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jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
10/27/2018 12:06 pm

I have changed my attitude.. I have seen the light..

No one seems to 'get it".. like my mansplaining.... no one seems understand.. what WE do and What they do.. It's taken me two years to figure it out.. What your and my blogs means to them.

It is their victory and it is their goal...It never been about the truth, or this country.

The revel in the fact WE hate Trump....That is their victory, that is their goal..
THEY WANT US TO HATE TRUMP.
They feed it to us, and we eat it up.


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
10/27/2018 12:52 pm

The thing is I watched Bill Maher last night.. he had two guests that were just amazing.

One.... about kids born after 1995.... And the negative effect to them that has been thrown upon them. It was amazing .. but that's for another time to be discussed. doesn't quite fit here.

Second... was Anthony Scaramucci..who, to my amazement, tried to tell the whole truth...They just swept him under the rug. I believed him.. I believed every word he said.. Those liberal yahoos.. didn't want to listen.. Anyway, what he said, has been the subject of all my blog response today.. It's been the reason for my change in attitude.

He said a couple of things..
First, Trump plays the media.. and the media is too stupid and goes along..The story of the caravan being political is what Trump wants.. either choice doesn't matter... It's The 'big picture". The view from the top and not the bottom.. When the media should focus on the bottom.. not the political aspect, but the human aspect.. My god, I almost fell over.
Like the blog I just posted, it about the media USING the TRUTH to prove the LIE.. Instead.. letting the facts prove the LIE. Human FACTS about the caravan prove the lie. Not the political Truth. You don't need to USE the Truth.. You need to show the truth, and let people make up their own mind

Second.. he tried to explain, What Trump does is not in regards to the thing he's doing... but in regards to reaction to what he's doing. The more YOU react.. the more you're doing what he wants.. The more his supporters get what they want.. Again I almost fell over...


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
10/27/2018 1:28 pm

It's so obvious to me.. what the media should do about the caravan... Take a few of those people .. get their stories from Honduras.... follow their walk.... and what that walk entails.. take it border and show what happens.. That's it, no commentary, just show the facts..


hobsonschoice 75F
3600 posts
10/27/2018 6:25 pm

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    It's so obvious to me.. what the media should do about the caravan... Take a few of those people .. get their stories from Honduras.... follow their walk.... and what that walk entails.. take it border and show what happens.. That's it, no commentary, just show the facts..
It wouldn't matter, someone would claim they were plants paid for by Soros, oh wait I think that was already done.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
10/27/2018 9:27 pm

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    It's so obvious to me.. what the media should do about the caravan... Take a few of those people .. get their stories from Honduras.... follow their walk.... and what that walk entails.. take it border and show what happens.. That's it, no commentary, just show the facts..
That's pretty naive.......you think that filming a bunch of people walking and speaking languages most Americans don't understand will make it all clear?


sewg1941 82F

10/27/2018 10:15 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    That's pretty naive.......you think that filming a bunch of people walking and speaking languages most Americans don't understand will make it all clear?
sparkle it just might work. It has to be simple...just video ... no commentary whatsoever... just let the video speak for itself.

Trump is the one making all the noise ... he and his base after he's worked them into a frenzy. He's playing his base like a violin. Use Trump against himself. Could work!!


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
10/28/2018 5:29 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    That's pretty naive.......you think that filming a bunch of people walking and speaking languages most Americans don't understand will make it all clear?
You shouldn't use a part to label the whole..
Of course, some Trump supporters will believe anything they want.. No evidence required. They are not going to Change
But still there are some who just forget the Human aspect and think only politically.
If The media just tells the story, and Never mentions how the story relates to politics. If Trump supporters get to know some of these people walking.. It could make a huge difference.
In fact for some Trump supporters it will make a huge difference...In understanding the LIE. It's the ONLY way to have them NOT think politically. Once politics is mentioned or Trump is mentioned..It's over.. It shuts down

Think of this .. Would FOX NEWS ever do a story like that....NEVER.. that's all you need to know.


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
10/28/2018 5:47 am

    Quoting hobsonschoice:
    It wouldn't matter, someone would claim they were plants paid for by Soros, oh wait I think that was already done.
Same comment .. i made to sparkle..

Show how Soros.. if he is helping them.. with food, and medical, and other necessities.. show it. Don't cover it up....Whatever there is... show it.


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
10/28/2018 6:06 am

    Quoting  :

Do you think getting upset and pissed off.. BECAUSE you know what the Truth is..

Does any good?

Do you think you have to explain.. what is the truth? That the truth NEEDS explanation. When you're dealing with people who don't care about the truth..

You see, you're not doing anything to them. They are doing it to YOU.


