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bijou624

10/12/2017 8:39 am

It's scary to watch Trump's heartless and dangerous behaviour on a daily basis and even scarier has been to listen to Repub politicians defend him and make excuses for him. All they seem to care about is keeping their jobs and getting re-elected. Luckily Congress is working on a Bill to prevent Trump from being able to unilaterally order a nuclear bomb to be dispatched. Trump and his stupid lies about journalists spreading 'fake news' is so sickening. Is he trying to make the U.S. into another North Korea and ban journalists altogether?? What a con man.


jiminycricket1 74M
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10/12/2017 1:55 pm

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The key word is threaten......

Absolutely....It's what Trump does.

blackmail, coercion collusion, manipulation, advantage taking... call it whatever you want.....The man thinks he can get away with anything, say anything and do anything.

Today's speech about healthcare, did nothing but try to blackmail, and coerce. Democrats and Republicans, to conform to Trump's wish on healthcare.
he talked about great it was....It was nothing, that can stand on it's down, that can make healthcare better. It's a tactic and a ploy, not to be judged on it's merits, but to judged by it's effectiveness of coercion. It's a use of power for power sake.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
10/13/2017 12:27 am

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You say that like I'm going to disagree, but what I think it about doesn't matter.

The Clintons COULD be guilty. It's possible. The point is you believe them to be so. that's okay, believe it. What does that mean in regards to Trump?

The Clintons did it, so it's okay for Trump to do it.
Or....
People incorrectly believe the Clinton's didn't do it, So now you can believe that Trump isn't doing it.

I don't understand the logic....


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
10/13/2017 1:18 am

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Will differ a little in how we view these things.

Getting rid of Trump, taking the guns, stopping voter suppression, Obamacare, racism, and immigration.....all good ideas... that don't solve anything.

The disease is so deep seated getting rid of the symptoms does no good.

The merits of what you would want to do, can be argued, and certainly can be applied incorrectly.

I honestly don't care what people do about the symptoms.

Curing the disease is my issue, not the symptoms. The disease doesn't follow partylines.
It effects all humans. Liberal or Conservative.

For me it's obvious and easy to understand... which brings me to the first reason.
Having an open mind.... TRYING to understand all sides.

An agreement to the facts..
That a person's ideology must conform to the facts...... and Not the facts conform to a person's ideology.

That we judge others as we judge ourselves. Understand what you are doing, understand your goal, and understand your motivation.. before you pass judgment on others. The idea that others don't see or don't understand what they are doing or are being propagandized, and misdirected, is okay, only if you know what YOU are doing, understand what YOU are doing, and know YOU are not being propagandized or misdirected. Too many of US tell others they don't know what they are doing. When it fact, we don't know what we are doing.

Trump has made very few honest comments. But one stand outs, after pounding the idea of Repeal and Replace Obamacare.. He said.. It's was complicated. That honesty has now been forgotten. Which is indicative of what kind of man he is.

Well in regard to fixing this country, and the simple thoughts that go along with it.
I got something say... It's complicated.

My comment to JKH was exactly that....judging others, without judging himself.
It not my logic, I'm talking about... it's his logic. I am not questioning the alleged facts, I'm questioning what he's doing with those fact. Not what it means to me, but what it means to him?

I have made it clear I'm against labeling.. that is, taking a part of the whole and using it to describe the whole. I'm not blind, to it uses.... It's not just the Right, the Left does it too.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
10/13/2017 3:08 pm

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Well that's why we differ a LITTLE.

too much emphasis on throwing out the baby with the dirty bath water. Using the disease to get rid of the disease.
I'm not opposite of your thinking . but I just get a bad feeling when their necessity becomes your necessity to combat it. You see their short term gains, I see the long term loss. You think, you have to tell them what the truth is, but fact is.... if you really know what the truth is...You don't have to tell anybody. The truth will tell them eventually.
The difference between us, is that you fear they have it. I know they don't
You believe what they think can infect Us. I don't. Nothing has really changed for me.
You see cockroaches in the open, and bring out the RAID... I see the cockroaches have always been there. I welcome them...to come out , come out, where ever they are. The king cockroach is leading them into the open. What Trump doesn't understand is what he was able to get away with in hiding.. he can't get away with in the open.