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Are Humans Predisposed to Kill Each Other? Are we, the humans really predisposed to kill each other? The question is haunting me soon after I read an article on the subject very recently! The article states that if we “view our species objectively from the outside, the way a zoologist would carefully observe any other animal, or see us the way every other creature perceives human beings. The brutal reality could not be more evident or more horrifying. Humans are the most relentless yet oblivious killers on Earth." Do you consider that humans are really predisposed to kill each other? |
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Could humans be compared with the killer whales?
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I think that our ancient history was based on a fight for survival against the harsh element of nature. I don't think we are naturally predisposed to kill other humans, except to protect ourselves and those dear to us. Killer whales are hunting & killing to feed themselves.
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Agree with Rocketship. However, many women kill their own children when they are still forming in their womb. Well, this is another subject ...
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Sandy, thank you so much for your views left at above. I see no reason to disagree with your opinion on the subject. However, I can’t also disagree with the opinion that human ‘violence operates far outside the bounds of any other species.’ Take Care. Stay well and cheerful always.
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I think that our ancient history was based on a fight for survival against the harsh element of nature. I don't think we are naturally predisposed to kill other humans, except to protect ourselves and those dear to us. Killer whales are hunting & killing to feed themselves. Yes, killer Whales hunt and kill to feed themselves. They are known to be highly social but not territorial like human beings! Take care and stay cheerful always.
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Agree with Rocketship. However, many women kill their own children when they are still forming in their womb. Well, this is another subject ... Hope, you are doing well. Take Care.
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IT DOESN'T SURPRISE ME AT ALL LOOK. WE ARE THE SAME AS OTHER ANIMALS, WE FIGHT FOR OUR TERRITORY, OUR FAMILIES, AND FOR BELIEFS SEEING WE HAVE THEM. BEING OF SUPERIOR INTELLIGENCE HAS MADE US EVEN BETTER KILLERS, SAD BUT TRUE.
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The higher the intelligence..the greater the idea of threat.. Human are really no different....They see the threat differently...A past threat, a current threat, and a future threat.. the real threat and the unrealistic threat. Couple that with any living species idea about killing for survival...And human take on a wider range of Killing. Humans can see the threat from other humans...that most species do not find within themselves. the irony about that...the human ability to remove outside threats..until the only threat left is themselves.... we are moving in that direction both mentally and physically. I certainly wouldn't use the word predisposed.....more like post disposed...a learned trait....that has more to do about control than survival. Again, moving in the direction of CONTROL.. both mentally and physically. Another human breaks into your house.......if he has a gun.. you kill him because he poses a physical threat.. if he doesn't have a gun.. you kill him because he's a threat to your control. Justifiable Homicide.. that is until breaking into your "real" "house" has nothing to do with it.. Which is where we at now.
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Very few human kill for the pleasure.....But even they misinterpret their reason..The pleasure is not in the killing..... it's in the control..
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WE are the only speicies that has confused the ideas of control and survival....We have come to realize incorrectly that without control, we lose our ability to guarantee survival.. It effect everything we do.....the ideas of wealth and power.. where it once appeared to be it's own reward..It no longer means that ....It means control.. It means survival. At our age.... it's really obvious......Our idea and fear about our own "survival"......are about losing wealth, losing power, and losing control.... No other species... does that.....Although other species may have fear....the idea of the control of it.. does not enter the picture... they do what it takes.. without guarantees, without total control, and to a degree acceptance...that's the way it is.. Human aren't like that.. that's what they are predispose to......is to believe they can control the things they fear.....but Humans never realize.... it's their fear that controls them.......... Just ask Donald Trump!
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3/14/2019 6:11 pm |
Human race, contrary to animals, has dangerous traits: greed and envy! Wars are started for that reason, and the most powerful gets it all. "The Future" by l. Cohen tells how it ends.
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Where attention goes, energy flows ~ hope springs eternal The world's first peace organizations emerged in the 19th century and since that time, anti-war activism has progressed rapidly. This illuminating book presents a realistic analysis of the extent to which the war system has infiltrated all aspects of Western culture and how it works to perpetuate war rather than promote peace. Additionally, the text describes the historically recent and still evolving parallel system of peace institutions. The values and ideas that have grown out of peace activism offer a very real opportunity to outlaw war in the coming century just as slavery was abolished in the 19th century - 'From War to Peace - A Guide to the Next Hundred Years' - Kent D Shifferd
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IT DOESN'T SURPRISE ME AT ALL LOOK. WE ARE THE SAME AS OTHER ANIMALS, WE FIGHT FOR OUR TERRITORY, OUR FAMILIES, AND FOR BELIEFS SEEING WE HAVE THEM. BEING OF SUPERIOR INTELLIGENCE HAS MADE US EVEN BETTER KILLERS, SAD BUT TRUE.
