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jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
6/20/2018 10:59 am

Just think what would have happened if we passed legislation to allow DACA's a pathway to citizenship? We'd be overrun by "children"... instead of being overrun by childish behavior.

Trump will always get confused by a "leverage" move. When the idea of leverage always outweighs the move itself... in his mind.. the idea that Trump is law abiding, and law enforcing..is totally a LIE...he picks and chooses laws only in regards to the "leverage" they allow him....laws... mean nothing to him.
In this case, Trump's view of people.....encompasses his view of children. the criminality of illegal entry..has no caveat when it comes to children.. With the criminality of children..he overstepped his leverage.

The idea of inhumane treatment.....Is ridiculous in the narrow view of it.... I doubt there is a single overseer of those children that would permit it. Denying food, clothes shelter and healthcare..to minimum levels.. So the inhumane treatment about human essentials is a Lie. I am sure everyone of those government employees is working their ass off...to overcome the inhumanity of it. That everyday... stares them back in the face..They hears the cries..they see the fear.

But still, the inhumane treatment exists. The criminality of children...the idea itself is inhumane..No minimum essentials are going to change that.

You are a prevaricator of inhumane treatment... you can't avoid it...It's in
your nature.... as a racist, a fascist, an elitist, a demigod, and a defender of the NEW Republicanism and of Trump. The inhumane treatment, that is in one's mind..That at first tries to justify it, only to permit the inhumane treatment of others..


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
6/20/2018 11:25 am

Think of it in terms of DACA....DACA to Trump was a leverage move.....The way he sees it... he wins, if we kick them all out.... and he wins.. if he gets what he wants by using them..
DACA's.. aren't people to Trump.. they are tools.. DACA's don't matter..
These Children to Trump are exactly the same.. They don't matter.. They NEVER have.
That's HOW Trump thinks..
Look in the mirror folks... YOU don't matter either..


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
6/20/2018 11:40 am

You think it matters that the inhumane treatment.. brought about by Nazism...was the killing of six million Jews. You people are fools..

Whether they killed six or six million.. it was all the same...

The inhumane treatment.. was not about killing six million.. That was just evidence of the crime.. that crime of inhumane treatment was committed way before.. there was the "evidence".

WE are committiing that crime NOW.....Do you need the "evidence" to believe it.


dusty117 73M

6/20/2018 12:13 pm

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"Selective outrage"? … Trump put the southern border under the microscope with his campaign rhetoric and promise that Mexico will pay for a border wall. The media didn't do that.

And I wouldn't say everything is "exactly the same" as 2104. A couple things come to mind. Trump is a self proclaimed racist. He stated his preference is white immigrants … Denmark for example. Now Trump is covering everything up by denying lawmakers and media access to detention centers.


bondjam33 70M
840 posts
6/20/2018 12:50 pm

Brilliant timing Maisie.

You ride in on your charger to defend the Mango Mussolini at precisely the hour HE decides his actions are indefensible and, in one stroke of the pen, proves that he was lying through his teeth all along and that you and your ilk were defending a policy which was not defendable.

Does the phrase 'Egg on face' come to mind?


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
6/20/2018 1:02 pm

    Quoting bondjam33:
    Brilliant timing Maisie.

    You ride in on your charger to defend the Mango Mussolini at precisely the hour HE decides his actions are indefensible and, in one stroke of the pen, proves that he was lying through his teeth all along and that you and your ilk were defending a policy which was not defendable.

    Does the phrase 'Egg on face' come to mind?
Eggzackly.........Maisie's empathy is restricted to British babies....


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
6/20/2018 1:04 pm

Abuse of History........Bad
Abuse of children........Good.......


dusty117 73M

6/20/2018 2:34 pm

Trump is desperate ... desperate to get funding for the wall he lied about to get elected. In his wisdom Trump thought a crisis at the border might be useful in extorting the money from taxpayers


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
6/20/2018 11:16 pm

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Of course you are referring to low information voters on both sides, right?


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
6/21/2018 12:10 am

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why do you think he did it?

why did he allow it to happen...... that stopped it?

You think it had anything to do with those kids?

The writing was on the wall.. he had to stop it..

The main reason.. was no matter which resolution to stop it.. Congress... something was going to pass something... Trump couldn't afford that to happen....

His stopping it had nothing do with the "program"
He stopped it because he couldn't allow congress to open that door.. He just can't allow congress to flex it muscle, in opposition to what he wants...that WILL BE the beginning of his end...
Congress. with the Republican in control. believes, it's not in their best interest to go against Trump..they'd like to.. but they can't.... All congress will have to do.. is win ONE battle against Trump. Their image....that they CAN"T use that power against him. will become.. just a memory.. As soon as the Republican congress realizes their hand aren't tied anymore... LOOKOUT TRUMP... there will be no more deals.. like you scratch mine.... I'll scratch yours...it will be OVER. You folks want to know what the 'swamp" is.. the swamp has always been Congress.. not doing their job., and they got plenty of "excuses" .. they let the crocodiles in to eat up the "marsh" mellows..


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
6/21/2018 3:04 pm

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So what's the big deal......You block people too....what a cry-baby.......You're completely pitiable. It must be terrible for you to wake up each day and realize you're the same miserable unloved and unwanted person you were yesterday......


dusty117 73M

6/21/2018 5:20 pm

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I haven't heard anybody saying it started with Trump. Trump's racist rhetoric makes it a crisis and completely newsworthy.

Regarding "lies". The ONLY thing that separated Trump from all the other candidates was lies.

This particular lie … *The greatest, wealthiest, most powerful, wonderful, omnipotent United States of America will extort money from poor neighbor Mexico to pay for Trump's great wall. And Mexico will pay because? Because … well maybe someone in Dan's "high information" crowd has that answer?

And to the "high information" crowd I say … if ya don't have the cash don't buy it ... don't be begging Mexico for the money.


Rentier1

6/22/2018 2:38 pm

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Thank you for acknowledging that.
However, it is free for anyone else to use.


Rentier1

6/22/2018 2:41 pm

    Quoting dusty117:
    "Selective outrage"? … Trump put the southern border under the microscope with his campaign rhetoric and promise that Mexico will pay for a border wall. The media didn't do that.

    And I wouldn't say everything is "exactly the same" as 2104. A couple things come to mind. Trump is a self proclaimed racist. He stated his preference is white immigrants … Denmark for example. Now Trump is covering everything up by denying lawmakers and media access to detention centers.
My biggest disappointment to date for the Trump era.
I was looking forward to The Great Wall going up.

Cemex, of course, would bid and get a substantial piece of it.


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
6/25/2018 9:41 am

Who'd have ever thought that building a wall would be harder than putting a man on the moon?
When building man UP.... is so much harder than tearing men down.