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jiminycricket1 74M
5535 posts
2/12/2020 10:20 am
A blog response.. not from here..What we are up against


"We finally have a President in Donald Trump that is an actual businessman that does things for the best interest of the company (i.e. the nation) and every liberal seems hate that. Why is that? Why on earth would liberals want something else that's NOT what's best for our nation?????? WHY?"

Let me ask you... how far would you go.. not prove it?
Obviously Lies aren't enough change it..
How about fixing the election.. if you knew Trump could fix the election, and You think Trump is the only one that can help the country.. Would you support him doing that?
You obviously support Trump using foreign interference win the election..
How far can Trump go... before you say enough is enough.?
How far does your idea of the size of your bank account, support your moral bankruptcy.?
Do you believe happiness is a warm gun...?
How far does your hate go.. support your immorality ?

I can tell you right now, it does NOT go as far as Trump goes..And because of that, you will find out soon enough. What goes around, comes around


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
2/12/2020 10:41 am

Our Democracy or Republic.. or whatever the heck want to call it.. Is in serious jeopardy....
Seriously don't take this lying down.

So it's now,, Hell yes it's a witch hunt,... Hell yes it's a hoax...Hell yes it's fake news.. Hell yes this impeachment is Partisan.. Hell yes, the media is liberal. Hell yes I am going to lie and cheat .. hell yes I'm socialist Hell yes I'm gay. Hell yes i want to turn over the election.. Hell yes I'm a person of color, Hell yes I'm a Muslim lover. Hell yes, I am not one of YOUR Americans.

Because Hell Yes .. to find you I am going to turn over every rock, you're hiding under..Hell yes i am going to send you to HELL. Because that's the only place you can Make America Great Again.

But I'll be kind and let you out when Hell freezes over...., because of climate change.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
2/12/2020 1:20 pm

A while back .....Michelle Obama said ... "when they go low we go high"..

Whether or not Republican believe that to be true...It was a tenet that was debated and listen to.. It impacted how Democrats and the news media, and most liberal pundit treated the actions of Trump and his cronies. They tried to go high.

The impeachment trial... and now the actions of this presidents... the use of the DOJ for political reasons. The election interference. the retaliations.. and now the budget of cutting medicare and medicaid and Social security...while saying he wouldn't do it..

Well, obvious going high is to be taken advantage of.. These people have no idea of what the equal reaction would be to their going low.. Well people are getting tired of it.... Trump talks of ruined lives for those who support him by Democrats, which except for the MOST criminal.. it's simply been a disrepect..
But if it going take imprisonment, monetary lost by fines, by lost revenue, by ostracizing, and character assassination of those more innocent, less participants and more just an enabler.. victims of their own victimization. Post their names in neighborhoodws along with the child moleste4rs.
To make the point .. It's going to get done. when WE go low.. they won't know what hit them.. if they are going to Lie about how bad we are.. We might as well show them how bad we can be.

Trumps budget...saying his cuts aren't really doing it...That his cuts are designed to protect us against the abuses to those programs.. cut medicaid for people who can work, Cut medicare and social security for people who are on disability and can work. Now he says that .. when he didn't say that when he first SAID HE WOULD NOT CUT THOSE THINGS. he lied...
To translate what he saying now, and his cuts to medicaid and medicare and social security.. is that Trump and Republican are going to decide who needs that help the least, and cut them..
You people are just fools to believe them .. once they cut those who need it the least.. then they move on to those who would THEN need it the least.. until they determine that nobody NEEDS IT .. The cut is to force a decision of the Adminstrators of who to cut for lack of funds.

Trump is cutting health insurance and health care right and Left..of course the Right does know it. They don't want to know it.. but they will find out when it gets around to them.
When to we tell our president he insults our intellignece he lise when he say he will keep pre-existing condition.. he won't cut medicare and medicaid, he will lower drug prices. lower health care cost.. When he doesn't do it , and NEVER intended to do it. And in some case just the opposite. When he says he didn't tell Barr to lower the sentences of his cronies , replace the proceutors and name his own man... Tell me he's Not setting up his pardons of those people.
WTF does he think we 're stupid? Well you are if you believe him.

