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jiminycricket1 70M
4896 posts
2/14/2020 9:03 am
The Truth About America..


Once you realize we are living a Lie...It's time to find out what the truth is..

The past can not find the truth in America.. only the future.

All this crap about candidates, About issues, About corruption..Doesn't matter anymore..

We need to define.. who we are and what we want. In regards to both :Liberal and Conservative Americans....Who we are and what we want is being interfered with.. But that is the nature of it all.
We deal with the view of Liberals and Conservative..As to foreign interference, but only in the terms of interference to each agenda. The indirect interference of Foreigners, like social media, and false statement and character assassination.. are but the same ploys of Liberals and Conservative..
Any real interference in regards to vote counting is the only foreign interference to consider.

Where it gets"sticky is the foreign interference that aids a Party.. to effect vote counting directly

That is the issue, that is what we are confronted with. That is the authoritarian assistance.that turns Us from a falsehood to a direct LIE.

there is only ONE issue that matter for this election.. to identify what is the truth and who is America. It's FAIR ELECTIONS
You may not like the results..but it needs to be the truth.


jiminycricket1 70M
12171 posts
2/14/2020 9:19 am

So what does that mean today...Well the things we talk about are in past.. who trump is... what he's like. What's been good or bad for the country. The issues have been beaten to death.. IF you don't know it by now, you'll never know it.

It's time to pay up or shut up..

Defining who we are and what we want..can only be done with FAIR elections..

I have absolutely NO DOUBT .. That Trump is planning to interfere with the election..by hook or crook...by cheating if necessary.... by using all his power of the presidency.. And his cronies are looking the other way

Does that mean that Trump is wrong...That Trump doesn't represent America.? Not necessarily..

Well the only way we can find out what the truth is.. is FAIR elections by the count.

I am willing to do that...Both Conservatives and Liberals.. need to assure Fair election.. to insure what is the truth..

Of course .. Democrats are being distracted from it. It's happening right now.. Democrats don't have to be ideologues.. They have to be WATCHDOGS.

Of course the irony is .. So should Republicans....But you can't count on them to do it.


jiminycricket1 70M
12171 posts
2/14/2020 9:37 am

We have to draw the line somewhere ...Liberals tell you that Trump lies and manipulates..he interferes with the Democrat primary as he would the general election. that is NO line to draw..
With our first amendment .. the liar is Not to blame.. It's the people willing to believe the lie.. so be it..that is our nature.
We need to determine who believe the Lie and who doesn't.. the results of a fair election determines the truth of that.
Trump's use power of the Presidency, to directly interfere with the elections is.. the LINE to be CROSSED.... IMPEACHABLE and treasonous. if he doesn't do that..then his lie becomes OUR TRUTH..Accept it, as the truth,
It's time to pay up or shut up.


jiminycricket1 70M
12171 posts
2/14/2020 12:10 pm

    Quoting  :

It doesn't matter who you vote for...If your vote doesn't count..whether it's a truth in the past doesn't matter.. whether we believed it as true then .. It only matter if we believe our vote counts now.

this is not what if..this is not about electoral over popular vote.. this is about cheating... this is the final straw about impeachment..Will Trump cheat the count to change the election result. Well, don't say because trump lies, or trump manipulates. that 's a given.. I mean out and out cheating using the power of the presidency to change to votes.

I guarantee what's going to happen..
If Trump wins he going to say he didn't cheat
If trump loses he going to say the Democrats cheated.

He's saying it now..How many times does one have to hear trump's accusations about someone that is self identifying.. It's simply amazing .. What trump does he accuses other people of doing.. Whether they did or not.


LeafReport 69M
4457 posts
2/14/2020 1:07 pm

I think this is your plea for somebody to put the toothpaste back in the tube. While you wander around figuring out HOW to do that, on a budget of a nickle when the cost is astronomical, your time would be better spent talking about the RESULTS to date of what happened in the last unfair election. America is already experiencing the dark cloud of the 'new' fascism rolling over cities from coast to coast. We can't squander any more time whining about fairness when the senate just refused to vote on legislation designed to assure just that. We obviously have to address the enormous problem of Trump's lies, cover ups and subversive motivation. We have to inform ignorant conservatives that they are done in America. We won't kill them of course, but we will have to kick them in the ass, likely several times because its a big ass.

