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jiminycricket1 74M
5533 posts
12/15/2019 5:30 am
Facts and Predictions..


It becomes virtually impossible to explain facts, to be logical about what the fact IS..After its already happened.

I will no longer do that..

I will discuss events that we agree Happen.. Without being factual about what that event means.

I will discuss the possibility of what it means...I have sort of been doing that..but I haven't made it clear.

I will discuss what we agree to be true... Then give my OPINION of what it means. But I will tell you, My opinion won't matter, if I can not predict what my opinion will result in.

So I wll give my opinion but you will wait, to know results. to know if I am right.

The Senate impeachment trial..
The facts.....It will be brought to the floor. It will be discussed in the Senate.. We will only hear what we have already heard. and the Senate will, as quickly as possible, take the vote. VIRTUALLY Every Republican will vote against impeachment.

There is a scheduled meeting between McConnell and Shummer to discuss the Senate procedures.
Although Trump said he "WANTED some of his Administration to testify...TRUMP LIED Not a single one will.
What will be offered is Rudy Gullianni.. for Biden and Schiff and the Whistlebolower.
Rudy Gullianni went to the Ukraine last week, to prepare his testimony..I beleive Rudy has obtained sworn statements from Russian agents... Not to prove Trump's innocents but to prove his own.
I don't think that "deal" will be made, No one hasn't already testified will be asked to testify in the Senate hearing.. That's the deal that will be made.


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jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
12/15/2019 6:15 am

For example with Leaf early on with the Democrat Primary.. I wanted to explain facts, about prior primaries, peoples attitudes, and the reversal of negativism. In talking about those things... Leaf believed i was choosing Amy Klobuchar as my candidate.. I wasn't doing that.. In fact Amy Klobuchar had nothing to do with it.. But an example, to explain my facts about the primary. the results aren't in, but I believe Klobuchar has mostly proved my fact right.. she didn't have to go from nobody nomination.. she had to go from Nobody to somebody.

So let me continue..If the Senate actually does put on a legitmate trial. (i don't think they will)
Amy Klobuchar could move From a lower level contender to one of the top contender.
She the one that the Trial will promote the most....Even more so than the debates.. the Trial will show the public SHE can be a Leader..That's the current problem for her nobody knows if she could do it. She doesn't look like she could it, she doesn't sound like she could do it.. But her actions in the trial will show she can.
Amy Klobuchar has a fault, for a Presidential candidate.. She can't play to an audience..She doesn't know how..
What she knows and what she does the best......is when she deals with a singular objective,, has her own view. of it....and deals with it..Then she comes across
knowledgeable, fierce, and in control. She comes across as a leader. Otherwise she's just playing the field.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
12/15/2019 6:39 am

I know I make some predictions. That we can not live long enough to prove as fact...see the result.... Yet, still I can give possibilities..

Trump's possible future. None of which will he be known as a great "President". President is not what he is.. so he can't become great at it

Trump's best result for his future would be to be impeached and or/ resign...The 2020 election will not change the results... win or lose..
If Trump remains as President or remains as a political force... he has only two choices.

To become America's first KING.. or become the Greatest traitor this country has ever known..

The way I see it.. is becoming KING or not.. doesn't change it much.

Trump will become the greatest traitor this country has ever known.

The Children of our Children will ask them why?.. How did it happen?
So let me ask you to prepare yourself to tell THEM.
Tell them why it's happening...and if you got the guts.... Tell me too.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
12/15/2019 12:18 pm

Money in politics......The politicians are loyal only to the corporations that fund them......everything else is just window dressing.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
12/15/2019 2:06 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    Money in politics......The politicians are loyal only to the corporations that fund them......everything else is just window dressing.
I don't think it's money..as one Use to think..It's about power and control..Money appears to be one of the main factors in obtaining money to obtain control and power. One of the changes that has happened with money..Is people used to GIVE money for influence, and politician would sell their influence.. This has changed with Trump. With Trump the money doesn't come to him. he goes to the money. He doesn't sell his influence.. he does two things.. He gets people to buy his influence and he leverages his influence for money, in some case these people don't have a choice.. Pay or else?
So with Trump... how politicians CAN obtain power and control has changed.

Lying, cheating leverage, blackmail, manipulation, and Money buying the influence of other money... People who have money, once had influence, could buy influence...Not now, those same people are threatened to lose their money.
It's like the mob collecting protection payment from businesses.

So it's working for Trump now, but he can't keep it up..He can't deliver the protection, he can't work in every benefactors favor.. Trump still believes in Zero Balance...He wins someone else loses.
He's running out of bridges, because he's burning too many.
There are so many people now, that say they support Trump..But when they see the right time coming.. they will BURN HIM... when they themselves can't get singed.


LeafReport 73M

12/16/2019 2:59 am

I wouldn't sell the senate short here. I've been around long enough to know, and to have witnessed many times, that there is a genuine intellect and deeply rooted commitment to the country among senate colleagues. That doesn't mean a denial of political motivations. It also doesn't suggest that every senator is immune from corruption. I trust the U.S. Senate more than any other governmental entity federal or state. Yes, I intended to leave out law enforcement and the courts. This doesn't suggest the Senate is perfect, What I'm saying is that the U.S. Senate is the nation's conscience and while I cannot give it blind trust I am willing to trust it for the duration. I don't always agree with their judgments, and sometimes I feel bitter when losing, but I still hang onto hope that conscience prevails. Sometimes that means being patient, even for the next election. It's important to listen to this senate debate. It may not change the impeachment outcome, but it will reassure the nation in ways that give them confidence in how they later choose to vote. That is precious and central to what it means to feel free.


