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bondjam33 70M
881 posts
3/15/2020 8:33 am
Virus preparations according to Boris

Boris telling it like it is


bondjam33 70M
840 posts
3/15/2020 8:34 am

Put your trust in Boris.


bondjam33 70M
840 posts
3/15/2020 12:40 pm

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It is a paraphrase of what he said but I heard the speech live and it is only slightly exaggerated for comic effect.

Here is a partial transcript

And it’s going to spread further and I must level with you, level with the British public, many more families are going to lose loved ones before their time. And the Chief Scientific Adviser will set out the best information we have on that in a moment.

But as we’ve said over the last few weeks, we have a clear plan that we are now working through.

And we are now moving to the next phase in that plan.

Because this is now not just to attempt to contain the disease as far as possible, but to delay its spread and thereby minimise the suffering. If we delay the peak even by a few weeks, then our NHS will be in a stronger state as the weather improves and fewer people suffer from normal respiratory diseases, more beds are available and we’ll have more time for medical research.

We can also act to stretch the peak of the disease over a longer period so that our society is better able to cope.

The Chief Medical Officer will set out our lines of defence. We have to deploy these at the right time to maximise their effect. The most important task will be to protect our elderly and most vulnerable people during the peak weeks when there is the maximum risk of exposure to the disease and when the NHS will be under the most pressure. So the most dangerous period is not now but some weeks away depending on how fast it spreads.


Archer62 83F
7102 posts
3/16/2020 7:13 am

I HATE TO SAY IT, BIT I AM BEGINNING TO WONDER WHO IS RIGHT. THE VIRUS IS AIRBORNE, IT IS SPREAD FROM PERSON TO PERSON BUT ALSO BY WIND SO WHAT USE IS THE LOCKDOWN? ASIDER FROM TRIGGERING MASSIVE PANIC? LIMITING GATHERINGS IS ONE THING, MAKING STAY INSIDE HOME WHERE THE AIR INSIDE IS MORE POLLUTED THAN THE AIR OUTSIDE, IS QUITE ANOTHER.


bondjam33 70M
840 posts
3/16/2020 8:49 am

    Quoting Archer62:
    I HATE TO SAY IT, BIT I AM BEGINNING TO WONDER WHO IS RIGHT. THE VIRUS IS AIRBORNE, IT IS SPREAD FROM PERSON TO PERSON BUT ALSO BY WIND SO WHAT USE IS THE LOCKDOWN? ASIDER FROM TRIGGERING MASSIVE PANIC? LIMITING GATHERINGS IS ONE THING, MAKING STAY INSIDE HOME WHERE THE AIR INSIDE IS MORE POLLUTED THAN THE AIR OUTSIDE, IS QUITE ANOTHER.
The virus is not 'borne by the wind.'
There is still debate about whether it is carried 2,3 or up to 5 m by sneezing but the virus is not spread like pollen on the wind.
Preventing movement reduces contacts between people and reduces the number of potential transmission nodes. If you study the mechanism of propagation of viruses you will find that reducing the number of potential contacts the mot effective way of smoothing out the normal geometric progression of infection; vital to the effective treatment of epidemic diseases.


bondjam33 70M
840 posts
3/16/2020 12:04 pm

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I have read three scientific papers and commentaries so far. This is my synopsis of what I have read. I still have a couple more to go


myseek1 80F
1376 posts
3/16/2020 5:15 pm

I say, the virus was "born" to complete the "Great Transformation". This gives governments the chance to keep people in control, another step toward OWG. I have read a lot about the virus and corona in general, listened to speeches of virologists and renown scientists. And, by the way, Gates talked in a meeting last year about an epidemic that might arise in the next future.
Germany: lockdown, too. Think of the consequences!


Happiness is when what you think, what you say, what you do are in harmony - M. Gandhi


Maudie1 74F
8151 posts
3/17/2020 1:51 am

I think Ireland is on the verge of complete lockdown too. Very worrying times indeed. Interesting read Bondjam.


bondjam33 70M
840 posts
3/17/2020 11:09 am

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One world government -- it is a popular conspiracy theory - along with the Illuminati and the Lizard people/Aliens who control the world's leaders.


myseek1 80F
1376 posts
3/17/2020 1:10 pm

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One World Government means the same like the New World Order. I am not into the Illuminati and Aliens, etc. NWO is no conspiracy, even some mainstream politicians talk about the Great Transformation which will cause inevitable "collateral damage".
Globalization is part of it. Now we see the side effects when production of food and almost all items we need in our daily life are outsourced, even pharmaceutical products. Listen to what G. Friedman, Think-Tank STRATFOR (Chicago) has to say.
Douglas Murray "The Death Of Europe" book and several videos with his reflections. There are many other renown investigative journalists, historians..........
I don't accept "It is what it is" but ask Why, Who, What, When. The virus won't be our end but the crisis arising from it will have an impact.


Happiness is when what you think, what you say, what you do are in harmony - M. Gandhi


myseek1 80F
1376 posts
3/17/2020 9:21 pm

    Quoting bondjam33:
    One world government -- it is a popular conspiracy theory - along with the Illuminati and the Lizard people/Aliens who control the world's leaders.
I suggest that you read the UN Agenda 21/30, you can download the document and learn about what the plan is. Take your time and read the 351 pages. Then you know that the One World Order is not a conspiracy theory. Too few people know about what is happening.