Well the funny thing about stupid... when your stupid long enough you can only smarten up..

How do we deal with a person like that and his enablers.? Well going high doesn't work.. It's time to get down and dirty.. and put those SOB's in Prison . Beating Trump ain't good enough.. He needs to go to prison..maybe that seem to low a thing a to do.. but you see.. he needs to reap what he sows.. We need an unfair punishment.. to Make sure it NEVER happens again.


LeafReport 73M

2/12/2020 3:58 pm

Well I'm frustrated I'll admit that. It is time to get down and dirty. This latest thing with Stone is just the last straw with me. The senate is critical now. Super Tuesday is D- Day...LOL

Remember The Longest Yard ...."Rules? What Rules?"


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
2/12/2020 4:24 pm

    Quoting LeafReport:
    Well I'm frustrated I'll admit that. It is time to get down and dirty. This latest thing with Stone is just the last straw with me. The senate is critical now. Super Tuesday is D- Day...LOL

    Remember The Longest Yard ...."Rules? What Rules?"
The idea of a Deep State conspiracy.. I'll buy that .. We fight them with a deep state conspiracy..

Yes we conspire to beat trump and those that enable him.. but you realize it will take a little work and self sacrifice..

In Colorado a bakery refused to make a cake for a gay couple.. That's bad of course . the bakery was defended, by those who support Trump.
So, we form " The Bakery Conspiracy", a conspiracy to hurt any Trump enabler anywhere any time.. we boycot every fox news advertiser. We boycott every corporate enabler. we boycott every trump business.. We boycott every Trump Administrators business and enterprise.. We obstruct every Trump and Trump supporting Senators bills..

WE do this even if it hurt us.. We stop them in their tracks.

WE praise whistler blowers and truth teller in the administration, We give Them assurances, about their job and income .. We offer rewards.. we use spies, and infiltrators..WE applaud leakers.. There is NO "classified" information anymore. That trump can classify.. there is no immunity for lying.. there is no national security issue greater than getting rid of trump.
Instead of Bloomberg supposed high road... how much do you think his money could expose, instead of spending it getting him elected. How much would Bolton have taken in lieu of his booksale waiting.?

Poor Stone and Flynn and Manafort getting what they Don't's deserve... Yeah, at this point it's about them getting much, much more than they deserve.

These people have lost their rights.. It's time we take it from them.

Don't kid yourself about the power of the presidency.. the president HAS NO POWER.. That we don't give him.
He has NO power that WE can't take away.
WE just have to "go the distance" to do it


LeafReport 73M

2/12/2020 5:55 pm

At this point I don't care what others are saying. I'm convinced that what Trump is doing has roots in a foreign plot to permanently weaken America. There simply is no credible argument in my view to the contrary. We are under attack by subversive forces from within. I don't even buy the mental illness anymore. I'm also not convinced in pure stupidity though that makes implementation of the plot's motives more viable. There is complicity here where something of great value is under some kind of blackmail threat. I don't know if we will ever get to the bottom of that, but I hope that we turn over every stone to find out...regardless of how long it takes.

It's hard to know when the balance tips...economic collapse, unjust war, some kind of national emergency, even summer riots? It's unknowable now, but for how long? I was disappointed that the senate proved so incredibly disconnected from reality. The case against Trump was compelling. That telegraphed to me that we are losing the fight. I warned people here of a new kind of fascism even before Madeline Albright wrote her book. I wish I hadn't seen this coming but only through coincidence I had just finished watching many documentaries and read extensively about the rise to power of the Nazis and Hitler shortly before Trump entered the 2016 race. It was just something that interested me as I reflected on the growing problem with obstruction in congress during the Obama years and concern over how Romney used lies in his campaign calculating that the net benefit of them would make the difference. So I could see this 'new kind of fascism' percolating in talk radio and in what Trump was doing, and even in the remnants of the Tea Party fringe. I was fearful of it of course, and certainly NOT confident the masses would see it as I dd. Some listened to the warnings...feeling it as well. What I don't know for sure is where, or if, we actually tipped over. I tend to feel now that you called it right...we are in full blown survival mode now. Now, when I call congress I feel, more than ever before, that the voices of alarm are completely ignored. Fear grips this country....and the cowards in the U.S. Senate sicken my stomach.


