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jiminycricket1 74M
5535 posts
1/8/2019 9:15 am
Likeability


Well the topic of discussion today was the Likeability of Elizabeth Warren, as is relates to Hillary Clinton.... Women seeking power.....and her own being..

The one thing about politics and likeability it's not about policy.... there are similar choices in policy, but different likeabilities. so it's some thing different.. like looks and speech and not about what you say... but the way you say it. The sense of connection..

So I'll take one issue.. that expresses all the issues about likeability.
Women seeking power? How does that effect their likeability?

All the factor of likeability.. still are in play... but there is a huge underlying difference in gender.
The culture..is sexist... both for the culture's good and bad..
Likeability is sexist..

Heterosexual men are lying.. if they say.. they never look at women as sexual objects.
Initially that all they ever see.. that's all their judgement is about.
Likeability for men is the fantasy of who they want, in all the aspects of likeability. but with a predominant subconscious idea of sex..A powerful woman rarely conforms to that likeability aspect.. so a woman who seeks power, are behind the eight ball, with almost ALL men when it comes to likeability... if they see them as a Woman.
For some of women... likeability of other women.. has a lot to do with sex too.. like competition, attraction, and comparisons... woman in power do not raise these type of women. but lower their own self worth. Women seeking power for SOME women are not likeable
So women, like in almost everything in a sexist society, are behind the eight ball.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
1/8/2019 9:33 am

"The culture..is sexist... both for the culture's good and bad.."

I shouldn't say stuff .. I know what I mean.. and not explain it..

Obvious I have explained the "bad'

But where is the "good" of it?

First let me say.. I'm an observer.. not a partaker.. I doubt your going to like what I have to say..

Women need to understand what they want.. what they look for.. what's their needs.. what has been the intention of their evolution.

The sexist culture.. with all it's inequities towards woman.. is necessary.
We see in cultures that aren't sexist.. In those cultures men basically don't care.

So what you got is the "good' of our sexist culture.. that makes men care....or a non sexist culture in which men won't care... Take your choice... because sexist culture or not woman will care.. that's what they do.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
1/8/2019 10:41 am

In the movie.. When Harry Met Sally...... the line went like this

"No man can be friends with a woman that he finds attractive. He always wants to have sex with her."

Research proves.....

"But it turns out that Harry was right and Sally was wrong; men really can't be 'just friends' with women. Researchers have discovered that men's friendships with the opposite sex are always driven by sexual attraction, regardless of whether they are single or not"

So attraction for Men.. which turn out to be the main factor of likeability..is sexual attraction.
Without it men don't care....You are neither likeable, nor unlikable.
In fact there is absolutely no doubt for heterosexual men and "friendship"... men prefer men ....in terms of likeability.
What that says as likeability and friendship goes.....Men really don't LIKE women.
Unless there is sexual attraction.
Sexism is not about sex or power for most men........It about sexual attraction, that our sexist culture enhances, which sometimes gets confused in men...with sex and power.
it's why many marriages... go to hell......when mostly men and some women lose their sexual attraction for their partner.

But the biggest misconception...about sex and sexual attraction, that makes it different for us all............It's not what the body says about it.. it what the minds says about it.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
1/8/2019 4:29 pm

    Quoting  :

It's a good example of what I meant by women who don't thinks other women are likeable..
The sexist culture is more created than real....It's created for cultural good, but morphs into what is culturally bad.....There's the phony part and the real part.....what is confusing for men and women is not knowing the difference.......and the phony part becomes the real part, and the real part becomes the phony part.
SOME women buy into the phony part so it becomes real.. and see other women who try to make it real... as phonies
Beauty is ONE good example.. as how it's perception falls into the phony part. And women trying to make themselves beautiful..see that phoniness as real. Those women, they see, not buying into it... are phony..

Love for men.. is the ability to take off all the makeup, all the clothes and all the phony....and men's eyes see the true beauty.. So, although that's the truth..the sexist culture means women won't see it that way.


LeafReport 73M

1/8/2019 5:07 pm

Warren is very likable. She hit a home run in Iowa and she will coast to coast.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
1/8/2019 5:30 pm

    Quoting LeafReport:
    Warren is very likable. She hit a home run in Iowa and she will coast to coast.
well... I have no intention, or wish to dispell anything...
I will NEVER dispute .."beauty is in the eye of the beholder".


LeafReport 73M

1/9/2019 4:57 pm

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    well... I have no intention, or wish to dispell anything...
    I will NEVER dispute .."beauty is in the eye of the beholder".
Yep...and in the latest Srtaw poll guess what... Warren leads the pack.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
1/9/2019 5:45 pm

    Quoting LeafReport:
    Yep...and in the latest Srtaw poll guess what... Warren leads the pack.
I still like .. O'Rourke..

Now his distractors will say he's a "potty mouth" F-bombs and such..

I keep saying policy doesn't matter me... Honesty does.

O'Roruke is what I call...... using positive profanity..

His profanity is only his seal of approval.... for his own honesty..

No Candidate.. would do it.. Who was concerned that someone would think them dishonest. What O"Rourke say is...I am honesty...let it speak for itself...What he doesn't say... that I am willing to say
If you think otherwise F-U.. He doesn't need to prove anything to you..