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Skariff2 66M
4279 posts
12/5/2018 8:27 am
Whining, double standards and expertise


I've been reading the recent posts here in Right Wing Heaven and offer some observations.

There are disparaging words regarding Sen. Bernie Sanders using a private jet followed by some required name calling and then followed by more disparaging words from folks who openly, vehemently and vociferously support a president who has, and continues, to spend millions of dollars each weekend so he can golf. The double standard is, apparently, lost on these experts who also profess a deep and expansive knowledge of our Constitution.

There are blogs informing us of the nature of our Constitution and the Founding Father's intent in its composition. There is also a rhetorical question which removes, via name calling and demeaning words, the Freedom of Speech guaranteed by the very Constitution the author purports to explain to us lesser Americans. Yet another double standard from a self proclaimed expert in the making and workings of the Constitution.

All of these posts are then bolstered and supported by folks who are unable to pass a Constitutional Law test if their very lives depended upon it. Evidence of this hubris can be found in the support and loyalty they give to a president who fails to recognize any of which I've just alluded. Perhaps that's the key to the loyalty and support, exacerbated by the fact none of the erstwhile authors have read even one of the 85 articles of The Federalist. It is much easier to interpret the Constitution according to personal feelings and beliefs rather than the true intent of the Founding Fathers. Citizenship in the United States of America is hard. It requires resolve, perseverance, understanding and patience. The self proclaimed experts exhibit none of those traits, relying instead on what they wished was written in that glorious document rather than what is actually written.

As I sit here watching a mourning nation bid farewell to its 41st President, I see evidence of what I say. George Herbert Walker Bush took and active role in the planning of his funeral and insisted President Trump be included., despite the fact he had little respect for him. He did, however, have great respect for the Office of President and as President Donald Trump was invited. You may recall President Trump was not invited to Barbara Bush's funeral. This is the essence of Americanism. This is a concept not understood by either President Trump or his supporters. The tenor of the posts to which I refer offers strong evidence to me because the GOP currently leads the nation yet the Democratic Party is blamed for all the maladies. The prime example is the braggadocio offered by President Trump and his supporters on the state of the economy. Rumor has it a recession is just around the corner and my prediction is it will be blamed on the Democrats because that's what today's GOP does.

Keep up the education, I feel enlightened by it.


Prejudice cannot be conquered with logic, logic didn't instill it and logic cannot eradicate it.


Skariff2 66M
2753 posts
12/5/2018 8:28 am

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Prejudice cannot be conquered with logic, logic didn't instill it and logic cannot eradicate it.


hiramhankwilliam 95M
3085 posts
12/5/2018 10:14 am

Perhaps that's the key to the loyalty and support, exacerbated by the fact none of the erstwhile authors have read even one of the 85 articles of The Federalist.

"THE FACT"

sir, please share with us. the details of how you came to possess the ability to know what any one reads.

if there has been a break through in mind reading. please allow us to know this and how we can all benefit.

if you come to this conclusion by simply disagreeing with bloggers then you actually know nothing of our reading habits or interest.

I readily admit I have not read all 85 of THE FEDERALIST PAPERS.

I have read many. perhaps you should avail your self of some.

oh I am not implying you haven't read some. just read the rest.

you are smart enough to have read the blogs here. that said , your reading should give you the conclusion some of us have read them.

I doubt, that many in the population have read all of them.

I would venture to say the readers of the entire collectiosn would be scholars and serious students of the make up of our REPUBLIC.

do me a favor. some day journey down to your local mall.

randomly ask folk have the read THE FEDERALIST PAPERS.

if you choose,share with us no only how many have read them, but how many have even heard of them.

that my friend is the reason society has become as it is.

UNINFORMED . UNEDUCATED.

am i uneducated, depends on your standard of what educated means.

i expect you liek others here would throw shade at me due to me being a life long resident of ALABAMA.

or any of many slurs realted to the south.

in the furture please dont use the pronoun, none, collectively.

DEATH IS A CERTAIN, ETERNITY IS A CHOICE


CarolinaPanthera 57F
2004 posts
12/5/2018 12:59 pm

Boy they're reaching aren't they? One said Obama told her to turn her thermostat down while he was nice, and toasty in the White House, and she's still having a hissy fit over it. The blog owner just pulled a random number out of his head, and gave no clue as to where his 'fake news' came from, and well...the other one wouldn't know the truth if it hit her in the head. Yep, that's your typical Trump loyalist alright. Nothing the squatter in the White House does bothers them though. That's disturbing.


Skariff2 66M
2753 posts
12/5/2018 12:59 pm

    Quoting hiramhankwilliam:
    Perhaps that's the key to the loyalty and support, exacerbated by the fact none of the erstwhile authors have read even one of the 85 articles of The Federalist.

    "THE FACT"

    sir, please share with us. the details of how you came to possess the ability to know what any one reads.

    if there has been a break through in mind reading. please allow us to know this and how we can all benefit.

    if you come to this conclusion by simply disagreeing with bloggers then you actually know nothing of our reading habits or interest.