LeafReport 73M

2/12/2020 6:31 pm

Make sure you watch tonight's Rachel Maddow...online. later if necessary...she is saying what you just wrote!


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
2/12/2020 8:29 pm

    Quoting LeafReport:
    Make sure you watch tonight's Rachel Maddow...online. later if necessary...she is saying what you just wrote!
I did... It's was far more scary to me.. than what i wrote.

I'm giving suggestions of how we do it.. but it's getting so far along . we may not be able to..

Those good people who stand up..sound the alarm.. yeah sound the alarm all they want .. but nobody is listening.. And Trump is getting rid of more and more good people..

We may ultimately need a coup..We will need good people to be in a position to complete it..for us it's a catch twenty two
If the eledtion doesn't work, and the coup doesn't work..
I always wondered what would have happened to a man who would have assassinated Hitler in 1939? ....He would have been killed , of course but what would history have said.. And without really knowing, could he know he did the right thing?.. Interesting that it took four years for it to finally be tried unsuccessfully.
DEJA VU?


LeafReport 73M

2/13/2020 1:29 am

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    I did... It's was far more scary to me.. than what i wrote.

    I'm giving suggestions of how we do it.. but it's getting so far along . we may not be able to..

    Those good people who stand up..sound the alarm.. yeah sound the alarm all they want .. but nobody is listening.. And Trump is getting rid of more and more good people..

    We may ultimately need a coup..We will need good people to be in a position to complete it..for us it's a catch twenty two
    If the eledtion doesn't work, and the coup doesn't work..
    I always wondered what would have happened to a man who would have assassinated Hitler in 1939? ....He would have been killed , of course but what would history have said.. And without really knowing, could he know he did the right thing?.. Interesting that it took four years for it to finally be tried unsuccessfully.
    DEJA VU?
I wrote for months how much I was depending upon our institutions that grew brittle beginning with the Bush administration, specifically Dick Cheney's pursuit of expansion of executive power. The government shutdowns followed with increased regularity, McConnell went crazy with filibuster abuses and then refusing to fill the Supreme Court vacancy smashed the windows. Up until then I had confidence the occasional dysfunction would be patched up with rational thinking or voter intervention when things got to bad. But I never let go of that discomfort I felt in the 2000 election when the court, not the congress, decided in favor of Bush. I was surprised frankly that the public bitched a little but accepted the courts decision. Well I'm still bitching about that, but when Obama got elected I thought...wow, maybe we can put this thing back together again. Now I find that even with all the progress in patching up all the annoying little leaks in our democracy and our institutions that the entire structure may be its most brittle ever. My own concern in the last 20 years horrifies me frankly, because of the degree in which I underestimated all the threats. The safeguard was always the people within the agencies themselves. Accountability was always there somewhere, and thus trust. But now all that has been ripped to shreds with stunning aggressiveness. Trust has been evaporating for some time now. it isn't the occasional institutional hiccup anymore. I'm not talking about just the last 48 hours either. This nightmare has been an aggressive cancer for over 3 years now.

Rachel's opening was indeed scary. It forced me to acknowledge that my feelings at the time of Trump's impeachment acquittal, one of unspeakable disappointment and worry, may well have signaled that the fight is lost. I've been beating up the subversives the only way I really can...with words. I have to believe that one more voice, and then another and then another will save us. What needs to happen is those voices have to pour into the streets....and somebody has to grab the bullhorn soon. It's all slipping away because the trust is completely gone. I knew Barr was big trouble....I just knew it.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
2/13/2020 7:24 am

