I would like to know more about this, though. Thank you for commenting here on my post.


missioncontrol 76F

4/25/2008 10:45 pm

LadyLucky
I sure do agree with you...but some of these people can't see what really has been going on....like those 6 very wealthy families is now almost 100.
Thanks for telling it like it is.


I'm looking to the future and it's out of sight,
only in the end shall I take flight.


TheLuckyLady 81F

4/26/2008 9:44 am

You can go to a site called prisonplanet---don't know exact name, but search---lots of info, dvds, etc. that will blow your mind. And, as we have seen the last few years, they are not hiding anymore. Their actions are becoming overt---look at the papers and news---the price of rice, gas, etc.---the time is now----and most just sit on their fat ----- and do nothing. We are being told millions will die of starvation----heard it on a public broadcast yesterday. What can we do? TELL OTHERS AND VOTE(for the little that it can do)----AND ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO THE SAME. I truly believe it will require a revolution because this has gone so far. Events are afoot that most would never believe.


ThunderBirdWoman 67F

4/30/2008 2:05 pm

Thank you for your input TheLuckyLady! I have spent a few day's now in looking up those places you mentioned abouve on the net. I see now what is really happening. Thank's for helping me to open up my eye's to this. You are right, for the most part it has gotten too far to make any matter's of who we vote for, as "they" are already in place, and ready to make the next step toward's total control.


stilllikearock
(Will )
70M

4/30/2008 3:13 pm

You guys have no idea how far gone it is, check this out...copy and paste this address to your browser...

http://seniorfriendfinder.com=nxcoPn9ucEo&feature=related

Say "Good Bye" to the United States and "Hello" to the North American Union. Which is what NAFTA was set up to accomplish. Now phase two of it is in the wings as Bush shipwrecks the US greenback and the US economy so that they might be replaced by the "AMERO" and the new country that has been planned for sometime. Here is another good link.....http://seniorfriendfinder.com=wJBZSzIh5Fo&NR=1

and yet another

http://seniorfriendfinder.com

there is nothing anyone can do to stop it...the global takeover has been in the works for more than a century. That is why TheLuckyLady's mother knew all about it 60 years ago.


stilllikearock
(Will )
70M

5/1/2008 4:52 am

Well since SFF removed the web addersses in my last comment, I'll copy and paste some of the stuff here. If you will type "Amero" into a yahoo search you'll find hundreds of pages refering to the new money on the way.....here's a sample page from...h...t..t.p://....amerocurrency dotcom/......................

Amero Currency: One Union Under God? With Liberty?

This site is intended to make United States citizens aware of the advancement of the agenda to launch
the nations of North America, including the U.S., into a continental union similar to the European Union.

The international work-in-progress, named the "Security and Prosperity Partnership Of North America
(SPP)," has a broad scope. The program goal, according to a release by the White House Office of the
Press Secretary, is"To enhance the competitive position of North American industries in the global
marketplace and to provide greater economic opportunity for all of our societies, while maintaining high
standards of health and safety for our people, the United States, Mexico, and Canada will work together,
and in consultation with stakeholders, to:"
Improve Productivity

Reduce the Costs of Trade

Enhance the Quality of Life

Initially, these goals sound reasonable. However, upon inspection and understanding of the background
of the movement, it becomes clear that, once fully implemented, the newly formed organization will usurp
authority of the U.S., and redistribute power and wealth among the three North American nations.

The brain trusts behind the philosophies that laid the groundwork for the program, in its current and
future forms, elaborate a broader view of economics and "sovereignty" that also redistribute economic
and legislative powers.

According to the web site of the U.S. Senate, Robert Pastor--a former U.S. National Security Council
director--discussing the SPP, testified:
NAFTA has failed to create a partnership because North American governments have not changed
the way they deal with one another. Dual bilateralism, driven by U.S. power, continue to govern and
irritate. Adding a third party to bilateral disputes vastly increases the chance that rules, not power,
will resolve problems.

