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jiminycricket1 68M
3283 posts
11/13/2018 4:14 am
What is Normalcy?


From an individual standpoint...we each think of ourselves as normal
From a group standpoint....birds of a feather stick together. only to maintain it's normalcy.

There's an appearance in that ideology that specifics matter.. In reality they don't..They are predetermined by both a individual outlook and the joined group outlook. This outlook is not generated by the ideology but by the outlook. The outlook being generated by how we live our daily lives, how we see others and how we view our country and the planet....How we believe that to be normal.

Yet we are all different, and in so being.. we are different in what is Normalcy... We search for what is Normal, instead of what is common.. that search separates the normal from the abnormal.. Always with each individual on the side of their own normalcy.

It's virtually impossible for two different views of normalcy.. to arrive at an agreement. when that overwhelms the commonality

That outlook is best for me to describe metaphorically... things like....
Stopping to smell the roses
the glass have empty. or the glass half full
Hate is the cargo of an empty vessel
The world is a "bad" oyster
You can't "make" a friend"
I deserve better than that
The only thing to fear... is fear itself
my country, My Country, MY COUNTRY.

I challenge people to see how their own lives, attitudes and outlooks reflect in their political ideology
I challenge people.. to see what is their normalcy.. and to see how it fits with other birds, and how the other birds make them fit in their flock of belonging and normalcy


jiminycricket1 68M
9812 posts
11/13/2018 4:36 am

So what is my normalcy...
Well first.. I question everything, the most basic stuff people "agree" upon.. Then I even go as far as questioning their agreement .. My conclusion is always the same....Truth is only an agreement
I believe in duality.. their is no REAL separation between things such as.. good and evil, or love and hate...They are two sides of the SAME coin.... Again..They are a truth by agreement
So.. my normal.. is that truth can't be proven. And questioning can only prove a LIE....The Lie.. That needs no agreement.
So politically what am I.....? I certainly don't have a side and cannot join a flock....In every case my questioning can only prove the LIE.. and whatever is left over could be the truth.


jiminycricket1 68M
9812 posts
11/13/2018 5:29 am

The normalcy of some others is to prove the truth....I can't do that.
What I write politically here.. is NEVER about what is the Truth...It is always about my discovery of the lies, and the explanation of both.... what is the Lie?.. and like THIS blog....Why people tell the Lie and why people agree to the lie....
I always wonder why people can't see it.. the obvious to me.. I have spent my entire live, diagnosing the LIE.. I only see lies, and the truth is always a given...I NEVER think about proving... What is the Truth?

The TRUTH, well.. that takes agreement.. I'll leave that up to you.
And I will agree to ANYTHING..That's not a LIE.


jiminycricket1 68M
9812 posts
11/13/2018 6:16 am

The greatest lie politically....?
No matter what side your on.. There is a basic truth, a truthful premise..
The basic truth, always seems to morph itself into some sort of other Lie
What happens.. there is no separation between... what could be the truth and what is the Lie
So people choose one or the other..The part that is the truth, makes it the whole truth.. Or the part that is the lie, makes it the whole Lie..Both sides do it.
And that in itself...... is the greatest LIE

I know, I pick on a couple of things.. Republicans and Trump..
Because Republicans and their purposeful lack of division and the normalcy that brings.......creates the greatest division of all.
Because with Trump.. I never have seen a basic truth.. It's a constant flow of LIES..... an impossibility for any agreed truth.
Of course....I have called myself a truth seeker...That really a misnomer.. I should call myself and Lie Seeker.. and whatever is leftover is the truth.......
With Trump there is NOTHING.. left over..

So if you want to talk about what is the truth.....You can have my agreement
and If I want to talk about what is the LIE... I DON'T NEED YOUR AGREEMENT.


WellKnownAuthor 62M
341 posts
11/13/2018 6:54 am

What is Normalcy?

Since shortly after the arrival of the 1900's ,psychoanalysts world wide have been at odds in trying to find common ground and agreement as to what exactly is fully accepted Normality?

With so many separate views by so many world renowned psychologiists never reaching any kind of accepted agreement, I would venture to say there is no such thing as normal.