Happiness is when what you think, what you say, what you do are in harmony - M. Gandhi


bondjam33 70M
840 posts
3/18/2020 3:33 am

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The plan to impose a One World Government is so secret that they published it IN FULL in 1992.
I have a PDF download of the document, it is a blueprint to establish economic development to benefit underdeveloped nations and an attempt to encourage sustainable development, non-discriminatory trade and to reduce protectionist policies which negatively impact the third world.
The main focus of the plan is to reduce third world countries' reliance on loans and to encourage richer nations to forgive debts so that third world nations can invest in their own development.
Anyone who can interpret a VOLUNTARY (i.e. non binding) policy to level up the international economic playing field and encourage sustainable development world wide, openly distributed in full almost 30 years ago, as an attempt to set up a one world government has been listening to too much Rush Limbaugh etc. in my opinion.


myseek1 80F
1376 posts
3/18/2020 11:56 am

    Quoting bondjam33:
    The plan to impose a One World Government is so secret that they published it IN FULL in 1992.
    I have a PDF download of the document, it is a blueprint to establish economic development to benefit underdeveloped nations and an attempt to encourage sustainable development, non-discriminatory trade and to reduce protectionist policies which negatively impact the third world.
    The main focus of the plan is to reduce third world countries' reliance on loans and to encourage richer nations to forgive debts so that third world nations can invest in their own development.
    Anyone who can interpret a VOLUNTARY (i.e. non binding) policy to level up the international economic playing field and encourage sustainable development world wide, openly distributed in full almost 30 years ago, as an attempt to set up a one world government has been listening to too much Rush Limbaugh etc. in my opinion.
I admire your trusting heart, Bond. There is much more to it,as you well know. Why are things kept so secret? Why do people think they cannot discuss openly the subject geoengineering, 5G technology. The "non binding" wording does not mean anything, just makes it sound good. Those countries that signed the paper act accordingly. And you can see it on the European continent. You see the change of educational standards, schools and universities - UNESCO. You can see the economical crash in Europe, with rising poverty and more and more restrictions, surveillance. Those who criticize political actions are being harassed by left leaning groups and the antifa. they come in the dark, damage properties, put cars on fire........ publish addresses of opposing persons, people loose their jobs when they are not mainstream. That has nothing to do with Rush Limbaugh. You are from GB. How much do the people know over there?

Happiness is when what you think, what you say, what you do are in harmony - M. Gandhi


bondjam33 70M
840 posts
3/18/2020 1:40 pm

    Quoting myseek1:
    I admire your trusting heart, Bond. There is much more to it,as you well know. Why are things kept so secret? Why do people think they cannot discuss openly the subject geoengineering, 5G technology. The "non binding" wording does not mean anything, just makes it sound good. Those countries that signed the paper act accordingly. And you can see it on the European continent. You see the change of educational standards, schools and universities - UNESCO. You can see the economical crash in Europe, with rising poverty and more and more restrictions, surveillance. Those who criticize political actions are being harassed by left leaning groups and the antifa. they come in the dark, damage properties, put cars on fire........ publish addresses of opposing persons, people loose their jobs when they are not mainstream. That has nothing to do with Rush Limbaugh. You are from GB. How much do the people know over there?
I am sorry but your post is pure gobbledygook.I have no difficulty discussing geoengineering or 5G technology, other than finding people who know anything about it to join in the discussion.

What change in educational standards? My daughter is just finishing University with a first class honours and a Masters degree, try telling her that she has not been working at a high enough level to deserve them.
The economic crash right now is the product of present uncertainty, exacerbated by the deliberate and criminal lack of action from the mango moron in the White House - the economic bubble of the last 3 years has been largely the result of the policies of RIGHT WING governments (just as it was in 1929 and in 200.
Harassed by left leaning groups? You are either joking or deluded. "People lose their jobs when they are not mainstream" - Translates as - bigots should be allowed to parade their bigotry; racism and discrimination should be allowed without penalty. I am sorry but people who spout hatred of others and wish to discriminate against them deserve all they get.
It does have a lot to do with the right wing control of the media in the US - Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Faux noise, Breitbart, right wing talk (hate) radio. The unfettered push towards Nazism, power at any cost, religious mania in the GOP is the dangerous gun barrel down which the democracy of the US is presently staring. The rise of Nationalism in many countries is the most pressing problem facing western democracies - I am not surprised that moves towards cooperation between governments would alarm those who wish to foster distrust between nations.
"There is much more to it" - true, there is a desire to reduce inequality between nations and repair the massive damage brought about by colonialism. There is a desire to reduce the damage being wreaked on the planet by unfettered capitalism, to safeguard the planet for our children and their children.
I am from the UK -- people here are much better informed and much less propagandised than the US but still influenced by right wing press. If your reference was an attempt to patronise then I would advise you to look to your own laurels or lack of rather than trying to besmirch those of people whose knowledge and understanding of the subject you do not know.

Your initial sentence drips with condescension - your final sentence is patronising unless I miss my guess. I do not have a trusting heart but I do have a heart, and I do have considerable empathy towards my fellow man. I can also read with comprehension and I am not swayed by hate filled scare mongering.