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jiminycricket1 74M
5510 posts
11/3/2018 7:52 am
Do you prefer the Truth or the LIE


I don't want to condemn anybody for their belief.. I don't want to even be specific about which Party I'm talking... This idea transcends Party politics..

So my question is...... Which would You prefer to believe?

The Truth that will hurt YOU?
or
The Lie that will help YOU.?.

Each of us needs to understand their answer to this question, and accept whatever answer that is. IT is not an easy question!
Believe me, it's not a right or wrong answer.. It's a moral answer
It's not about which Party you belong to...
It's about your ability to believe what you want to believe.. or to believe what you have to believe.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
11/3/2018 8:05 am

Well. I had to do some soul searching to decide my answer... as I have been on both sides of that bridge.

Most people convince themselves that what they want to believe is NOT a LIE.. I know I have..
But those that ever realize.... what they think they wanted is not what they really wanted.. Come to understand.. It was Lie and they believe it, because they wanted to.
Many NEVER make that realization..

My old age.. has taught me the Truth can never hurt as bad as a Lie.... IF you misinterpret a Lie as the truth. That's me....for others who never think about it, never think that what they want could be Lie. Then go for it. AS it will NEVER become a LIE.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
11/3/2018 10:01 am

Just this week I have been having this conversation with different groups of people. It came up because of a tragedy that occurred. A young family man was walking home in the early hours of a Sunday morning and was the victim of a hit and run. He was badly hurt and lay in the cold and rain in agony for several hours.

In a small community, this is especially horrific. I was talking with a group of counsellors........trying to understand the Psychology of it...One of them started talking about the difference between a person with principles and one without. He said that principles are a set of rules that we have thought out and decided on. There are many possible factors that influence these principles, like up-bringing, education, religion. etc, but the difference between a principled and unprincipled person is self-examination. A person who lacks the habit of self-examination hasn't the awareness or self-knowledge to anticipate actual situations they may encounter and what the principled response would be and carry it out instead of just reacting with the reptilian brain.


LeafReport 73M

11/3/2018 11:14 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    Just this week I have been having this conversation with different groups of people. It came up because of a tragedy that occurred. A young family man was walking home in the early hours of a Sunday morning and was the victim of a hit and run. He was badly hurt and lay in the cold and rain in agony for several hours.

    In a small community, this is especially horrific. I was talking with a group of counsellors........trying to understand the Psychology of it...One of them started talking about the difference between a person with principles and one without. He said that principles are a set of rules that we have thought out and decided on. There are many possible factors that influence these principles, like up-bringing, education, religion. etc, but the difference between a principled and unprincipled person is self-examination. A person who lacks the habit of self-examination hasn't the awareness or self-knowledge to anticipate actual situations they may encounter and what the principled response would be and carry it out instead of just reacting with the reptilian brain.


This is one of the most intelligent commentaries I've encountered here. It's always an odd sort of thing that shines a light on something important. It happens to me from time to time. Every time it just blows me away.


sewg1941 82F

11/3/2018 11:38 am

Great blog Jiminy...

Me... I'm a truth no matter what person...I always want to know what I'm dealing with. No matter how much the truth hurts it's better than a lie!


LeafReport 73M

11/3/2018 12:20 pm

Hi Cricket. There are a precious few sermons that I value greatly. It is very rare that I don't connect in a deep way to sermons delivered by ministers of my particular faith. Outside my faith, or more specifically my particular denomination, the record is mostly hit or miss. It's like that because I listen to thinking that strays from what I've learned previously. Therefore, messages from others lack the credibility I instinctively seek. Nevertheless, there are a few sermons that I credit for making a profound, and lasting, impact on my life. I'll share two of those here.

The first one began with my minister leaving the area around the altar and walking down to the front of the congregation. He put his hand around his mouth as if he was preparing to shout out so everyone could hear, even from great distances. Just for a moment I thought about my mother that used to stand on the front porch and call out for all of us kids to come home. Everyone's mother seemed to do the same thing. She eventually grew tired of that and we were all told that when we heard her honk the horn 3 times we had 5 minutes to return home. The older we got the farther away we strayed and it was far more effective. We learned to listen for the horn when we likely tuned out everything else that was said. But the minister didn't shout, he whispered....JEREMIAH....JEREMIAH....JEREMIAH. God told Jeremiah "To get yourself ready" . It was Jeremiah's job to warn of the sins of the people and the coming consequences of them. It had a profound impact on me and I've sought ever since to listen to the whispers of the Almighty God...even when surrounded by incredible noise.

The second sermon another minister began his sermon by saying "I am rich". It wasn't what I expected from one of the most humble men I've ever met. I learned to "see" invisible people from that man. He had a profound impact on me too. He meant he was rich for coming to 'know' God intimately. From that I've sought to look for God in all my endeavors. When you listening closely enough, and you look long enough you can always find direction, blessing and ways to serve even more.

So the answer to the question is always the truth that may hurt me. But I'm prepared to be be healed by who I know will help me.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
11/3/2018 5:32 pm

    Quoting sewg1941:
    Great blog Jiminy...

    Me... I'm a truth no matter what person...I always want to know what I'm dealing with. No matter how much the truth hurts it's better than a lie!
one of the best ways to understand it....Is you HAVE to question your belief that you thought was true, and that questioning alone makes it a lie.

The best example.. is in relationships...LOVE or friendship for example..What you believe is TRUE, until you question it.. to determine if what you believed was true..
No matter what.. if you question it.. after the fact.. then you lied to yourself. because you wanted to.... either way.... for or against...
We jump the gun..

So if you're in LOVE and IT"S TRUE, You CAN"T fall out of love.. if you just want to be in LOVE.. Then it ALMOST certain you'll fall out of it.

It's not just relationships..... that's just an example.. that virtually everyone has experience.. It about ..What is the Truth? A lie can be the truth.. if you want it bad enough..... that is until you don't want it anymore..


Rentier2 79M
950 posts
11/3/2018 10:03 pm

Depends.

If the question is 'do these pants make my azz look big' then I believe a lie is the way to go.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
11/4/2018 6:58 am

    Quoting Rentier2:
    Depends.

    If the question is 'do these pants make my azz look big' then I believe a lie is the way to go.
Yes,, sometimes the truth hurts...and it's better to lie.. Sometimes it's better to deflect the question, Never give a direct answer... it works in Washington....., and as long you are not talking about trying to "climb" a "cherry" tree, and you are only going to get cut down.. if you tell the truth.........It will work for bedroom politics, if you don't think you're getting to "do it" with the politics at a "kitchen table".

But you're the one that has to Lie....THEY are the one's that has to believe the lie.

But the truth is... if you got to lie.....You got to "sleep" with that decision!
And Either way ...someone is going to have to be a "big azz"

My view is the decision doesn't matter either way... Because, If THEY have to ask the question...Either answer, means you are not getting "screwed".. So you might as well, tell the truth.. But there is a caveat to that.....Only while you're getting screwed.... DO YOU LIE..... I know for a fact THEY do it....So what's good for the GOOSE is good for the "Old Gandy".......If it good for THEM.. It's good for me.. Even if it's a lie...LOL

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PS....I "LMAO" writing this... You got to think both sexually and politically to get my meaning. About the Truth and The LIE.. Both sex and politics, for me, are the funniest things..and more serious people want to make them.. the funnier they are.