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starwomyn 70F
8871 posts
11/11/2018 7:42 pm

Have you ever had a flight cancelled because of bad weather. Would you insist on putting the pilot and everyone else at risk or change your plans? The White House Military deemed it unsafe to fly the Presidential helicopter because of bad weather and grounded it. The President made alternative plans to honor the WWI Veterans at another site. I am sure the folks at the alternate site were thrilled to have an unexpected visit from the President.

Abracadabra


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
11/11/2018 10:02 pm

    Quoting starwomyn:
    Have you ever had a flight cancelled because of bad weather. Would you insist on putting the pilot and everyone else at risk or change your plans? The White House Military deemed it unsafe to fly the Presidential helicopter because of bad weather and grounded it. The President made alternative plans to honor the WWI Veterans at another site. I am sure the folks at the alternate site were thrilled to have an unexpected visit from the President.
Is his staff too incompetent to read weather reports and set up alternative transportation? a backup plan?......Surely he could go by motorcade like the others......


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
11/11/2018 10:13 pm

The level of fealty is astonishing.....I have never seen anything comparable, except in cult members.......Emissaries of Divine Light and the Jehovah Witnesses...and the stories my father told about the followers of Hitler and Mussolini......I've read about it, of course, but to see it first hand like this is quite extraordinary........The Authoritarians in action......magnified by Social Media.....


starwomyn 70F
8871 posts
11/11/2018 11:29 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    Is his staff too incompetent to read weather reports and set up alternative transportation? a backup plan?......Surely he could go by motorcade like the others......
Obviously his staff DID read the weather reports and set up an alternative plan.

SURESNES, France — President Trump spoke without an umbrella during a cold, rainy Veterans Day ceremony in France.
The ceremony at Suresnes Cemetery near Paris was Trump's final scheduled stop before returning to the U.S.
"This is certainly the highlight of the trip," Trump said, after putting down his umbrella to speak.

The few reporters who chose to attend huddled under umbrellas, with ponchos over their computers. Many others chose to remain at a hotel press filing center.


Abracadabra


starwomyn 70F
8871 posts
11/11/2018 11:46 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    The level of fealty is astonishing.....I have never seen anything comparable, except in cult members.......Emissaries of Divine Light and the Jehovah Witnesses...and the stories my father told about the followers of Hitler and Mussolini......I've read about it, of course, but to see it first hand like this is quite extraordinary........The Authoritarians in action......magnified by Social Media.....
You must like being controlled by the "thought police" for a nation that is not yours so you allege. Do you enjoy hypocrisy of the attitude of "others can think and say anything they want, as long as it agrees with what you think." Are you so polarized that any thought or belief that does not "toe the party line" is not to be tolerated?

Abracadabra


Katie_au_lait 78F
7026 posts
11/12/2018 1:24 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    The level of fealty is astonishing.....I have never seen anything comparable, except in cult members.......Emissaries of Divine Light and the Jehovah Witnesses...and the stories my father told about the followers of Hitler and Mussolini......I've read about it, of course, but to see it first hand like this is quite extraordinary........The Authoritarians in action......magnified by Social Media.....
It's absolutely mind-blowing, isn't it?
What I find astounding is that these people think they can be religious and totally irreligious at the same time. And I do not mean just the Christian religion...it is not confined to any one religion.

To my mind declaring belief in something means... that belief is the catalyst for all of your words and actions. Having two opposite beliefs and acting on them, is hypocrisy.


Katie_au_lait 78F
7026 posts
11/12/2018 3:45 am

He believes he can do whatever he wants to do, he see's himself as the king of the world. If he can't get his way by honest and fair means he will get it by foul means.
The man is a traitor...and is every bit a dictator as Duterte (someone he admires!) is.

Hopefully, now he's lost control of the House of Representatives, he will at least find it more difficult to go on reducing his country to a "sh*thole".


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
11/12/2018 4:14 am

'but in reality we have a president ill-equipped to perform the job for which he was elected."?

I find it strange how people can't see the light....in front of their eyes. How they think they control the on/off switch.....Without agreed premises...There is only dark, no matter how many times you flip the switch.

When the answer to your question is obvious...Yet, 40% of the people are unchanging.. in their answer.. maybe you are asking the wrong question....when the answer from those 40% is also obvious.
They believe Donald Trump is perfectly equipped, to perform the job they elect him for..