    I readily admit I have not read all 85 of THE FEDERALIST PAPERS.

    I have read many. perhaps you should avail your self of some.

    oh I am not implying you haven't read some. just read the rest.

    you are smart enough to have read the blogs here. that said , your reading should give you the conclusion some of us have read them.

    I doubt, that many in the population have read all of them.

    I would venture to say the readers of the entire collectiosn would be scholars and serious students of the make up of our REPUBLIC.

    do me a favor. some day journey down to your local mall.

    randomly ask folk have the read THE FEDERALIST PAPERS.

    if you choose,share with us no only how many have read them, but how many have even heard of them.

    that my friend is the reason society has become as it is.

    UNINFORMED . UNEDUCATED.

    am i uneducated, depends on your standard of what educated means.

    i expect you liek others here would throw shade at me due to me being a life long resident of ALABAMA.

    or any of many slurs realted to the south.

    in the furture please dont use the pronoun, none, collectively.
Please allow me to explain.

"THE FACT" sir, please share with us. the details of how you came to possess the ability to know what any one reads."

Then you follow it up with;

"...your reading should give you the conclusion some of us have read them."

So, which is it? I hope you see the contradictory nature of this portion of your response.

The place where you were born or raised has no bearing on my opinion of your intellectual prowess. The words you write here do, however.

I shall continue to use the words I choose in my blogs and my posts. If I need assistance I shall feel free to consult with you.

Prejudice cannot be conquered with logic, logic didn't instill it and logic cannot eradicate it.


bijou649 69F
106 posts
12/5/2018 1:02 pm

I don't know a lot about U.S. politics and I'm not even an American. I don't feel like doing a lot of research just to reply to blogs, but I do watch CNN and read the news online. I've never attended an SFF bash or met anyone in person and I don't use the chatroom. I am a loner in real life so I at least want to feel like I'm part of the group here, so I like to give my opinions on a few blogs, and the blogs that interest me most are the political blogs.

I've been watching Bush Sr.'s funeral and one thing that really struck me was that by inviting Trump it might open Trump's eyes and make him a more humble man and a better president. Maybe Trump will realize how privileged he is to hold this office, and maybe, just maybe he will stop pushing and insulting and bumbling his way through his presidency.


hobsonschoice 70F
3081 posts
12/5/2018 2:30 pm

    Quoting bigblock46:
    OK lets just see how well you know the Constitution. Why has our Constitution been classed as "rigid"?
The term "rigid" is used in opposition to "flexible" because the provisions are in a written document which cannot be legally changed with the same ease and in the same manner as ordinary laws. The British Constitution, which is unwritten, can, on the other hand, be changed overnight by act of Parliament.


hiramhankwilliam 95M
3085 posts
12/5/2018 3:27 pm

    Quoting Skariff2:
    Please allow me to explain.

    "THE FACT" sir, please share with us. the details of how you came to possess the ability to know what any one reads."

    Then you follow it up with;

    "...your reading should give you the conclusion some of us have read them."

    So, which is it? I hope you see the contradictory nature of this portion of your response.

    The place where you were born or raised has no bearing on my opinion of your intellectual prowess. The words you write here do, however.

    I shall continue to use the words I choose in my blogs and my posts. If I need assistance I shall feel free to consult with you.
YOU SIR, are the guilty party . you cherry picked out a phrase and tried to make hay.

my first part, which is,, please share with us. the details of how you came to possess the ability to know what any one reads..

this is plainly and simply asking to share or tell us how you know what folks read and how much.

the cherry picked part. has nothing to do with the first part.

please go back and reread.

you are smart enough to have read the blogs here. that said , your reading should give you the conclusion some of us have read them.

this was referencing you reading the blogs. it was to point out that you could have or did read some one in here at some time making reference to the PAPERS.

YOU SIR ARE A CLASS CASE OF AVOIDING THE SUBJECT DUE TO LACK OF VAILD ARGUMENT.

I will be happy too assist you.

just please don't change my words or sentence to suit your point

DEATH IS A CERTAIN, ETERNITY IS A CHOICE


hiramhankwilliam 95M
3085 posts
12/5/2018 3:35 pm

    Quoting hobsonschoice:
    The term "rigid" is used in opposition to "flexible" because the provisions are in a written document which cannot be legally changed with the same ease and in the same manner as ordinary laws. The British Constitution, which is unwritten, can, on the other hand, be changed overnight by act of Parliament.
BUT BUT BUT,,,,,,,,, MY DEAR. THIS IS NOT ENGLAND.

our forefathers left England to get out of a rigid life . controlled by one of the kings, George harry, or some one.

ifi see correct. you live in the west liberal part of the usa
why am I not surprised in your remark

DEATH IS A CERTAIN, ETERNITY IS A CHOICE


hobsonschoice 70F
3081 posts
12/5/2018 4:09 pm

    Quoting hiramhankwilliam:
    BUT BUT BUT,,,,,,,,, MY DEAR. THIS IS NOT ENGLAND.

    our forefathers left England to get out of a rigid life . controlled by one of the kings, George harry, or some one.

    ifi see correct. you live in the west liberal part of the usa
    why am I not surprised in your remark
Who said it was England?