    Quoting LeafReport:
    I wrote for months how much I was depending upon our institutions that grew brittle beginning with the Bush administration, specifically Dick Cheney's pursuit of expansion of executive power. The government shutdowns followed with increased regularity, McConnell went crazy with filibuster abuses and then refusing to fill the Supreme Court vacancy smashed the windows. Up until then I had confidence the occasional dysfunction would be patched up with rational thinking or voter intervention when things got to bad. But I never let go of that discomfort I felt in the 2000 election when the court, not the congress, decided in favor of Bush. I was surprised frankly that the public bitched a little but accepted the courts decision. Well I'm still bitching about that, but when Obama got elected I thought...wow, maybe we can put this thing back together again. Now I find that even with all the progress in patching up all the annoying little leaks in our democracy and our institutions that the entire structure may be its most brittle ever. My own concern in the last 20 years horrifies me frankly, because of the degree in which I underestimated all the threats. The safeguard was always the people within the agencies themselves. Accountability was always there somewhere, and thus trust. But now all that has been ripped to shreds with stunning aggressiveness. Trust has been evaporating for some time now. it isn't the occasional institutional hiccup anymore. I'm not talking about just the last 48 hours either. This nightmare has been an aggressive cancer for over 3 years now.

    Rachel's opening was indeed scary. It forced me to acknowledge that my feelings at the time of Trump's impeachment acquittal, one of unspeakable disappointment and worry, may well have signaled that the fight is lost. I've been beating up the subversives the only way I really can...with words. I have to believe that one more voice, and then another and then another will save us. What needs to happen is those voices have to pour into the streets....and somebody has to grab the bullhorn soon. It's all slipping away because the trust is completely gone. I knew Barr was big trouble....I just knew it.
Well you were right about Barr i get to add him to my list..

I overestimated everything..and underestimated Trump... After Obama.. I thought those who opposed him needed to learn a lesson..I didn't vote because I saw Hillary as allowing them to continue on the path they were on..but Trump could teach them a lesson. I was willing to accept a little hurt to do that.
Well I was wrong about that too.. first finding out there were enough of them to elect him. Second, Trump was MUCH much worse than i thought possible..and third the lesson they learned was how to get away with bad behavior, and it's reward.I rationalized that people in the past had been duped, and never recovered and that trump's bad we could handle.. We had the institutions to control that ...Well I was wrong again. trump has destroyed our institution.
Then i move on to the Constitution...the checks and balances..the separation of power would control Trump..
I could accept the electorate being duped, I could accept our institutions being eroded. but i can not accept losing the trust and respect of the people who have pledge to uphold the constitution. the final straw to our destruction..

I remember when trump was first elected and his opposition saying he was pathological liar, immoral, insane, narcissitic, stupid, and we have given him the finger on the button.
My idea that, that truth as individually correct.. was not correct in the combination.. his ability to move from one individual aspect to another. to achieve the results he wanted... His inconsistent consistency is pretty amazing..
his ability to play US is amazing.. And we laugh at his own proposal that he is a "Stable Genius"
Rule number one... when an autocrat tells you something .. believe him....
the idea that trump is unstable is wrong..He has a plan and he sticks to it., and gets it done, unwavering. He's amazing at hiding his plan in his instability.
So don't expect him to make mistakes....And that's what scares the hell out of me
I am now so amazed at him.. i can't even tell if his letting us know, what he does wrong is not part of his plan. to erode what we will NOT accept.


LeafReport 73M

2/13/2020 10:23 am

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    Well you were right about Barr i get to add him to my list..

    I overestimated everything..and underestimated Trump... After Obama.. I thought those who opposed him needed to learn a lesson..I didn't vote because I saw Hillary as allowing them to continue on the path they were on..but Trump could teach them a lesson. I was willing to accept a little hurt to do that.
    Well I was wrong about that too.. first finding out there were enough of them to elect him. Second, Trump was MUCH much worse than i thought possible..and third the lesson they learned was how to get away with bad behavior, and it's reward.I rationalized that people in the past had been duped, and never recovered and that trump's bad we could handle.. We had the institutions to control that ...Well I was wrong again. trump has destroyed our institution.
    Then i move on to the Constitution...the checks and balances..the separation of power would control Trump..
    I could accept the electorate being duped, I could accept our institutions being eroded. but i can not accept losing the trust and respect of the people who have pledge to uphold the constitution. the final straw to our destruction..