Ever since Ronald Reagan.....Conservatives, Religion, alt-right, smaller government, and less taxes... have had a myriad of Presidents.. who were ill equipped to do the job, they were elected for.. Yet, Ronald Reagan, kept them together. still hoping and still trying...
But then came Bill Clinton..And when it came to compromise he took all the Credit.. And when it came to morals, he lacked them.. That idea was hard for them to bear... and their hope began to fade.. Then George W Bush, and although we believe he destroyed himself.. they didn't quite see it that way.... they saw us digging his grave, before his time... Then the final straw Barrack Obama. At the time of barrack Obama's inauguration .. The bells were ringing...A new age...The optics of that, were impossible for them to justify.....The final straw of them becoming the 'forgotten people"
The ball was no longer in the middle of the field, and they were on the defensive.
Obama, under any circumstances, could not succeed..they made that clear.
They became offensive... on the defensive.
Through a lack of true leadership..They became angrier and angrier.
Ted Cruz saw it and try to take the reins. With threats of shut downs, and obstruction..But it wasn't good enough... Ted Cruz was just ANOTHER politician.
They knew politics was going to change the trend.. to give them hope. They needed someone else to change the trend...To be unbelievable, fantastic, and the greatest ever.. of being offensive in their defense.
I honestly believe Trump doesn't really give a shit.. but Trump realized the situation, took advantage of it.. and took the reins. Many of them realized it too, but it didn't matter.. Trump was their man for the job...They elected him to do that job..
So you may see that he's ill-equipped...yet they see he's perfectly equipped..and the more you see he's ill-equipped the more perfectly equipped they see him.

But there is no going back,Now.... Because only with the ball, can they lose their coalition..For them or for Trump...and no matter where the ball rests on the field now.. they will continue to be "offensive on the defensive". They now... know no other way.


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
11/12/2018 4:31 am

Of course.. They believed Democrats, are now on the defensive, and trying to be offensive.... but Democrats can't change their behavior either...... Democrats don't know how to play defense
Democrats don't really see it any different than Republicans.... Republicans.. think Democrats are winning and need to be STOPPED.....
Democrats know they they winning and are just sitting on the ball.
And in the long run.... Republicans... can't do anything about it. Too many penalties
and If you can't score..... You can't win


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
11/12/2018 4:53 am

I know "you folks" think I'm crazy.. But here's the deals I will not argue with "you folks". You only got your 15 minutes of fame..NOW.
Here's what I KNOW..... NOTHING, NOTHING.. Trump has done will last. will stand the test of time... NOTHING of what he has done. is what it may seem to be NOW.....
Trump legacy is written in stone.....on the trash heap of history...
And "you folk" will not come out of it..smelling like a rose...You already know it.
And can't "Air Wick" it..

I need not argue... You don't scare me.. one iota...Time will tell, and it will be sooner than latter... so let me tell you with what I KNOW to be the end result.....And it being your last 15 minutes of Fame....WTF...You might as well GO FOR IT..


Rentier2 79M
950 posts
11/12/2018 6:02 am

Can you explain the reality of impeachment to me?
As I understand it, the odds are pretty slim since the Reps control the Senate.

A better strategy is what Rick Wilson suggests. Death by a thousand cuts using the investigative mechanisms the Dems now have available to them.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
11/12/2018 9:19 am

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Only 2% of California forests are in State hands....all the rest is Federal.....In 2017, Trump cut billions from the forest-fire fighting funds...........


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
11/12/2018 9:36 am

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Yup......Fealty......


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
11/12/2018 10:45 am

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let me ask you something....Do you have a vision of what you want..
Is it reasonable to assume it could happen....Could it happen with the current American citizenship.. and what would it take to make it happen.. If you answer it... I'll answer it. I have a vision.. I doubt your vision can get past today.


Katie_au_lait 78F
7026 posts
11/12/2018 11:13 am

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I take it you meant "unilaterally" not unliterally!

And, yes, he is a dictator.


LeafReport 73M

11/12/2018 2:23 pm

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Pathetic....truly pathetic and a disgrace.


Katie_au_lait 78F
7026 posts
11/12/2018 11:26 pm

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I think most people know that.


Katie_au_lait 78F
7026 posts
11/12/2018 11:46 pm

Exactly...trump has taken the place of the god they say they believe in...maisie's litanies prove that.