LeafReport 73M

12/16/2019 3:28 am

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    For example with Leaf early on with the Democrat Primary.. I wanted to explain facts, about prior primaries, peoples attitudes, and the reversal of negativism. In talking about those things... Leaf believed i was choosing Amy Klobuchar as my candidate.. I wasn't doing that.. In fact Amy Klobuchar had nothing to do with it.. But an example, to explain my facts about the primary. the results aren't in, but I believe Klobuchar has mostly proved my fact right.. she didn't have to go from nobody nomination.. she had to go from Nobody to somebody.

    So let me continue..If the Senate actually does put on a legitmate trial. (i don't think they will)
    Amy Klobuchar could move From a lower level contender to one of the top contender.
    She the one that the Trial will promote the most....Even more so than the debates.. the Trial will show the public SHE can be a Leader..That's the current problem for her nobody knows if she could do it. She doesn't look like she could it, she doesn't sound like she could do it.. But her actions in the trial will show she can.
    Amy Klobuchar has a fault, for a Presidential candidate.. She can't play to an audience..She doesn't know how..
    What she knows and what she does the best......is when she deals with a singular objective,, has her own view. of it....and deals with it..Then she comes across
    knowledgeable, fierce, and in control. She comes across as a leader. Otherwise she's just playing the field.
Hi Cricket. Well not exactly. All I know is that you came out in support of Mayor Pete, not Amy. But now in the latest poll Michael Bloomberg has caught Amy so I still don't think her candidacy is going anywhere beyond Iowa. Iowa is a caucus state and I don't give caucus states much credibility, especially Iowa given their very long record of being wrong.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
12/16/2019 7:34 am

    Quoting LeafReport:
    I wouldn't sell the senate short here. I've been around long enough to know, and to have witnessed many times, that there is a genuine intellect and deeply rooted commitment to the country among senate colleagues. That doesn't mean a denial of political motivations. It also doesn't suggest that every senator is immune from corruption. I trust the U.S. Senate more than any other governmental entity federal or state. Yes, I intended to leave out law enforcement and the courts. This doesn't suggest the Senate is perfect, What I'm saying is that the U.S. Senate is the nation's conscience and while I cannot give it blind trust I am willing to trust it for the duration. I don't always agree with their judgments, and sometimes I feel bitter when losing, but I still hang onto hope that conscience prevails. Sometimes that means being patient, even for the next election. It's important to listen to this senate debate. It may not change the impeachment outcome, but it will reassure the nation in ways that give them confidence in how they later choose to vote. That is precious and central to what it means to feel free.
I'm not disagreeing..

My point was if Amy Klobuchar.. gets her say in a legitimate impeachment it will improve her chances. Her chance still aren't very good.
Because I believe it can happen, doesn't mean it will.
It won't because....This senate impeachment will be a sham and the hoax. I feel the same as you about most senators..They want to be fair.. But that's not the issue. Fair is not the issue Trust is the issue.
Much like All trump supporters denial is the issue..Trump supporters are set up to deny what's right in front of them.. The senators are not supporting Trump.. they are refusing to investigate him.. there's a difference.

There are some things in the Constitution that support their position.. if stated properly.
First Presidential authority is granted Carte blanche. and Constitutional restrictions on the president apply to the other branches. Those other branches have just CHECKS on the President there is NO balance.
This is the question Republicans refuse to answer.
It Does a bunch of things.
First it insinuates what the President wants but doesn't approve it.. It open the door to more abuse.
Second, it doesn't put them on the hook..When the parties reverse. Establishing rules for abuse of power, obstruction, and other problems with this president.. will tie their hands when a Democrats in office for them to impeach. Senator want this to be vague..So they they may use it for their benefit, When that time comes.
It is obvious from both a Senators and in Public agreement.. that there is a double standard. A standard for Your Party and a standard for the other Party..
This President can do anything without repercussions..by simply the automatic denial of ANY evidence on the basis of Fakes news, Partisanship, Conspiracies and Witch hunts.

The idea of what happens when Trump is no longer President..Plays to both his abuses to be continued by someone else.. or to be retried for someone else.. Nothing will be established in this impeachment.. AS such it is ENTIRELY Political

But what's going to happen after Trump is president..Is the monumental problem.. It's the Mountain from this molehill.. It is the continuation of his Presidency with or without him.. Only impeachment and agreement will SAVE US, from ourselves.

Republicans , not Democrats, are making this happen.. Trump is making this happen.
the issue and facts are as follows..

Trump feels it is in his right to interfere with election, and Republican feel it's within their right to interfere with election. The playing field must be leveled.. and those rights must not be taken by Democrats but given to them. If Republicans want to maintain that right..They got to give it to everybody.

So is it a crime to interfere with elections? .......Decide it

Is president power to be restricted, instead of checked.

There is only one reason for the Republicans to acquit this president.. and they need to back it up..The inappropriateness of trump behavior is CLEAR.. Yet Does it reach the level for impeachment..the inappropriateness of Trump's behavior.. Must be investigated, it's level must be determined, before they can take that vote.
that would be America..and That is our real problem...
This country.. NO LONGER BELIEVES IN ITSELF.