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1/24/2020 1:58 pm |
We shall see if they represent this country and the people for which it was designed. They have the opportunity to stand tall. America has always had patriots who step forth in crisis. Some must and will step forward. The time has arrived. America the home of the brave.
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1/24/2020 3:22 pm |
Bijou things must be read formally into the court record. Otherwise the opposition would claim the house did not present it's case properly. Many already know what is being said.
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The founding knew the pitfalls.. but they had a different perception of it.. Christianity and other religion, and THEIR "constitutions" seemed to be able to control our human nature to the extent that the evil of it, could just become an aberration. That for most of us our human nature could be controlled..That was that time, that idea. For the most part.. Our founding father were idealists...Our Constitution is an idealistic document.. with guardrails. To promote God, and the idealism that goes along with it. The founding father new the temptations..They just couldn't accept that those temptation would become as prevalent as they are, that human nature couldn't be controlled, and would win out .. that religion itself would succumb to the temptations. And would ultimately destroy it own idealism and along with it theirs. It's simple really for that time and that place...The evils of human nature were thought to be the aberration...When in truth the idealism was.
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We are the "Klingons" of the universe.. We cling on to the adversary positions. The fight, the warlike attitude of do it to them, before they do it to you. Survival.. is the only TRUE human nature. Of course, now it manifests itself differently.. There are different Circumstances and different adversaries, that will translate into how we are to survive. Once we see the real difference between liberalism and conservatism.. We understand they are THE SAME.. one to return to the past idealism... and the other to move forward with the idealism of the past.. neither will survive. The idealism of the past.. is the aberration. On either path.....We are destined to destroy ourselves... The fact is... THE TRUTH... it always wins out....It will win out Today in our misadventures with this impeachment...You think a guilty verdict or an acquittal matters? .. When only our ability to see the truth matters.. You can't make it what you want it to be..... it doesn't work that way..... And it will win out tomorrow.. with our further misadventures. The truth about climate change and destroying our environment.. the truth about territorialism and tribalism. The Truth about capitalism.....The truth about RACE.. The Truth about the lies... we tell ourselves. And the irony between those who create the truth and those that don't care what truth is created.....In the short time we get here...those that accept that the truth as fixed, and doesn't matter.. The truth as unchangeable and doesn't matter...are the ones better off. You ONLY get the time .. YOU got.. you don't have to Lie to yourself.. You just have to avoid it altogether. Know what it is and live with it.
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The Preamble of the Constitution states. " We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America." We the People" deliberately directs the basis of our government to the People and not to God. God is not mentioned in the Constitution, only the People. Grounding
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What you think God is real.. that God is not idealism?.. You don't think that equality, compassion, liberty, justice, freedom, sacrifice, penitence, self governing, taking care of the poor and needy, respect and trust of others.. Are not tenets of God, are not the idealism of God. WE the People.. was written when We the people were representative of God.. God created Us..Tell them in 1776.. that's not the case.. Tell them God, wasn't good.. I understand why you think that way....But in the late seventeen hundreds it not way THEY THOUGHT...this country was founded on the religions of those times. They did what they knew.. they created a bible for governing...Called it a Constitution...Their religion has failed, and yet we still hang on to their bible, just like the one they knew. but their failure was not too much imagination. It was not enough "Imagine there's no heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people living for today Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people living life in peace" I am not a conservative who wants to go BACK to it I am not a Liberal who believe I can carry it forward.. The fact is.. It no longer exists.... God has always been a made up idealism...To service our needs.. But those needs have changed.. and God hasn't. So okay.. hate me.. I'm an atheist...I don't believe in the God you all believe in..I got my own... that services My needs. My God ain't your God, and Your God ain't My god.. get over it.....You can't have mine.. And I don't want yours. Please note I am not just talking about Christianity.. I am talking about RELIGION, and it's hold on US. The choice we can make when it's grip is released. this isn't the end of that.. It the beginning of the end. there is still a long way to go... The nuclear age changed that, when we got the power to destroy both the evil and righteous all of it at once.. We gained the privy of GOD..WE controlled the floods, the famine, and the petulance. The world has shrunk, and God is no longer big enough to rule over it..God is no longer IN CHARGE..We resigned the duties of God.. to a the man with his finger on the BUTTON. Truth has to rule over it. Those who deny the truth believe Gods.. Jesus was the NEW God.. but it was still an old truth. The "second coming" will hopefully bring a new TRUTH... We certainly don't need to LOSE our idealism.. We just need to re-created it. Begin that with NOTHING else matters but the Truth.. WE begin our idealism with the search for then TRUTH.. We may not like it.. but we CAN survive it.. WE will Die in the Lie, and Live in the truth. you think I am trying to scare you.. make you comply.. You think wrong... At the time, the founding fathers thought our human nature could destroy US.. God and the guardrail could save us....But I have a different idea.. I believe, that in our future, our only human nature, the will to survive, will Save US. IMAGINE THAT!