In an episode of Dallas I will never forget one scene where Bobby was whining to Jock ...rambling on about the power Jock gave to him. Jock cut him off bluntly saying..."...real power is power you take...". That's where we are here. We need to the RESULT of a high voter turnout. I have confidence in that. If the American people are fed reality 24/7 with the persistence of a gnat fascism will dissipate almost overnight. If it takes 5 billion dollars to get rid of gnats and rats so be it. You'll be lucky to get one gnat with a nickel.


jiminycricket1 70M
12171 posts
2/14/2020 2:49 pm

    Quoting LeafReport:
    I think this is your plea for somebody to put the toothpaste back in the tube. While you wander around figuring out HOW to do that, on a budget of a nickle when the cost is astronomical, your time would be better spent talking about the RESULTS to date of what happened in the last unfair election. America is already experiencing the dark cloud of the 'new' fascism rolling over cities from coast to coast. We can't squander any more time whining about fairness when the senate just refused to vote on legislation designed to assure just that. We obviously have to address the enormous problem of Trump's lies, cover ups and subversive motivation. We have to inform ignorant conservatives that they are done in America. We won't kill them of course, but we will have to kick them in the ass, likely several times because its a big ass.

    In an episode of Dallas I will never forget one scene where Bobby was whining to Jock ...rambling on about the power Jock gave to him. Jock cut him off bluntly saying..."...real power is power you take...". That's where we are here. We need to the RESULT of a high voter turnout. I have confidence in that. If the American people are fed reality 24/7 with the persistence of a gnat fascism will dissipate almost overnight. If it takes 5 billion dollars to get rid of gnats and rats so be it. You'll be lucky to get one gnat with a nickel.
You just want a fricken excuse..

What my blog says.. is i got to deal with your lies and their lies.. That' s okay.. but I want to find out what OUR lies are.

If an election is completed and it is fair.. No cheating..Then will you accept the results not only the people chosen but the truth of it?
You won't.... you fear it too much.. If the election does not go your way...it won't be fair.

Well that's your lie.. Ironically Republican will have the same lie, if it doesn't go their way.


jiminycricket1 70M
12171 posts
2/14/2020 3:03 pm

    Quoting LeafReport:
    I think this is your plea for somebody to put the toothpaste back in the tube. While you wander around figuring out HOW to do that, on a budget of a nickle when the cost is astronomical, your time would be better spent talking about the RESULTS to date of what happened in the last unfair election. America is already experiencing the dark cloud of the 'new' fascism rolling over cities from coast to coast. We can't squander any more time whining about fairness when the senate just refused to vote on legislation designed to assure just that. We obviously have to address the enormous problem of Trump's lies, cover ups and subversive motivation. We have to inform ignorant conservatives that they are done in America. We won't kill them of course, but we will have to kick them in the ass, likely several times because its a big ass.

    In an episode of Dallas I will never forget one scene where Bobby was whining to Jock ...rambling on about the power Jock gave to him. Jock cut him off bluntly saying..."...real power is power you take...". That's where we are here. We need to the RESULT of a high voter turnout. I have confidence in that. If the American people are fed reality 24/7 with the persistence of a gnat fascism will dissipate almost overnight. If it takes 5 billion dollars to get rid of gnats and rats so be it. You'll be lucky to get one gnat with a nickel.
I label trump.....you label conservatives and republicans..You are the problem..
You have an automatic prejudice against conservatives and Republican..
You make it so there is no hope..
Bernie can label capitalism as the problem
Warren can label money as the problem
And you can label republicans and conservatives as the problem

It makes me sick to hear..
Not all capitalism is the problem
Not all money is the problem
And Not All Conservative and Republicans are the problem.

Don't tell when they say it, it's not what they mean.. that they mean only Part. If they only mean the part, say the part they mean

Rule number one.. when an Authoritarian tells you something... believe them.

Tell me you folks aren't authoritarian.. or that only fascists are authoritarian.

If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck .. It's a Duck.


sparkleflit 72F
6783 posts
2/14/2020 3:09 pm

I belong to a group of painters who get together once a week......Many of them are American ex-patriots....Some of them suggested we start a support-group for those of us who pay an inordinate amount of attention to American news.........


LeafReport 69M
4457 posts
2/15/2020 11:15 am

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    I label trump.....you label conservatives and republicans..You are the problem..
    You have an automatic prejudice against conservatives and Republican..
    You make it so there is no hope..
    Bernie can label capitalism as the problem
    Warren can label money as the problem
    And you can label republicans and conservatives as the problem

    It makes me sick to hear..
    Not all capitalism is the problem
    Not all money is the problem
    And Not All Conservative and Republicans are the problem.

    Don't tell when they say it, it's not what they mean.. that they mean only Part. If they only mean the part, say the part they mean

    Rule number one.. when an Authoritarian tells you something... believe them.

    Tell me you folks aren't authoritarian.. or that only fascists are authoritarian.

    If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck .. It's a Duck.
The only election result I haven't accepted are the ones where the winner of the popular vote didn't ascent to the presidency....the legitimate winners were Gore and Clinton. Giving the presidency to illegitimacy is exactly why we have, and had, the chaos that is destroying us.