We are all different and thus with no two people being exactly alike,, it is
mathematically impossible to reach a set in stone conclusion.

With todays world evolving into so many different directions due to the technology of science and cultural interface due to geographical travel down to single digits in terms of hours, ever constant change has to occur each and every day.

Shortly after mankind discovered the abilities to speak, he also discovered and perfected the ability to Lie.

This in a selfish act of some kinds of personal gain which I will label as Greed.

Thus I wait for the discovery of a 100% perfected Lie Revealing Machine or else one that validates the truth! Either one with work great to untangle this messed up planet slowly spinning out of control.

Very nice blog kind sir.. Its been some 45 years since this type of subject matter was a small part of my life.


jiminycricket1 68M
9812 posts
11/13/2018 10:46 am

    Quoting WellKnownAuthor:
    What is Normalcy?

    Since shortly after the arrival of the 1900's ,psychoanalysts world wide have been at odds in trying to find common ground and agreement as to what exactly is fully accepted Normality?

    With so many separate views by so many world renowned psychologiists never reaching any kind of accepted agreement, I would venture to say there is no such thing as normal.

    We are all different and thus with no two people being exactly alike,, it is
    mathematically impossible to reach a set in stone conclusion.

    With todays world evolving into so many different directions due to the technology of science and cultural interface due to geographical travel down to single digits in terms of hours, ever constant change has to occur each and every day.

    Shortly after mankind discovered the abilities to speak, he also discovered and perfected the ability to Lie.

    This in a selfish act of some kinds of personal gain which I will label as Greed.

    Thus I wait for the discovery of a 100% perfected Lie Revealing Machine or else one that validates the truth! Either one with work great to untangle this messed up planet slowly spinning out of control.

    Very nice blog kind sir.. Its been some 45 years since this type of subject matter was a small part of my life.
There is no agreed truth in normalcy
As Truth can simply be defined as that which is not a LIE
Normalcy like political ideology, in it's group truth CAN NOT be agreed
So there is no commonality in normalcy, where normalcy requires commonality.
Commonality requires agreement...and truth requires agreement
So we come full circle.. there can be no agreed truth in normalcy

And ANYBODY who disagrees with me... isn't normal... LOL


sparkleflit 71F
3673 posts
11/13/2018 1:01 pm

Well, I can tell you that one of the few things I have been sure of for my whole life, since early childhood, is that I don't have any desire to be "Normal"......I have experienced living in many different cultural milieus with their own unique takes on normalcy, all with the unspoken pressures to be given the label of "Normal" for the rewards of feeling included. Mavericks never think in terms of Normal....It's just not what Mavericks do.....so if you long to be considered a Maverick by the brotherhood of Mavericks, you'll just discard any thoughts of normalcy.


WellKnownAuthor 62M
341 posts
11/13/2018 4:16 pm

Yep Mavericks like Bret and Bart who were a pair that would always beat a full house!!!

No wonder Samuel Clemmons loved riverboats.

As for show boats, visit the chat room in here. lol...


sewg1941 77F
526 posts
11/13/2018 4:35 pm

Not 'normal' here either... how boring ... what a waste of time and life! You just be you Jiminy...I wouldn't want you to try to be someone else, besides, it would fail. We 'mavericks' have to be the way we are, there is no other way that's worth living.


LeafReport 67M
440 posts
11/13/2018 5:11 pm

It's a really great question to ponder. I've thought about this a lot over the years as it applied to my own life. It's a great way to measure the blessings one has in life when also faced with some kind of challenge. For me normalcy is no unmanageable health concerns in the immediate family. It involves financial stability adequate to meet obligations with no out of the ordinary expenses looming. It's usually during non-stressful times of year, spring, summer and early fall. It felt normal on the job when comfortably inside periods of routine without the chaos of annual or semi-annual conferences or other high-pressure initiatives and also where the full staff was available and there were no headaches associated with personnel turnover. Car trouble is always a headache but if everything is reliable and just humming along and gas is affordable its enjoyable to wade through life and the things we all have to do.

Normalcy outside one's life is when there is no public policy concern that threatens your quality of life. No wars, stable markets, no scandals, and there is a sense everyone matters equally. It hasn't been normal for a long time in America now.

