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Conspiracy....the lie of the Conspirator So we have it.. the conspiracy theorist.. I don't know what specifically the counter intelligence investigation knows.. I know what it doesn't mean....As to open one REQUIRES EVIDENCE.. To maintain one REQUIRES evidence The idea that the evidence that's effects Trump Administration People.. That's is trying to infer of Trump's involvement.. That idea of that is the witch hunt.. To INFER..... In that inference Trump says There was No COLLUSION.. and it's a conspiracy This has changed it....... It now goes the other way around.. THE EVIDENCE is Trump's Collusion... and the inference is to his people....that's what it takes to open a counter intelligence investigation.. All those people Mueller has indicted.. every single one them...Has got caught, not because of their collusion.. but because, of Trump and Russia.. They don't prove Trump's guilt.. Trump's guilt proves their guilt of collusion.. Those indicted, except for maybe Manafort, did the deed.... but didn't have the intent.. Trump and Russia were moving the pawns. This is NOT a conspiracy.....The evidence of Trump collusion and obstruction.. will no longer be indirect..We think that collusion and obstruction are separate.. Collusion with Russia to get elected. An obstruction to protect Trump's election and his people But this changes..... When the obstruction becomes the collusion..Collusion to get elected NO LONGER MATTERS. It's only a tiny fraction of what this means |
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There's an idea here.. That is used by trump... that we don't even see..Trump's alternative facts and hyperbole... Doesn't increase OUR alternative facts and Hyperbole.. but simpl..... in the opposite... grounds US It creates , in our mind.. the inability to think in possibilities. If Trump thinks in possibilities.. we can not . OUR assessment of Collusion and Obstruction.. is only based on the facts we know. And by Trump's necessities.. makes us ignore the facts we don't know.. To counter him. When the Mueller report comes out .... It all works against him....Most of us will not accept alternative facts and lies any more....We have been grounded.. You think it's bad NOW.. when Mueller report comes out... heads are going to roll.
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Think of the passes, reduced sentences, and immunity.. Mueller has given.. On the basis of Trump's involvement ...if Trump was not involved.. those thing will cost him as being too lenient.. If |Trump is involved then all the leniency does matter.. Mueller wouldn't do that... without KNOWING
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1/13/2019 11:48 am |
I have always been perplexed by Jared's apparent power. I'll be fascinated by whatever, if anything, Mueller uncovers there. I'm deeply suspicious that Jared has been manipulating the Trump family for years. There's a link to Bibi as well and you know there's manipulation in that relationship. I've never grasped why Jared would put up with Flynn and Bannon being a part of the team. I think now that Jared and Trump set out to use both of them and then blame and discard them when their primary goal had been achieved. I think Mueller now knows what that goal was....and I think the counter-intelligence investigation uncovered that. What nobody expected was for Sally Yates to figure it all out and its been one chaotic cover-up ever since. That report is going to be so interesting. I think there is conspiracy here, its just not the conspiracy you were looking for.
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1/13/2019 12:12 pm |
This is Israeli intelligence working in very deep ways to eventually get the U.S. into a war with Iran. That's not an easy thing to do in overt ways. Obama marginalized Iran but that is not what Israel ever wanted. They couldn't install Bolton at NSA right away...they had to sneak him in at the right time. Flynn provided the cover for that with his ridiculous public 'Iran is on notice' proclamation in a White House briefing. Shortly after that...Yates spills the beans and plan B was hatched....Bolton. Then Rocket man screwed it all up. Foreign policy is messy...and Trump was way over his head. You have to remember its only been 2 years. Trump is desperate to discredit this investigation because the stakes are so high. Bibi has made several trips to Moscow. Have you ever asked yourself...why? The answer is Turkey....and Iranian militants in Syria...and once again Obama...who went into Syria to chase ISIS...another problem nobody saw coming. I think this whole matter has deep Israeli roots and they went after Jared to pull it all off. Once the Iranian militants are wiped out of Syria (see Russia)...the deck is cleared to take on Iran...because Trump has turned a blind eye (for profit) by allowing the Saudi's to commit atrocities in Yemen and wipe out the rebels there. It just all fits....but nothing works unless Trump gets elected. Nobody else presented a 'Jared' opportunity. It's never simple Cricket...its complicated as hell....and somebody saw or heard or read something at the FBI....and it was enough to persuade judges.