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
10/28/2018 6:32 am

    Quoting sewg1941:
    sparkle it just might work. It has to be simple...just video ... no commentary whatsoever... just let the video speak for itself.

    Trump is the one making all the noise ... he and his base after he's worked them into a frenzy. He's playing his base like a violin. Use Trump against himself. Could work!!
I would use three different kinds of people and follow them throughout... A family , a single parent, and a single young adult.. I would use translation, if necessary... You must let people get to know them specifically. I would not pick and choose..Report the good and the bad. You see.. that makes it REAL.. follow them all the way to the border...Then let people what happens to them at the border......That makes what happens to them REAL.. that makes what WE do to them.. REAL

However, Some people will NEVER see them as REAL people...That's the problem with this country...... They will Never see the story, they will Never look...Those people try to create a country.. of elite...No humanity, No compassion, No empathy, and No respect.... NO RETREAT....NO SURRENDER. They aren't the majority.. it's not even close..but they carry a "Big Stick"
The media is their enemy....and more important ..WE are their enemy.. You can't talk to them, show them, or explain anything to them...They just want to destroy their enemy.. And WE are... their enemy.


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
10/28/2018 6:56 am

Some people think, That Trump's Lie.. is a design to complete what he wants.. Designed to convince his followers

It has nothing to do with that..

For Trump his Lie is NOT to facilitate what he wants..
HIS Lie.. is a WEAPON.
His followers know it.. they know it's not the truth...It doesn't CONVINCE them of anything.
But his followers, accept and understand what we don't... His lies are a WEAPON against the opposition.

"CNN SUCKS", "LOCK HER UP."....What do you think that mean? It's not REAL, but they still say it.. over and over again.. why?...
Because...It's a WEAPON. That stabs you in the heart, every time you hear it..


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
10/28/2018 7:26 am

An interesting story happened in the newsroom, about Trump supporters...About how the CNN news people can talk to trump supporters outside the rally.....Trump supporter treat the reporter with respect. they want to talk to them..

But once that reporter gets into the rally.. It all Changes..They become the enemy..
You see, it's not real.. the rally, the chants..Those things are WEAPONS, against their opposition...If nobody listened..They would never say it.. They want the reporters to listen to it, and report it. Only Trump gets away with saying it as an individual.. but as a group....they all grab a hold of that weapon.

Of course the problem is...some nut, like the "bomber".. thinks it's real., and that weapon.. just ain't good enough.


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
10/28/2018 7:32 am

sorry.. Skariif.. I just got a carried away.. I shouldn't have done that on YOUR blog..


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
10/28/2018 1:42 pm

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    I would use three different kinds of people and follow them throughout... A family , a single parent, and a single young adult.. I would use translation, if necessary... You must let people get to know them specifically. I would not pick and choose..Report the good and the bad. You see.. that makes it REAL.. follow them all the way to the border...Then let people what happens to them at the border......That makes what happens to them REAL.. that makes what WE do to them.. REAL

    However, Some people will NEVER see them as REAL people...That's the problem with this country...... They will Never see the story, they will Never look...Those people try to create a country.. of elite...No humanity, No compassion, No empathy, and No respect.... NO RETREAT....NO SURRENDER. They aren't the majority.. it's not even close..but they carry a "Big Stick"
    The media is their enemy....and more important ..WE are their enemy.. You can't talk to them, show them, or explain anything to them...They just want to destroy their enemy.. And WE are... their enemy.
It would have to be shown prime-time on Fox......many, many times. The people whose hearts you long to soften will call it Left Wing Propaganda and dismiss it......never watch ........You can bill it as anything you want, but what Trump supporter, who has already been inoculated with the Fear Immigrants bug will sit and watch a non-commentary commentary of people walking?


starwomyn 70F
8871 posts
10/28/2018 6:38 pm

Caravans are nothing new. This one is getting 11th hour Media attention. The difference is that Trump is saying "Come in LEGALLY!!!"

The scenerio has been the same for years. The Sneak-In's sneak in and the President grants them amnesty. More Sneak-In's sneak in and the next President grants them amnesty. Ad Infinitum.

Trump is the first president to say "Stop!" This is not fair to the immigrants who are waiting lists and jumping through hoops to get here legally.


Abracadabra


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
10/29/2018 7:25 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    It would have to be shown prime-time on Fox......many, many times. The people whose hearts you long to soften will call it Left Wing Propaganda and dismiss it......never watch ........You can bill it as anything you want, but what Trump supporter, who has already been inoculated with the Fear Immigrants bug will sit and watch a non-commentary commentary of people walking?
The failure is in the HOW not the what.....As You talk about the what...They don;'t care...But they listen and read..Why?