This trilateral approach should be institutionalized in a new North American Advisory Council.
Unlike the sprawling and intrusive European Commission, the Commission or Council should be
lean, independent, and advisory, composed of 15 distinguished individuals, 5 from each nation. Its
principal purpose should be to prepare a North American agenda for leaders to consider at
biannual summits and to monitor the implementation of the resulting agreements. It should be an
advisor to the three leaders but also a public voice and symbol of North America. It should evaluate
ways to facilitate economic integration, producing specific proposals on continental issues such as
harmonizing environmental and labor standards and forging a competition policy.

The U.S. Congress should also merge the U.S.-Mexican and U.S.-Canadian interparliamentary
groups into a single “North American Parliamentary Group.”
Pastor goes further, suggesting (As the SPP defines) less emphasis on national border security:
"At the same time, our Task Force recommends that all three governments define and defend a
continental perimeter."
He also goes so far as to define:
"The North American Council should develop an integrated continental plan for transportation and
infrastructure that includes new North American highways and high-speed rail corridors. The
United States and Canada should each develop national standards on weight, safety, and
configuration of trucking and then negotiate with Mexico to establish a single set of standards."
Concluding his "Testimony Invited by the Subcommittee on the Western Hemisphere U.S. Senate Foreign
Relations Committee," Pastor states:
"The time has come for us to define a true North American Community. Our security and prosperity
depend on it."
From the mindsets documented above, and more data available through this site, emerges the concept
of the "Amero," an international currency whereby the American monetary system and our treasury
system become homogeneous with those of Mexico and Canada.

It is critical to note, the information presented on this site is not conspiracy theory, shock journalism or
speculation. The SPP is an international work-in-progress that the U.S. State Department and
Department of Commerce have embarked on without the consent or oversight of the U.S. Senate or
Congress.

Speculation and subjectivity related to the facts presented will be restricted to the associated blog, on
this site. Feedback is welcome and encouraged.

The citizens of the United States must awaken to the impending reality that our sovereign nation is being
assimilated by an unconstitutional union--a union with two socialist nations. As the data converge, many
unexplained phenomenon, such as the mystery of unenforced immigration laws and the "Trans-Texas"
international corridor, will illuminate.
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catfisf 71M

5/1/2008 5:17 pm

just look up the " tri-lateral agreement"...it's not just the north american continent...it's global.........democracy is a commonly "flinged" terminology for your governmental structure...NOT!!!...by the constitution, we are a REPUBLIC!!!...government starts at the lowest level---the individual...not at the federal guardians level...unlike ThunderBirdWoman, i say very little but but insist you invesitgate these facts...


ThunderBirdWoman 67F

5/2/2008 2:35 pm

That's probably because Congress and the Senate automatically give him a raise too, in the process to keep him quiet. Who know's these day's, as they don't like to tell us much about what they are doing, so that we won't be able to tell them "No, we don't want that!" Look at all the going on behind closed doors these day's, and the secrecy.


ThunderBirdWoman 67F

5/3/2008 2:42 pm

I have alway's been an independant voter, and I have never let them push me into registering as one of the 2 main parties to vote in the primary election's. I will vote for whoever I think will do the best job for our citzen's, not for the illegal's and what financial gain for the certain parties pockets!


catfisf 71M

5/5/2008 12:58 am

I believe it was thomas jefferson that stated "Revolution and change is healthy for a nation and it's people"...


ThunderBirdWoman 67F

5/5/2008 6:46 am

Yes, and both he and John Adam's said that if we ever let go, that this would happen in what we are seeing happen today!


catfisf 71M

5/5/2008 11:27 am

Very true... Americans have become a lazy lot...Look at the percentage of registered voters that actually vote..less than 35%...Americans are so involved with their personal pursuits that they CHOOSE to leave there futures in the hands of big business and power hungry politicians...Life is way to comfortable in the U.S. to the point that the majority of the population ignores anything that may have a serious impact on them especially, drastic decision making in the congress and senate to pad their pockets and attempt to place themselve above the laws of the land..


ThunderBirdWoman 67F

6/2/2008 2:19 pm

Well, it is a shame that some people don't care enough about this country and how it is run, to want to take the time to go vote. The day that we start letting the government decide who "they" will be placing in the top seat's, will be a day for very great sadness, as I am sure many thing's will then start taking place that none of us as citizen's will be wanting to see happen at all!