LeafReport 67M
440 posts
12/5/2018 6:02 pm

    Quoting bigblock46:
    OK lets just see how well you know the Constitution. Why has our Constitution been classed as "rigid"?
What is the 13th Amendment?


bigblock46 72M
8069 posts
12/5/2018 7:20 pm

Something you know nothing about: Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.


Skariff2 66M
2753 posts
12/5/2018 8:33 pm

    Quoting hiramhankwilliam:
    YOU SIR, are the guilty party . you cherry picked out a phrase and tried to make hay.

    my first part, which is,, please share with us. the details of how you came to possess the ability to know what any one reads..

    this is plainly and simply asking to share or tell us how you know what folks read and how much.

    the cherry picked part. has nothing to do with the first part.

    please go back and reread.

    you are smart enough to have read the blogs here. that said , your reading should give you the conclusion some of us have read them.

    this was referencing you reading the blogs. it was to point out that you could have or did read some one in here at some time making reference to the PAPERS.

    YOU SIR ARE A CLASS CASE OF AVOIDING THE SUBJECT DUE TO LACK OF VAILD ARGUMENT.

    I will be happy too assist you.

    just please don't change my words or sentence to suit your point
Go somewhere else and try to convince them you have even rudimentary literary skills. I have neither the time nor the inclination to argue with you or BigBlock over nonsensical drivel designed to make a lipsticked pig appealing. I have politely asked both of you to cease posting on my blog unless you have something pertinent to say. As of this writing I have seen no such pertinence. I have not sought to avoid any subject, but I have, in my mind, determined your writings have no real subject matter, only factual recitations of information one can find in numerous places on the internet. This is the dearth of critical thinking to which I have referred in previous blogs.

As a result of the foregoing, I reiterate my request you, and any of the various names you've managed to acquire, cease posting on my blogs. I will not have to read about your brilliance and you will no longer be embarrassed by your obvious lack of communicative skills. Thank you.

Prejudice cannot be conquered with logic, logic didn't instill it and logic cannot eradicate it.


LeafReport 67M
440 posts
12/6/2018 3:41 am

    Quoting bigblock46:
    Something you know nothing about: Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
Well since you publicly stated that you don't care if your party does illegal things as long as you got a tax cut that probably is enough to label you as "officially" stupid. The days of being 'unofficially' stupid would appear to be over now. It's a fact of life Mr. Ed...your brain is smaller than your fat ass.


Rentier2 74M
167 posts
12/6/2018 7:20 am

Seems to me that the 'true intent' of the FF's could be outdated.
Conditions and values have changed drastically since 1789.

I doubt that the FF's ever anticipated the invention of automatic weapons that put out hundreds of rounds a minute or that women had any right to vote.


Maisie2013 67F
18828 posts
12/6/2018 7:31 am

I have two take aways here.

One- according to Democrats, the only good Republican is a dead one.

Two- Go sit over there with Hawaii Senator Mazie Hirono, who declared this week that Americans are too stupid to know what the Democrats are saying.
You have said that many times - about people voting " against their own interests" and terms like " lack of critical thinking " when commenting on a Conservative view.

The Democrats are not " for the little guy" . They are the elites, looking down their collective noses at the rest of America. Don't believe me? You haven't been reading what they say.


earthytaurus3 78F
38410 posts
12/6/2018 9:11 am

Interesting responses ……….


CarolinaPanthera 57F
2004 posts
12/6/2018 4:29 pm

    Quoting Maisie2013:
    I have two take aways here.

    One- according to Democrats, the only good Republican is a dead one.

    Two- Go sit over there with Hawaii Senator Mazie Hirono, who declared this week that Americans are too stupid to know what the Democrats are saying.
    You have said that many times - about people voting " against their own interests" and terms like " lack of critical thinking " when commenting on a Conservative view.

    The Democrats are not " for the little guy" . They are the elites, looking down their collective noses at the rest of America. Don't believe me? You haven't been reading what they say.
Yes girl. We all know that Trump is all about the "little guy." Starting out with a 'small loan' of over 400 million dollars...wait...a loans get paid back...anyway, having started out with such humble means, Trump can certainly relate to the "little guy."


sparkleflit 71F
3673 posts
12/6/2018 5:56 pm

    Quoting CarolinaPanthera:
    Yes girl. We all know that Trump is all about the "little guy." Starting out with a 'small loan' of over 400 million dollars...wait...a loans get paid back...anyway, having started out with such humble means, Trump can certainly relate to the "little guy."

And, Trump's cabinet has more billionaires than any other in US history.


earthytaurus3 78F
38410 posts
12/7/2018 7:49 am

    Quoting bigblock46:
    Your petty jealousy is quite obvious.
Sparkle stated a fact, not an opinion. Jealousy doesn't apply here, does it?