LeafReport 69M
4457 posts
2/15/2020 11:17 am

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    I label trump.....you label conservatives and republicans..You are the problem..
    You have an automatic prejudice against conservatives and Republican..
    You make it so there is no hope..
    Bernie can label capitalism as the problem
    Warren can label money as the problem
    And you can label republicans and conservatives as the problem

    It makes me sick to hear..
    Not all capitalism is the problem
    Not all money is the problem
    And Not All Conservative and Republicans are the problem.

    Don't tell when they say it, it's not what they mean.. that they mean only Part. If they only mean the part, say the part they mean

    Rule number one.. when an Authoritarian tells you something... believe them.

    Tell me you folks aren't authoritarian.. or that only fascists are authoritarian.

    If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck .. It's a Duck.
Only fascists are authoritarian in the context of our discussion Cricket.


jiminycricket1 70M
12171 posts
2/16/2020 5:15 am

    Quoting LeafReport:
    The only election result I haven't accepted are the ones where the winner of the popular vote didn't ascent to the presidency....the legitimate winners were Gore and Clinton. Giving the presidency to illegitimacy is exactly why we have, and had, the chaos that is destroying us.
well... Justice Scalia once said ...you don't like my decision then change the law.......

so if you don't like the rules then change them,, but while you play the game now..You got to play by the rules we have.

the way i see it...is Trump and his supporters don't want to play by rules and neither do you.

After this weekend I made a decision about Bloomberg.. before I hadn't, I simply analyzed he had a better chance then any of the other candidates. The initial ads he put up, were good, they showed his general concern for the country.. But NOt now.. Now they are his specific campaign ads.. The ads. are misleading, and manipulative..and pandering of people of color.. I find it offensive.. and I now find him to more dishonest than ever thought before.
I judge each candidate by who will lie the most just to get elected.. He leads the pack by far..

Of course what i think, has little impact.. and he still has the best chance, but I am personally disappointed.


jiminycricket1 70M
12171 posts
2/16/2020 5:30 am

Hillary Clinton for VP.... WTF?
It's hard to teach an old dog new trick.. I tend to revert back.
so what is that..
Well first .. I don't believe that the sky if falling.
I would rather lose with Buttigieg, than win with Bernie Bloomberg.. I keep wanting to teach people lessons.
I would rather Warren beats Bernie Bloomberg and take my chances in the general.
I would rather Win with Amy Klobuchar. I wish that snowball could keep rolling through HELL.


jiminycricket1 70M
12171 posts
2/16/2020 5:42 am

I honestly believe that Trump fears Bloomberg the most, in regards to how they both do business they are two peas in pod.. with almost equal power.
Trump least fears is the honest do-gooder..he gets to abuse them, and they don't know how to fight back.
the honest do-gooder needs OUR help.... And what this country has proven over the last three years...is we can't stand up, stand behind, and stand counted for honest do-gooders.


jiminycricket1 70M
12171 posts
2/16/2020 6:26 am

when Biden fell on his face, and proved he wasn't the MAN we thought he was..
I still hung on to my old analyzing prejudices..Being the Man that I am.
I believe after Hillary we couldn't handle another women running..in the next election.
I saw a Jeanne Kirkpatrick and a Madeleine Albright.. and thought they could be president.. Never felt that way about Hillary..
But i guess timing is everything..In a way I needed a total standout of a women to elect her.
but the timing has changed.. and this Democrat field has proven it to me.. It may not be time for a women.. But when I think of Warren, Klobuchar, and Harris.. Any one of them stands head and shoulder above the men in this field.
Amy Klobuchar may only be five foot four, but then again all we have is "little" men in this field.... not "Little Women"

NOW maybe it's not possible..but I think so.. the idea of bringing down Trump with a women. is tantamount to the end of Trumpism .. You people totally miss the point ..Issues and ideology don't matter to him..so how can you fight Trump on that? You want to send a message, change the country,, you don't have to do anything else but elect a women.


LeafReport 69M
4457 posts
2/17/2020 7:02 pm

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    well... Justice Scalia once said ...you don't like my decision then change the law.......

    so if you don't like the rules then change them,, but while you play the game now..You got to play by the rules we have.

    the way i see it...is Trump and his supporters don't want to play by rules and neither do you.

    After this weekend I made a decision about Bloomberg.. before I hadn't, I simply analyzed he had a better chance then any of the other candidates. The initial ads he put up, were good, they showed his general concern for the country.. But NOt now.. Now they are his specific campaign ads.. The ads. are misleading, and manipulative..and pandering of people of color.. I find it offensive.. and I now find him to more dishonest than ever thought before.
    I judge each candidate by who will lie the most just to get elected.. He leads the pack by far..

    Of course what i think, has little impact.. and he still has the best chance, but I am personally disappointed.
Both of those elections were corrupt that's the difference here.