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1/13/2019 12:13 pm |
There was no threat to fire Rosenstein really...because that would expose the cover-up they are still trying to pull off.
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1/13/2019 12:19 pm |
When you read the Nixon tapes and study the Watergate testimony, which I have, you realize one thing. It's hard to execute a cover-up because you cannot always account for every possibility. They never had time to get rid of Yates....and Nixon never expected deep throat. I could be wrong...but I strongly believe this is a lot bigger than any of us realize. The Russian involvement is just too deep to conclude otherwise...its drip, drip, drip....even to the point of fascism in order to protect the cover-up.
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1/13/2019 12:26 pm |
McConnell isn't worried about Rosenstein because everyone in the senate knows there is a cover-up already. The threat to protect him was strategic...to see what else Trump might inadvertently expose. It's also to begin preparing the American people for one hell of a shock. You are right in my view...this is Benedict Arnold level stuff....and the typical way a traitor falls prey...money.
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I have always been perplexed by Jared's apparent power. I'll be fascinated by whatever, if anything, Mueller uncovers there. I'm deeply suspicious that Jared has been manipulating the Trump family for years. There's a link to Bibi as well and you know there's manipulation in that relationship. I've never grasped why Jared would put up with Flynn and Bannon being a part of the team. I think now that Jared and Trump set out to use both of them and then blame and discard them when their primary goal had been achieved. I think Mueller now knows what that goal was....and I think the counter-intelligence investigation uncovered that. What nobody expected was for Sally Yates to figure it all out and its been one chaotic cover-up ever since. That report is going to be so interesting. I think there is conspiracy here, its just not the conspiracy you were looking for. There's a difference between Bibi and Trump and Putin and Trump. The difference is in getting what you want to happen..Bibi and Putin see the restrictions.. they know they have to work around them.. and if that doesn't work. to reevaluate what it is they want..So what Bibi and Putin WANT are restricted by what they can get. Trump has NO SUCH RESTRICTIONS. He see the power Bibi and Putin have... and can't understand why they just don't take what they want. Trump doesn't care...... he just DOES WHATEVER IT TAKES to actually get what he wants. The difference between what you want and what you think is going to happen. Not only goes for leaders... but also is the reasoning behind Trump and trump supporters.. They also think that what they want.. is the only reality, and only truth Both I and my brother agreed we wanted the Chargers to beat the Patriots today... He couldn't understand when i told him ...But, I don't think the Chargers stand a snowballs chance in hell.. My brother is a Trump voter...And refused to understand that wanting the Charger to win... didn't mean they had the best chance of winning..He refuse to accept ..I wanted the Charger to win.. If I thought they didn't stand a snowballs chance.
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The indictment of Trump's People.. is suppose to INFER Trump's involvement. It certainly doesn't do that completely and leaves the door open. For Trump to say NO Collusion. But the investigation is not based on that... Trump's collusion infers his Peoples involvement.. It's his people that can say, for themselves, there was NO Collusion .. They weren't colluding with Russians.. Trump was..All except Manafort.. who actually was. At his point , and what Friday night tells us..about the investigation.... is that Trump and Manafort are the only two, we know at this point, that are going to be indicted for conspiring with Russians.
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1/13/2019 4:31 pm |
Bibi is the ringleader here Cricket....
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1/13/2019 4:33 pm |
Just listen to all the BS Trump spews about a stupid wall. Trump is an idiot.
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1/13/2019 4:35 pm |
Bibi has been angry for a long time because American churches by the thousands have been divesting from Israeli companies who are profiting from entities operating in stolen West Bank land. This is complicated.
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1/13/2019 5:52 pm |
What I'm saying is that Bibi is using Jared to help advance his cause because Trump trusts him implicitly and Bibi needs a useful puppet. He doesn't want to pull the strings himself though. That would blow up spectacularly. It's not hard to grasp why Jared was cool to Christie in the transition. It wasn't that Christie prosecuted his father, it was because Christie was smart. That's not in Jared's best interest....so he had to go. Trump has to be manipulated into starting a war. That plan went south too because the generals Trump hired were not the yes men they had hoped they were. This is why it has been so unbelievably chaotic. The Trump family has no political experience. It is harder to pull off than they ever imagined. Not to be lost in all this is the self-interest of all the players too...and that includes Putin, who is looking for a way to grab Ukraine and expand influence in the Middle East, and Bibi himself, who now find himself fighting corruption charges....wag the dog solves a lot of problems...and Bibi is probably getting impatient....and look what happened only yesterday....the headline that Bolton asked the Pentagon for military plans to strike Iran. They are looking for the match...and that came when mortars were fired toward the embassy in Baghdad. People are getting nervous. A lot easier to take on Iran when troops are not in Syria....and why worry about a Saudi murderer when you don't care about a famine in Yemen. These are not very bright people. Mattis didn't want anything to do with this crap.