Normal is when you can take on something new, a hobby, volunteer work and not feel overwhelmed. Normal is when your biggest worry is running low on milk and eggs and its not raining and you don't need a jacket and there is no line at the checkout.

Normalcy is feel unburdened so that you can act positively and be extra polite and helpful to people, finding yourself able to count your blessings while knowing so many others aren't as lucky as you are.


LeafReport 67M
440 posts
11/13/2018 5:38 pm

It is interesting that some see normal as boring. I do grasp that sentiment and I don't like to be bored either. But I would characterize normalcy as being the great enabler to open the door to something exciting, or satisfying, or advancing toward some goal or a new discovery. Without normalcy all of those things become harder to see materialize. I've found that procrastination can often be a person's worst enemy. Problems just become bigger. It creates stress and frankly is drains the rewards felt when you finally do act. There is often no benefit to it. It doesn't work the other way at times...like if I wait until tomorrow the leaves blow into the neighbor's yard. The only problem is the wind shifts and then those same leaves are in your yard and the game starts in 15 minutes.

The smartest thing a man can do is when his significant other asks that something be done, drop whatever you are doing, regardless of the trouble it may cause and take care of it right then. It teaches you to just take care of it without having to be asked. You'll discover you have all the time you need. There's a great deal of satisfaction in that. Just be a Mr. Monk (TV personality) around the house. Your little kingdom will be a paradise when you come home and close the door behind you.

Finally...squish milk cartons when you put them in the trash...LOL


alpha2000 86M
1330 posts
11/13/2018 5:58 pm

Genuine Honesty


letchu1 59M
1 post
11/13/2018 7:59 pm

Oh My I am going to dare say If ya got the word and you don't respond as You Know they want you to, It is just going to cause a difficult Day. Not just for you but, weasel out of it somehow, safe the day before 4:20!!!


sparkleflit 71F
3673 posts
11/13/2018 8:48 pm

Seems like some of the respondents don't know the actual definition of the word "normal" .......Surely we can't begin to communicate unless we agree on a definition ......The dictionary definition is......."conforming to a standard; usual, typical, or expected"........


LeafReport 67M
440 posts
11/14/2018 1:46 am

    Quoting sewg1941:
    Not 'normal' here either... how boring ... what a waste of time and life! You just be you Jiminy...I wouldn't want you to try to be someone else, besides, it would fail. We 'mavericks' have to be the way we are, there is no other way that's worth living.
Someone once told me...'your mind just has to be free'. It was one of the greatest gifts of my life. It was said to me online and I never met the woman. But yes, if you are a maverick, you have to love every minute of that and I hope that you do.


jiminycricket1 68M
9812 posts
11/14/2018 2:12 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    Seems like some of the respondents don't know the actual definition of the word "normal" .......Surely we can't begin to communicate unless we agree on a definition ......The dictionary definition is......."conforming to a standard; usual, typical, or expected"........
let me pretend to be a child...and ask you the questions about the definition of normal..

what is normal
?

Normal is conforming to a standard

What is a standard?

A Standard is something usual

What is usual?

Well usual is something typical

What is typical?

Typical is what can be expected

How do we know what to expect?

well,, whatever is normal.

What is normal?


jiminycricket1 68M
9812 posts
11/14/2018 2:29 am

    Quoting sewg1941:
    Not 'normal' here either... how boring ... what a waste of time and life! You just be you Jiminy...I wouldn't want you to try to be someone else, besides, it would fail. We 'mavericks' have to be the way we are, there is no other way that's worth living.
Don't worry about me.. we think the same. I don't want to be "normal", but I just can't get away from the fact... I am normal.

So.. i'm still confused....

Is not wanting to be normal......NORMAL

Or is wanting to be normal.......NORMAL

So what's normal for me.. Is that normal for other people?

Can I pick and choose what that is.....Are somethings I do "normal, and other things not normal? Do the THINGS I do, define it... or the way I do it, define it..

