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jiminycricket1 74M
5535 posts
2/18/2020 9:47 am
Democracy... Your's, Mine, and Ours


We try make Trump important as what he says and does.
It is...But not in the way people thin
Trump is just a symptom and the symbol of OUR lost Democracy.

It has never really been just OUR Democracy.. but the struggles in the past have been held together by OUR Democracy. It has always been Your Democracy and My Democracy.

There were things.. Like Honor, Duty, Patriotism, Decency, Respect, and Trust..that above all else was the Hallmark of OUR Democracy. It held together Your Democracy and MY Democracy. A democracy can't exist without it.

Those that understood that and the challenges it would present.. Knew the folly of Democracy.

"As I would not be a slave, so I would not be a master. This expresses my idea of democracy.” – Abraham Lincoln, 16th President of the United States"

"jingoism, racism, fear, religious fundamentalism: these are the ways of appealing to people if you’re trying to organize a mass base of support for policies that are really intended to crush them.” – Noam Chomsky

"foolish leaders of Democracy, which is a charming form of government, full of variety and disorder, and dispensing a sort of equality to equals and unequaled alike." Plato

Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There is never a democracy that did not commit suicide. Adams

It is one of the evils of democratical governments, that the people, not always seeing and frequently misled, must often feel before they can act right; but then evil of this nature seldom fail to work their own cure.. Washington


Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths." Madison

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Jefferson

"I will support the needy...but I will not support the Lazy; Unknown, various

A Typical illogical, mindless drab....An issue of the destruction of OUR democracy...
I love that last statement as it is totally self defeating..Translation.. I will not support the needy.. because I will not support the lazy.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
2/18/2020 10:17 am

So we are left with the struggles of just Your Democracy and My Democracy. There is no longer OUR democracy..

Your democracy has been subjected to people who Lie, enable, corrupt, and fight a fight you are against.. And Steal

In your Democracy.. Trump enables YOU, a champion for YOU, a liar who lies for YOU, A fighter who fights for YOU...He is a thief who steals for you...A rule breaker who breaks rules for YOU. Trump is the condemnation of Robin Hood.
A democracy of overdue justice.....who now steals from poor and gives it back to the rich..Where it's always belonged in YOUR DEMOCRACY

In My democracy.. Trump is total asshole.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
2/18/2020 11:05 am

The founding Father may have understood this time would come..Where there no longer could be... We The People..
where the frailty of Our democracy would succumb.
Where when we believed there would no longer be slaves.. There could only be masters
Where ignorance, self centeredness, prejudices, victim-hood, and fear.. would finally destroy the great experiment.
So now we know..
Our Democracy is lost
What's to come of it? Well, it won't be a matter of ideology..
It will be how much recovery we can make is regards to decency, respect, trust, Honor, Duty, and patriotism.
but it can NEVER be the same.
We may not know of the beginnings of OUR democracy..But we have been granted the privilege to know it's end.

The Revolution, the Civil war, the industrial revolution. WWI and WW II.. Great moments in American history.......But none of those will compare to the great moment in American History we are now living.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
2/18/2020 12:05 pm

    Quoting  :

Well i got to believe trump can't complete what he's doing.. it will end..
But we have to deal with our overreaction.. which could deals with
trump's policies instead of principles
that is the real loss I fear.. His administration, and his supporters, and the Republican senate.. has nothing to do Trumps policies it has to do with principles.. It's the difference between the what and the how. Trump has purposely cause our lack of decency, our lack of integrity, our lack of Trust, our lack of respect...It is not in his policies that destroys Democracy..It's his destruction of those principles, that hold Our democracy together

I'm not against Bernie Sanders policies.. I am against Bernie making his policies more viable, because of trump policies.. one has nothing to do with the other.
I'm against Bernie's use of disrespect and distrust of the trump opposition of capitalism and wealth to move his policies.

It may not be as bad as Trump but it's the same thing.


TxJW_M 81M

2/18/2020 6:54 pm

Ok Block---Whatever you say------We can all vote-----Hopefully we will eliminate the evil upon us at the next election.


LeafReport 73M

2/19/2020 2:17 am

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Oh shut up Bigblock. Get out of that bathroom perversion of yours and actually comprehend what is going on here.


LeafReport 73M

2/19/2020 2:24 am

It's a huge mess Cricket. I just cannot imagine another 4 years of this chaos.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
2/19/2020 9:31 am

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The idea of the singularity of a Republic, and not a Democracy,. is not only narrowminded to the Constitution, it's indicative of your prejudice,. not as a form of government, but to enhance the policies you want. A Republic by it's nature, can be counter to a democracy. and you like that idea. When our Constitution is pretty clear the our Republic is not counter to a Democracy.. It purpose is to protect our Democracy
The idea of a Republic is like the three branches of government, the checks and balance...all Designed, to NOT protect a Republic, but provide check and balance to Our Democracy.
WE are both a Democracy and a Republic.. that's the design of the Constitution.
You can't change that, because it suits you... but here's the true irony.. Only Our Democracy can change it.