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1/13/2019 6:12 pm |
I'm pretty much in agreement with you that only Manafort and Trump are the ones involved in collusion...and that's the way Bibi would obviously prefer it were it ever to become exposed. Jared has never been serious in brokering a deal with the Palestinians....he goes to Israel periodically for brainwashing. This is a long game strategy of course...Obama bought the Israelis time by marginalizing Iran. The war is supposed to come next year...election year of course. It's such a dangerous game they are playing, and the cover-up is proving to be a different kind of war...that Putin is fighting, and Trump never saw it coming...but Sally Yates did. We shall see...but you have to ask yourself...what was the REAL reason Senator Corker left public service....Trump...or Senator Cotton? Then ask yourself why all this terrorist BS about crossing the southern border? When the enemy is on your doorstep (which it isn't), its an easier sell than an enemy hiding behind rubble in Aleppo. It's a huge mess with incredible tentacles and a deep cover-up ...perhaps leading to treason. I think Senator Sessions lied at his confirmation hearing....how clever 'I don't recall'. None of us knows what Mueller knows....and there's a chance we'll never know and that's a very scary proposition with so much on the line now...like democracy.
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1/13/2019 6:12 pm |
Go Chiefs!
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1/14/2019 2:52 am |
Jared was trained by his father who went to prison FOR WHAT???
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Bibi is the ringleader here Cricket.... When based on the evidence of what's happening....You are exposing yourself... to what you want it to be.. instead of what it is.. A couple of things. First Trump has been Trump..Longer that Bibi's been Bibi and Jared's been Jared. What you consider and oppose as influence.. must have positive results for your opposition. So let me ask.. Moving the Embassy to Jerusalem..I opposed for the negative results. In your determining influence, You need to consider the positive results of the person doing the influence. I just don't see it..for Israel What I see is the negative results. that would be positive for someone else.. For example Russia or Saudi Arabia. how it increase their influence instead of Israel's. I'm not AGAINST the move of the embassy to Jerusalem... because it helps Israel.. I'm not against the move to Jerusalem.... because it help US I'm against the move to Jerusalem.. because of the chaos, division, partisanship, and instability it causes. Seems I have already concluded....... who in fact that helps? Who has that goal..?
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Your negativism towards Israel..... can't go two or three different ways. So You too are a conspiracy theorist? Because the ONLY way.... what you say makes any sense... is if Israel and Russia are in Cahoots.. So say it.... You wouldn't put that past Israel.. say it..... So go ahead.. jump on that one.. believe in that one.......against any evidence.. Just to Prove yourself right....... Just to make what you want.. What it is. Then tell me.... how different you are than Trump and his supporters?
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I don't change my thoughts.... because of who is the actor.. I don't care.. All I care about is MY consistency in thoughts.. Just mine.. Just my view of the truth, and how consistent others are in determining their view of the truth. It my measuring stick of the truth.....The truth can't be inconsistent... I don't question the facts.....I question my consistency in thinking about those facts. I'm only wrong.... if the facts are wrong....I try to make my truth and the consistency of that... NEVER WRONG. Once I understand the facts are wrong.. it changes my conclusion of what is the truth.. but it Never changes my consistency in thinking of how I think about the truth.?
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1/14/2019 6:54 am |
Jared was trained by his father who went to prison FOR WHAT???
