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jiminycricket1 74M
5508 posts
9/4/2023 6:03 am
Bye bye Miss American Pie


"Bye Bye Miss American Pie". Don McClean
Wrote this song ten years after the plane crash that killed buddy Holly, the Big Booper and Richie Valens. He never really explained why he wrote it and what it's about.
I listen to some reaction videos on You tube, Although people liked the song, they didn't get it. Although they didn't know, but would realized it when they were told that "the day the music died" was when the plane crashed happened.
There are plenty of references in the song of what happened after the plane crash and songs written after that time.
Although it was obvious to me, I forgot one must have to live through it to understand it.
The songs is loaded with metaphors about what music means. Death takes many forms.
The day the music died was about the loss of innocence.
The closest I can come to it, and explain it, is though the Beatles. The greatest musical influencers of a generation. Whose complete journey from "I Want to Hold Your Hand" to "Let it Be" explains "Bye Bye Miss American Pie" and our loss of innocence.

jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
9/4/2023 6:09 am

There's a reason I posted this.
Generatiosn that have followed us, have never lived through it.

The music today failed to let them realize what innocence is. They never learned how to deal with reality through a process, but how to avoid it.


StarCandy1 69F
1797 posts
9/4/2023 8:42 am

It's so true and scary to think. I think now they just Google to feel. Things they r missing..... Good music, opening up a book to find out information (encylopedia), going to church, having to do without, going out to play games, so many things


TxJW043 81M

9/4/2023 1:40 pm

I remember the day the music died well.
Back then new songs were being released at a fast pace.
Our local radio station had a request time each day so we teenagers could call in and request a song for our main squeeze. LOL

When that plane crashed the request program had few callers for a long time. Our hearts were not into it.

Teenagers would park out on country roads ---listen to music----- We always assumed the levee in your song was the favorite park/ smooch place in Lubbock. Interest in the levee died with the music.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
9/4/2023 7:34 pm

    Quoting TxJW043:
    I remember the day the music died well.
    Back then new songs were being released at a fast pace.
    Our local radio station had a request time each day so we teenagers could call in and request a song for our main squeeze. LOL

    When that plane crashed the request program had few callers for a long time. Our hearts were not into it.

    Teenagers would park out on country roads ---listen to music----- We always assumed the levee in your song was the favorite park/ smooch place in Lubbock. Interest in the levee died with the music.
"Good ol boys drinking whiskey and rye singing this will be the day that I die"
Whiskey and Rye that's a loss of innocence. It's basically what the song about.
Each verse explains events and songs that no longer brought happiness, smiles and dancing and youth exuberance. The youth of the time through music got a slap of reality and how America wasn't all Apple Pie.
Don McClean first slap of reality was when Buddy Holly died. he could never go back and feel the same way again.


TxJW043 81M

9/4/2023 11:30 pm

The music died in 59.------- Then in 1960 Roy Orbison became popular. Teenagers could not get enough of Orbison's unusual style. It will never be copied.

Those Texas guys changed the music and we were surrounded by it.
Party On!


maudie1957 74F
1262 posts
9/5/2023 12:01 am

A very sad day for music lovers for sure . At least we can still listen and enjoy all the great songs of that time.


maudie1957 74F
1262 posts
9/5/2023 12:15 am

    Quoting TxJW043:
    The music died in 59.------- Then in 1960 Roy Orbison became popular. Teenagers could not get enough of Orbison's unusual style. It will never be copied.

    Those Texas guys changed the music and we were surrounded by it.
    Party On!
What a fantastic voice Roy had. He had so much tragedy in his life too. I find some some of his songs very beautiful but filled with sadness, they never fail to make me cry. Of all his songs" Pretty Woman" is my favourite.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
9/7/2023 5:33 am

    Quoting maudie1957:
    A very sad day for music lovers for sure . At least we can still listen and enjoy all the great songs of that time.
For Don McClean it wasn't about the music dying..It was about American pie dying. How when Buddy Holly the music stopped being FUN and how we lost our innocence. About what America was suppose to mean the and events that disproved that through the music we listened to.
Of course, that's a part of growing up, but the political and social influencers of the time , became less about politics and more about the music.


TxJW043 81M

9/7/2023 3:07 pm

I was in high school in 57. Got out in 61.
The Russians scared the hell out of the U.S. with Sputnik into space orbit.

As teenagers we were completely into the music UNTIL that plane crash.
It showed once again that we were vulnerable.

Texas instruments was into developing the transistor for the space race which brought about our computers that we didn't know how to use until Bill Gates invented software. LOL

For me it has always been about the music.
I would go to sleep each night listening to my dad practice on one of the many instruments he could play.

He would often pause and say---- listen to THIS------ play a distinct way---- then tell me if dancing---- you would step to THAT part.------ usually the bass.

In grade school we had endured atomic bomb drills often. To be prepared for when the Russians would bomb us. An alarm would go off and we would march single file out of the building. ------- stand out there until they sounded the all cleat alarm.

So in high school bomb drills stopped and music soothed our sole UNTIL the day the music died.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
9/17/2023 1:18 am

Yes... For a generation lost in "space" who still haven't found their way home.