They don't care about what you say, only the meaning of HOW you say....they will search for the flaws in what you say...but not in the context of what you mean.
No matter what you say. HOW you say it is their justification. The "Liberal News Media".. does the same thing for them..It not what they say but the point of why they are saying it.
So it doesn't matter to them WHAT you blame Trump for... It only matters that you are BLAMING him.

What's the answer? Certainly Not the answer you have given.. they plays right into their hands... You got to stop labeling Trump supporters..They are not all the same..You can't divide them.. if you think of them as all the same.
And the only way to conquer them.... is to divide them..

You or I, can not solve the Trump problem.
But we can exacerbate it..By ALWAYS trying to put Republicans and Trump supporters on the defensive...... by labeling and grouping them..We unite THEM.

Will my solution work?
I don't know.. I don't know if you're right.
But here's my deal.. if we don't do it.. we'll NEVER know.
We NEED to give them the opportunity to divide themselves. Without trying to FORCE them to choose sides.


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
10/29/2018 7:54 am

What I have ALWAYS known.. is the truer argument of Republicans is within and between themselves. The partisanship of Republican support and ideas, has ALWAYS been more varied than their argument with Liberals. What hasn't been varied, and has been promoted, is their anti-liberal agreement. The only way to see it, is to remove Liberals from the equation.
But if you look you can find it here... Look at the different Trump supporters here.
At the base of any of their agreement, that's not anti-liberal,... is not REALLY a disagreement with LIBERALS...
Smaller government
Lower taxes
Security
Rule of law
Constitutituonal beliefs
immigration
The deficit
The economy
Human Rights
Equality
even regulations
It's the disagreement in the Application of those ideas...
That disagreement, unites them, and puts their own disagreement with the application on the back burner.
They do not even agree on the application either.. WE just don't allow them to voice it, between themselves.
Trump is a mastermind of that...the "smoke and mirrors"... He sends up the smoke signals.. and turns the mirror away from them.
The true nature of the swamp.. is both Parties.. squashing their individual voices, for an "uncommon good"


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
10/29/2018 5:55 pm

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    The failure is in the HOW not the what.....As You talk about the what...They don;'t care...But they listen and read..Why?

    They don't care about what you say, only the meaning of HOW you say....they will search for the flaws in what you say...but not in the context of what you mean.
    No matter what you say. HOW you say it is their justification. The "Liberal News Media".. does the same thing for them..It not what they say but the point of why they are saying it.
    So it doesn't matter to them WHAT you blame Trump for... It only matters that you are BLAMING him.

    What's the answer? Certainly Not the answer you have given.. they plays right into their hands... You got to stop labeling Trump supporters..They are not all the same..You can't divide them.. if you think of them as all the same.
    And the only way to conquer them.... is to divide them..

    You or I, can not solve the Trump problem.
    But we can exacerbate it..By ALWAYS trying to put Republicans and Trump supporters on the defensive...... by labeling and grouping them..We unite THEM.

    Will my solution work?
    I don't know.. I don't know if you're right.
    But here's my deal.. if we don't do it.. we'll NEVER know.
    We NEED to give them the opportunity to divide themselves. Without trying to FORCE them to choose sides.
I haven't got a solution.....I don't know what the Puck is going on........and, unlike you, I don't pretend to. I see people being deluded, being defensive, wanting more stuff, making it all about stuff.......Focus on the stage set, the props and the costumes ........Yeah, he's a monster leading us to perdition, but, hey, we now have more money for glitter..... Ignoring the destruction of the planet while preparing for a post-death lala land.....and the children look around at the destruction wrought by their elders and choose the electronic lala land of the present because their future looks like a Zombie Apocalypse.....


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
10/31/2018 3:57 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    I haven't got a solution.....I don't know what the Puck is going on........and, unlike you, I don't pretend to. I see people being deluded, being defensive, wanting more stuff, making it all about stuff.......Focus on the stage set, the props and the costumes ........Yeah, he's a monster leading us to perdition, but, hey, we now have more money for glitter..... Ignoring the destruction of the planet while preparing for a post-death lala land.....and the children look around at the destruction wrought by their elders and choose the electronic lala land of the present because their future looks like a Zombie Apocalypse.....
".I don't know what the Puck is going on........and, unlike you, I don't pretend to"

What the heck is that suppose to mean..?

Either that I KNOW or you don't pretend to KNOW..

I don't know any more than you do....something we just search for the truth in different places. there is no FINAL result of that search, either mine or yours.

I gave a response to you on another blog, about trump...and "MY Supermodel".. His use of words. The denigration...

So you bite into it.. and say "unlike you"...

So let me.. denigrate you.. by saying "we are more alike than different"...
But..."Unlike you" I really mean it..