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The higher the intelligence..the greater the idea of threat.. Human are really no different....They see the threat differently...A past threat, a current threat, and a future threat.. the real threat and the unrealistic threat. Couple that with any living species idea about killing for survival...And human take on a wider range of Killing. Humans can see the threat from other humans...that most species do not find within themselves. the irony about that...the human ability to remove outside threats..until the only threat left is themselves.... we are moving in that direction both mentally and physically. I certainly wouldn't use the word predisposed.....more like post disposed...a learned trait....that has more to do about control than survival. Again, moving in the direction of CONTROL.. both mentally and physically. Another human breaks into your house.......if he has a gun.. you kill him because he poses a physical threat.. if he doesn't have a gun.. you kill him because he's a threat to your control. Justifiable Homicide.. that is until breaking into your "real" "house" has nothing to do with it.. Which is where we at now. You have reasons for not using the word predisposed but I wonder what you would say if the word 'genetically' is added before the word 'predisposed'? Humans have been provided with a bit bigger brains by the creator perhaps without implanting proper guidance system there in for using the brains properly-hence the killings of their own kind! I may add here that a new study of 1,024mammal species has determined which animals are the most vicious killers of their own kind. Yes, humans have topped the list. Thank you so much for participating in the discussions. Your input has surely enriched the blog immensely! Take care.
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Very few human kill for the pleasure.....But even they misinterpret their reason..The pleasure is not in the killing..... it's in the control..
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Jo, delighted to read from you here on my blog page once again after such a long time and thanks for your comment that you have left on here for me to read. True, our track record is not only disgusting in nature but also unacceptable. Hope, you are keeping well, Jo. Take care and stay cheerful always.
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WE are the only speicies that has confused the ideas of control and survival....We have come to realize incorrectly that without control, we lose our ability to guarantee survival.. It effect everything we do.....the ideas of wealth and power.. where it once appeared to be it's own reward..It no longer means that ....It means control.. It means survival. At our age.... it's really obvious......Our idea and fear about our own "survival"......are about losing wealth, losing power, and losing control.... No other species... does that.....Although other species may have fear....the idea of the control of it.. does not enter the picture... they do what it takes.. without guarantees, without total control, and to a degree acceptance...that's the way it is.. Human aren't like that.. that's what they are predispose to......is to believe they can control the things they fear.....but Humans never realize.... it's their fear that controls them.......... Just ask Donald Trump!
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Human race, contrary to animals, has dangerous traits: greed and envy! Wars are started for that reason, and the most powerful gets it all. "The Future" by l. Cohen tells how it ends.
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Where attention goes, energy flows ~ hope springs eternal The world's first peace organizations emerged in the 19th century and since that time, anti-war activism has progressed rapidly. This illuminating book presents a realistic analysis of the extent to which the war system has infiltrated all aspects of Western culture and how it works to perpetuate war rather than promote peace. Additionally, the text describes the historically recent and still evolving parallel system of peace institutions. The values and ideas that have grown out of peace activism offer a very real opportunity to outlaw war in the coming century just as slavery was abolished in the 19th century - 'From War to Peace - A Guide to the Next Hundred Years' - Kent D Shifferd
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I don't think so, Sandy. Probably killers make no such choice when they decide to act! A psychiatrist can say more about it. Perhaps, you have seen the killing orgy on TV that was carried out in Christchurch a few hours back today. The killer went for everyone irrespective of men, women and children! Do you not consider this person as an example who is genetically predisposed to kill fellow humans?
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Jiminy, we don't need to ask anything to Donald for clarification! He may make us more confused if we do so! Maybe, he is one whose own fear controls himself! He instills fear as a control..Once he makes you fear....he gains control..maybe not you or I.. because we see through it.. but on the people that it works, it allows him to use it... Politically for Donald Trump... Winning isn't about Winning .. it about losing ones fears.. Trump is the only one that can WIN and remove your fears. Rich people who "hunt" for pleasure.. and KILLING... Do so... as a manifestation of their control.. In a world where control is a battle, a constant battle... killing for pleasure..epitomizes their "control" over things. It's an immediate refutation of any lack of control .. It enhances their own self-superiority.
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I don't think so, Sandy. Probably killers make no such choice when they decide to act! A psychiatrist can say more about it. Perhaps, you have seen the killing orgy on TV that was carried out in Christchurch a few hours back today. The killer went for everyone irrespective of men, women and children! Do you not consider this person as an example who is genetically predisposed to kill fellow humans? But i believe it has to do with CONTROL.. almost any killing, any time, for any human has to do with CONTROL..Control the person, control the situation, control the environment, control the outcome. For mass murders.. It's the final statement of Control..From the frustration of a life.. "OUT" of control.
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well.. I don't think Donald Trump fears...Nobody could act the way he does and HAVE fear... He instills fear as a control..Once he makes you fear....he gains control..maybe not you or I.. because we see through it.. but on the people that it works, it allows him to use it... Politically for Donald Trump... Winning isn't about Winning .. it about losing ones fears.. Trump is the only one that can WIN and remove your fears. Rich people who "hunt" for pleasure.. and KILLING... Do so... as a manifestation of their control.. In a world where control is a battle, a constant battle... killing for pleasure..epitomizes their "control" over things. It's an immediate refutation of any lack of control .. It enhances their own self-superiority.
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I can't totally get into the Human Psyche. certainly don't intend for it to be a categorical absolute.. But i believe it has to do with CONTROL.. almost any killing, any time, for any human has to do with CONTROL..Control the person, control the situation, control the environment, control the outcome. For mass murders.. It's the final statement of Control..From the frustration of a life.. "OUT" of control.
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Thank you for your post, boogie. I appreciate. lilium lives in New Plymouth, NZ. Hope she is keeping well by the Grace of God. My prayers are with the families of the innocent victims of the senseless carnage as well as with the people of New Zealand. We now know that hatred of a particular group of immigrants have been the motive behind this horrific crime committed by an Aussie export to tarnish the wonderful image of NZ as well as its fundamental principle of ethnic diversity. Take Care. Stay happy and well always.
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