    I remember when trump was first elected and his opposition saying he was pathological liar, immoral, insane, narcissitic, stupid, and we have given him the finger on the button.
    My idea that, that truth as individually correct.. was not correct in the combination.. his ability to move from one individual aspect to another. to achieve the results he wanted... His inconsistent consistency is pretty amazing..
    his ability to play US is amazing.. And we laugh at his own proposal that he is a "Stable Genius"
    Rule number one... when an autocrat tells you something .. believe him....
    the idea that trump is unstable is wrong..He has a plan and he sticks to it., and gets it done, unwavering. He's amazing at hiding his plan in his instability.
    So don't expect him to make mistakes....And that's what scares the hell out of me
    I am now so amazed at him.. i can't even tell if his letting us know, what he does wrong is not part of his plan. to erode what we will NOT accept.
Yeah, erosion is such an enormous problem. You see it every single day in both television and in opinion pieces. I'm disappointed in Michael Moore. He made a huge mistake in getting on the Bernie Bus. I had hoped for better.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
2/13/2020 11:37 am

    Quoting LeafReport:
    Yeah, erosion is such an enormous problem. You see it every single day in both television and in opinion pieces. I'm disappointed in Michael Moore. He made a huge mistake in getting on the Bernie Bus. I had hoped for better.
I watched last night on Netflicks "The Stranger" It was amazing.. Not only well done, not only a rational mystery, but it had a message..
The things we do for love..
The crazy, irrational, our the inabiltiy to self understand.. Awareness of and ability to understand one's own actions and reactions

As we conclude of other that hate is the motivating factor for irrationality .. it's love.
hate is far less irrational..Which gives an insight to Trump...Trump's motivation is hate... His supporters motivation is LOVE.. which I know to you sounds crazy..But you got to see the movie. You don't need to define love for other people... they do.


LeafReport 73M

2/13/2020 2:01 pm

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    I watched last night on Netflicks "The Stranger" It was amazing.. Not only well done, not only a rational mystery, but it had a message..
    The things we do for love..
    The crazy, irrational, our the inabiltiy to self understand.. Awareness of and ability to understand one's own actions and reactions

    As we conclude of other that hate is the motivating factor for irrationality .. it's love.
    hate is far less irrational..Which gives an insight to Trump...Trump's motivation is hate... His supporters motivation is LOVE.. which I know to you sounds crazy..But you got to see the movie. You don't need to define love for other people... they do.
That's odd...I happen to be watching that now...in 2 episodes. I'll get back to you. I'm going to wade into Pandemic tonight. For what it's worth I've been searching for something that really captures me. I didn't think it would be so hard to follow up with something after watching Bloodline. That was a hell of a story.

After hearing Chris Mathews talk about The Americans I checked that out on Amazon. That occupied me every night for weeks - 6 seasons I think. Others that interested me were The Ozarks, The Man in the High Castle, Colony, Secret City, Wanted and I highly recommend Damages. One I tried hard to stick with but just couldn't make it was The 100.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
2/13/2020 2:27 pm

    Quoting LeafReport:
    That's odd...I happen to be watching that now...in 2 episodes. I'll get back to you. I'm going to wade into Pandemic tonight. For what it's worth I've been searching for something that really captures me. I didn't think it would be so hard to follow up with something after watching Bloodline. That was a hell of a story.

    After hearing Chris Mathews talk about The Americans I checked that out on Amazon. That occupied me every night for weeks - 6 seasons I think. Others that interested me were The Ozarks, The Man in the High Castle, Colony, Secret City, Wanted and I highly recommend Damages. One I tried hard to stick with but just couldn't make it was The 100.
You got to make it through the first three episode. That sets the whole thing up. .It appears so disjointed...but it's not.The ending is surprising.. because you think you got it figured out. But it was truly a matter of reality. But even in reality.. it all plays outs....from all the disasters... as it should...We can be resilient.. Love can destroy but it also can conquer our fears.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
2/16/2020 1:15 pm

    Quoting LeafReport:
    Well I'm frustrated I'll admit that. It is time to get down and dirty. This latest thing with Stone is just the last straw with me. The senate is critical now. Super Tuesday is D- Day...LOL

    Remember The Longest Yard ...."Rules? What Rules?"
Well.. all I see is you are sucking is a "straw'.. because you don't have any "stones" left.

I always say.. if it's not coming.. I should stop beating my meat. lol