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1/14/2019 7:34 am |
Your negativism towards Israel..... can't go two or three different ways. So You too are a conspiracy theorist? Because the ONLY way.... what you say makes any sense... is if Israel and Russia are in Cahoots.. So say it.... You wouldn't put that past Israel.. say it..... So go ahead.. jump on that one.. believe in that one.......against any evidence.. Just to Prove yourself right....... Just to make what you want.. What it is. Then tell me.... how different you are than Trump and his supporters? Bibi can't arrange to rig the American election. But it would be interesting to research what he was saying during the Clinton years when he was out of power. Bibi can't broker a Trump Tower in Moscow either. As long as someone kills Iranian militants in Syria Bibi doesn't care who it is...and as long as they don't have to pay for it. Israel didn't worry about Syria for 40 years...they knew Assad wouldn't attack them. But they weren't going to take him out because the alternative wouldn't present the same sort of probability. American thirst for action in Syria was dead on arrival and they knew it. Nobody wants a piece of that chaos. Syria has been a distraction for awhile now....or I should say an annoyance for a lot of nations. But nobody wants Iranian militants in there, and that includes Russia. Israel nurtured the Trump Russia relationship, through Jared, and has just been standing by watching it all unfold...waiting for their war. Israel's interests are for Israel. They don't give a crap about anybody but themselves....and as 40 years testifies...they will do anything to grab land....regardless of United States policy and UN resolutions, and they will do anything to get that war. America has lost TRILLIONS of dollars in the Middle East quagmire. It is not in America's interests to give blanket deference to that government.
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1/14/2019 7:41 am |
Cricket...Israel isn't going to agree to a 2 state solution...this was the policy advocated by Hillary Clinton...who was not going to abandon Palestinian Christians who have had their land stolen by Bibi's government. Do you really think Trump cares about that...land theft...when he's willing to steal land for an Israeli type wall from Texas ranchers? Bibi has known Jared's family for decades...and only a lie detector test would convince me he didn't know about Trump Tower Moscow.
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Cricket...Israel isn't going to agree to a 2 state solution...this was the policy advocated by Hillary Clinton...who was not going to abandon Palestinian Christians who have had their land stolen by Bibi's government. Do you really think Trump cares about that...land theft...when he's willing to steal land for an Israeli type wall from Texas ranchers? Bibi has known Jared's family for decades...and only a lie detector test would convince me he didn't know about Trump Tower Moscow. It's just not reasonable... to not connect the two.. Russia and Israel. Your using facts and creating a fantasy....without the conspiracy between Russia and Israel.. it makes no sense. You are lacking consistency. In your truth Let me ask who's worse.. Russia or Israel? So...the Israeli conspiracy goes to ALL President.. hasn't changed one iota..Their taking advantage of Trump. Is what they shouldn't do? That what's happened is what NO other President would have done? That Israel is compromising Trump? Now tell me Who you are condemning.. Trump or Israel Now with Russia.... who are you condemning....Russia or Trump? Where is the fricken consistency? Is it what you WANT to see ..or what's really happening?
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Cricket...Israel isn't going to agree to a 2 state solution...this was the policy advocated by Hillary Clinton...who was not going to abandon Palestinian Christians who have had their land stolen by Bibi's government. Do you really think Trump cares about that...land theft...when he's willing to steal land for an Israeli type wall from Texas ranchers? Bibi has known Jared's family for decades...and only a lie detector test would convince me he didn't know about Trump Tower Moscow. My agreement with you.... is always the truth.. and you challenge only the part you disagree with.. which actually ....I appreciate But my disagreement with you...... Is a Lie? and you don't challenge the part you disagreement or accept ANY agreement to it.. I know what I am talking about when I agree...... and I am mistaken, when I don't agree.. Like agreement has anything to with it ... You want to regurgitate and not answer my questions when it suits you.. It doesn't matter to me ....if I think you thoughts about Israel. are totally off the wall.. and Prejudiced.... You COULD BE RIGHT......If you were consistent...., about the way I say things, and the way you hear things.. You make assumptions. that don't make sense.. Sounds like someone else here.. Like maisie says.. but it's ...Maybe you and her.. that need to get a room. You.... whether you agree with me or not..It's not the choice.. I WILL not pick and choose who I believe is telling the truth. Your Lying to yourself is no different than maisie lying to herself. so maybe you both need to get a "LIE" down.
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You may think... that I make assessment of the truth..with Rouhani, Mohammad bin Salman, Kim Jong-un....And Bibi... You're wrong .. I have no reason to....their consistency, and my disagreement does NOT challenge their truth... I challenge Putin's and Trump's truth.. Because I have reason to..
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