Are we all... just normally abnormal?


jiminycricket1 68M
9812 posts
11/14/2018 3:07 am

    Quoting LeafReport:
    It is interesting that some see normal as boring. I do grasp that sentiment and I don't like to be bored either. But I would characterize normalcy as being the great enabler to open the door to something exciting, or satisfying, or advancing toward some goal or a new discovery. Without normalcy all of those things become harder to see materialize. I've found that procrastination can often be a person's worst enemy. Problems just become bigger. It creates stress and frankly is drains the rewards felt when you finally do act. There is often no benefit to it. It doesn't work the other way at times...like if I wait until tomorrow the leaves blow into the neighbor's yard. The only problem is the wind shifts and then those same leaves are in your yard and the game starts in 15 minutes.

    The smartest thing a man can do is when his significant other asks that something be done, drop whatever you are doing, regardless of the trouble it may cause and take care of it right then. It teaches you to just take care of it without having to be asked. You'll discover you have all the time you need. There's a great deal of satisfaction in that. Just be a Mr. Monk (TV personality) around the house. Your little kingdom will be a paradise when you come home and close the door behind you.

    Finally...squish milk cartons when you put them in the trash...LOL
One things for certain... YOU'RE NOT NORMAL... LOL

Okay... So I gather you think normal is a good thing...But how do you justify the fact.. YOU are NOT normal?

You may be "my brother".. But what you wrote is a "brother from a different mother planet!" LOL

Anyway my point is... I do it, and it pisses me off every time... I even think in terms of what is normal. As that requires my comparison to what other people do... And I do it everyday... How I sleep, what I do when i get up, what I eat, what I do throughout the day.... and what I DON'T do..
Just the idea of normalcy bothers me..It's ironic, superficial, and a justification of something, that needn't be justified.

It's kind of amazing... that I strive to be you, and you strive to be me?.. All in the name of "normalcy"

So the irony is
I don't want to be normal.....but I am
You like being normal.. but you aren't.


jiminycricket1 68M
9812 posts
11/14/2018 5:50 am

That kind of goes without saying....
I don't think we have a choice in whether or not honesty is normal..
Honesty is not a choice.. only dishonesty is the choice..
Honesty is a basic human characteristic....Dishonesty is NOT..

Dishonesty can be a choice not to be normal... but it goes way beyond that..
Dishonesty denies humanity.. for most it's totally a temporary condition, as they always return to honesty.

Unless you are Donald Trump...which would mean.. You're not only not being normal...You deny being HUMAN. He not only thinks he's 'above the laws"... he thinks he's above humanity.
WE talk of laws, that are agreed ideas of humanity...Law that abide by most of the Ten Commandments, laws about dishonesty, laws about what is victim. Laws about gender equality and all people's equality...laws about racism and hate...
People accuse Donald Trump of breaking the laws...
You can't break a law unless you believe in the law.. WE agree that crazy people can't break a laws they have no ability to understand.. People accuse Trump of being a racist.. he's not a racist... Unless you think of him as a racist toward the HUMAN RACE....There are no victims, because of Trump, as the sheep aren't a victim of the herder...
He just thinks he's above the humanity of it all..


bob77O21__ 75M
8029 posts
11/14/2018 7:19 am

"One things for certain... YOU'RE NOT NORMAL... LOL"

Bingo!


jiminycricket1 68M
9812 posts
11/14/2018 9:34 am

    Quoting bob77O21__:
    "One things for certain... YOU'RE NOT NORMAL... LOL"

    Bingo!
I know this is going to be confusing ..Bob.

But I can't quite grasp..That sometimes.. I don't know what I know.. and other times.. I know what I don't know.
Like this blog is about the fact.. I don't know what the heck is normalcy is, but it seems.. You do.. and what I know.. about what I don't know.. I don't know

Are you confused yet.. Bob?

People give examples...They think expresses a different idea...

But Bob I began writing blog on an idea. I found that idea awful hard to express, spent time writing after writing trying to make a point.

Thank you Bob...I couldn't have made the point a better.. than your example..
BINGO!


LeafReport 67M
440 posts
11/14/2018 9:52 am

    Quoting bob77O21__:
    "One things for certain... YOU'RE NOT NORMAL... LOL"

    Bingo!
Hi Bob...Hair is normal...no hair is BALD.


Rocketship 74F
15013 posts
11/14/2018 8:19 pm

What an interesting question!!