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Yes....but you confuse God with Christianity..our founding father could see the need for the separation of Church and State.. The constitution was their compilation of all religions at that time. They knew the value of religion for that time.. They knew religion controlled the people and the people would control the government. What they didn't want was for religion to control the government to control the people. they saw that in other countries as a detriment. They wrote the Constitution like a bible about governing.. they took the ideals primarily from Christianity, But they knew the value of separating Church and state.. They ceded to religion, God..but in the same light wrote a manifest for governing. If you think about it..at that time, within those parameters, they had no other choice but a "pope" or a "prince"... They choose to define non-secular..within a secular society. They used Jesus own words.. “Therefore render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.”
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The only point I was trying make was NOT about God.. it was about idealism..How idealism in both religion and government...are bound.. I do not wish to argue the chicken or the egg.. But it's obvious the failure of the idealism in religion has invaded our idealism in government. And that failure feeds off each other and fights with each other.. The founding Fathers established a nonsecular government in a secular society..It was able to work...for the idealism of both were bound.. But The equality of that idealism, lost ground.. The secular became an adversary of the non-secular and vice versa.
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The only point I was trying make was NOT about God.. it was about idealism..How idealism in both religion and government...are bound.. I do not wish to argue the chicken or the egg.. But it's obvious the failure of the idealism in religion has invaded our idealism in government. And that failure feeds off each other and fights with each other.. The founding Fathers established a nonsecular government in a secular society..It was able to work...for the idealism of both were bound.. But The equality of that idealism, lost ground.. The secular became an adversary of the non-secular and vice versa.
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I have read about the founders and it seemed to me like they weren't necessarily Christians, but Deists...Jefferson wrote a heavily redacted compilation of the bible and most of them believed none of the miracles and supernaturalism........
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Have you read Steven Pinker's "The Better Angels Of Our Nature."?......Interesting read.....I .got the audio book from the library.....listen while I knit......stitches the words into my brain..... There is slight bit of difference though..That I am trying to explain.. Four better angels Pinker examines four motives that "can orient [humans] away from violence and towards cooperation and altruism." He identifies: 1. Empathy: which "prompts us to feel the pain of others and to align their interests with our own." 2. Self-Control: which "allows us to anticipate the consequences of acting on our impulses and to inhibit them accordingly." 3. The Moral Sense: which "sanctifies a set of norms and taboos that govern the interactions among people in a culture." These sometimes decrease violence but can also increase it "when the norms are tribal, authoritarian, or puritanical." 4. Reason: which "allows us to extract ourselves from our parochial vantage points." In this chapter Pinker also examines and partially rejects the idea that humans have evolved in the biological sense to become less violent Humans are not genetically EVIL. For normal people that may seems easy to understand.....But it's not easy. We have been propagandized to allow ourselves to believe these principle can be our enemy In truth. the battle we currently face is one that fights against "Pinker's principles" "Pinker's Principals" is the Human nature... that I see saving Us. Those that don't understand "Pinker's Principles".... believe those are the principles that are destroying US *********************** Say it fast...five times.. "Peter Piper picked a pack of Pinker's Principles".....LOL
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