I think each of us usually thinks we're 'normal' and often can't understand why others think the way they do.

Normality (behavior) ... Normal is also used to describe individual behaviour that conforms to the most common behaviour in society (known as conformity). Definitions of normality vary by person, time, place, and situation – it changes along with changing societal standards and norms.


jiminycricket1 68M
9812 posts
11/15/2018 5:46 am

    Quoting Rocketship:
    What an interesting question!!

    I think each of us usually thinks we're 'normal' and often can't understand why others think the way they do.

    Normality (behavior) ... Normal is also used to describe individual behaviour that conforms to the most common behaviour in society (known as conformity). Definitions of normality vary by person, time, place, and situation – it changes along with changing societal standards and norms.

Yes.. to the definition of normality (behavior)

"Definitions of normality vary by person, time, place, and situation – it changes along with changing societal standards and norms."

People and circumstances change what is normality....we see it in each generation...What was "normal" fifty years ago isn't normal today..

But here's the question that exists today that didn't exist then....
In the past... people changing.. affected society....and not the other way around..

A changing society, changes normality.. But the question now is how does the idea of normality change people?

People change the society.. but today some are trying to figure how they can change society to change people.. to a different normality..

It's happening Now... right in front of your eyes...In the past people couldn't see what and how it was happening..they were doing it..but didn't realize it..
Today.. if you can SEE it happening.. You're not the one doing it.

This for a lot of the rest of world.. is normal.. to change society to change people.
It has happened in the past, many times...... Nazi Germany, Muslim countries, Communism, Autocrats, and Kings and Queens...But NOT in AMERICA....

In America it's been tried but "WE THE PEOPLE" have always prevented it..
WE THE PEOPLE.. always think we are in charge... It the basis of our FREEDOM. to decide our own FATE.. To create a society that reflects ALL of US....That a Society does NOT affect people.. But people, with their RESPECT for each other.. "WE THE PEOPLE decide our own SOCIETY.

It's been a given for so long.. we have forgotten....What makes US what we are..


jiminycricket1 68M
9812 posts
11/15/2018 6:20 am

For those who actually realize what they are doing....They come to the realization.. that any acceptance.. no matter how slight is the prelude to accepting it ALL...Any battle won.. wins the war...They can't do it all at once.. They chisel away..until our freedom become unrecognizable. If THEY control society..THEY control the people... And that which we never realized we were doing..become the realization it's been done to US.
It won't be recognizable as Nazi Germany, Muslim countries, Communism, or a King and Queen... it will different in the WHAT... but the HOW EXACTLY the same. It won't the AMERICA we make. It will be a different kind of AMERICA.. that will Force US to become NORMAL.
They come right out and say it... Can't YOU hear it?
You don't need to dissect it, analyses it.. find fault in it....It says it all
NATIONALISM.. A NEW and BETTER America?..
It will MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!


Rocketship 74F
15013 posts
11/15/2018 8:08 am

I think that those with power and influence [money], have always manipulated societal norms to their advantage.

I don't think any country was ever immune.

It's only now, in our much more open and advanced information era that many,[but of course not all], of those manipulations are revealed.


jiminycricket1 68M
9812 posts
11/15/2018 11:49 am

    Quoting Rocketship:
    I think that those with power and influence [money], have always manipulated societal norms to their advantage.

    I don't think any country was ever immune.

    It's only now, in our much more open and advanced information era that many,[but of course not all], of those manipulations are revealed.

yes...that's it
But it was never blatant.. It was always.. like women who get men to do what they want.. by having them think it's their idea. LOL
We knew it was happening. but it was still our idea..so we thought.

But now.. it's blatant..Nationalism is a blatant social idea. It's not about convincing people it's right.. It's about getting people to conform to it...Not getting people to believe it's right.. It's getting people to accept it. It means it doesn't need a reason to do something.. It's just becomes a justification for doing something..It's its own reason

Okay the joke I made above..is both an example and a justification, that women should be well aware of... from a social standpoint....Nationalism is like being a man....men do stuff.. and for somethings.... their only reason and justification is because the are a man.


Rocketship 74F
15013 posts
11/15/2018 12:29 pm

Ahhhhh Yes! ................ I understand ~~~