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jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
6/28/2018 9:44 am

I have been trying to tell you.. that with Trump everything is about leverage and blackmail. No one is immune to it....when he does it... we are all the same..

We are divided,, and he wants to keep it that way.. So His leverage can move through unimpeded... because it's equal opportunity leverage.....That was.. until.. this immigration family separation things. Using kids as leverage.. wasn't going to fly.. ...we drew a line..as to what we would accept as leverage.
What "leverage" was he using the kids for?........ First to "punish" those who would think to cross the border illegally....give them "second thoughts" about doing it.. Second.. to use those kids to get people on board for HIS immigration reform and THE WALL. To Trump it wasn't about the kids.. it was about the leverage.
What ended up happening.. was Trump t was punished for using kids.
It was Trump who's going have 'second thoughts' about using kids again.
Of course he's scrambling to get out of it. and you are providing distraction and support for him to be able to do it.

It's not just about kids.. it about everything he does.. LEVERAGE...We don't notice IT.. unless it's about kids.
.He doesn't want us to notice it..
The only difference for Trump about leverage and blackmail..... is that leverage is underhanded.. blackmail is in your face.. he sets people up with his "leverage". and then get his way with the "blackmail".. The man has NO other way of operating..

Today.. His chapters in leverage... expanded to the Supreme Court and naming a new Supreme court Justice ....... Watch him .. hear him talk....It's not about who's going to be the Justice.. It's how he can use .. who's going to be the Justice as leverage. For the midterm elections.. for his 'travel ban.... His wall.. his making State and local judiciary "obsolete" when it comes to... His power.. His CHOICES...Trump is trying to destroy OUR DEMOCRACY.


starwomyn 70F
8871 posts
6/28/2018 9:50 am

Apparently Trump hires quite a few illegal immigrates at his Margo Largo Resort. He helps them get Visa's and puts them to work. The Greenbrier Resort does the same. The reasoning is that that they have trouble with the locals who can't pass a drug test.

Abracadabra


Rentier1

6/28/2018 10:06 am

We libtards just like to whine.
We leave the real work to conservatives such as your good self.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
6/28/2018 10:18 am

It scares the piss out of me.. the possibilities with Trump..

The changing of the ocean tides..

You speak of the blue wave... like it just one crashing down upon Republicans

it's NOT .. it's the ocean current and the ocean tide...... and the earthquake called Trump..

The blue wave has always been rolling in...at different levels...

But this one......You better hope "rolls in".. YOU got a CHANCE of fighting it.. if it does..

Because when it stays out in the ocean and builds up....... and we only get glimpses. like
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a leftist outsider, has defeated 10-term incumbent Rep. Joe Crowley,..
You think to Yourself...that couldn't happen.. You think.. you wanted that to happen..You think that could help..You think you have a better chance of defeating her...? Think Again... Don't think in terms of what's going to happen.. Think about what happened...

Your best hope she wins.. because if she doesn't .. that undercurrent is going to stay out in the ocean.. and when it finally does arrives.. it scares the hell out of me.. It's going to be a TIDAL WAVE that's swamps us all.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
6/28/2018 10:43 am

You guys go ahead live in your fantasy world.. But Trump is done, finished..Kaput..
it's useless even talking about it.... The ONLY way Trump can keep his power.. is to keep blowing up that balloon..he's incapable of letting air out... That balloon can only hold so much,, before it "pops".. It's inevitable..

Bill Self... the KU basketball coach.... said this.. You take a shot..... it goes in.. that's great.. but it's not going in all the time..

The measure of your ability.. is what happens when it doesn't go in.. when you miss the shot! .....What you do then .. is the "measure"

"You folks" have already missed the shot.. now what are you going to do... maybe you should..Just Deal with it..
Quit trying to say it went in.. that you were"fouled" .. when you weren't and it didn't.. We all got eyes and ears...and the "scoreboard" doesn't lie.
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dusty117 73M

6/28/2018 11:08 am

Hilarious ..

Sure, beg, borrow, steal … that's Donald J Trump in a nutshell.

Begging is the new Republicans way. Trump begged Mexico. Trump begged Congress for a trillion dollars of US Treasury grub to divide up among his real base … globalist manufactures.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
6/28/2018 11:08 am

told leaf.. I was against impeachment.. I was against getting rid of trump.. It was too soon.. WE needed to get everybody on board before we did it..
Now, I believe I was right then.. but not so sure now..

Has everybody gotten on board that's going to?

Is the backlashed from "waiting"... going to be worse than doing it NOW.. because we waited.?

We can see it happening. The negativity of DeNiro, saying F*ck Trump. or the over-reacting of women in politics. The primary victories for the far left, and the that Bernie Sanders could be our Savior.. WTF?
Trump has done NOTHING for HILLARY or about HILLARY.. that's over..as much as he'd like to keep it going.. But what has Trump done for Bernie Sanders.. He almost made him into a GOD. Everybody who supported him is getting elected, BECAUSE OF TRUMP.... You folks on the right Don't GET it... That "blue wave" is not a Democrat "blue wave". it's a Bernie Sander 'blue wave".. so I say be careful what you wish for...

You folks on the Right are opening Pandora's box....YOU think you can control it...
When you only made it go "out of control"..

You think you can win... when you're only going to PAY for doing it.


bijou624

6/28/2018 11:25 am

We have a huge number of refugee claims here in Canada too. The expense to taxpayers is astronomical. I don't have the answer and more and more refugees are making claims every day all around the world. I worked in Immigration Law for a time Maisie and not a day went by where I wasn't crying at my desk over some refugee's claim. The immigrants you're getting through the U.S./Mexico border have suffered such horrors in their own countries and endured such unbelievable horrors getting to the U.S. As they went through Mexico to the U.S. border they are also horrors at the hands of the drug cartels preying on refugees.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
6/28/2018 11:31 am

    Quoting  :

You're right Obamacare is so gone.....and you will regret that day.

Obamacare ain't coming back..

And Republicans aren't going to do anything about healthcare but make it worse..

so what's going happen.. when we take our country back?

You'r an idiot.... the writing is on the wall.... Medicare for ALL...Pharmaceutical takeovers and regulated to death. Limiting hospital and doctors profits.. It's all going to happen because you would not go along with Obamacare... You're an idiot..

YOU think I"M FOR THAT?.. You are mistaken.. And that makes you a double idiot..


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
6/28/2018 11:40 am

    Quoting starwomyn:
    Apparently Trump hires quite a few illegal immigrates at his Margo Largo Resort. He helps them get Visa's and puts them to work. The Greenbrier Resort does the same. The reasoning is that that they have trouble with the locals who can't pass a drug test.
And at the Trump winery managed by Eric.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
6/28/2018 12:05 pm

Maisie,

I have always seen it the same way....and until now.. thought it could work..

The function of conservatives.. in which I include myself..... is to control that part of the Liberal thinking.... that is just the 'folly' of wishful thinking..
You come along and try to destroy the wish list.... THAT Can't work..
You can't destroy an idea...... you can only control an idea.

Deep down Liberals know it.. Deep down.. they are just like YOU....They know it's just a wish.... But as soon a you try to destroy the wish. Liberals will destroy us ALL ...to prove YOU WRONG. Just like YOU DO.. to prove THEM wrong...

so you see.... YOU"RE AN IDIOT!


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
6/28/2018 3:47 pm

    Quoting  :

What in the world does "closer to the economy" and "far removed" (from the economy mean?.........


dusty117 73M

6/28/2018 4:10 pm

    Quoting Rentier1:
    We libtards just like to whine.
    We leave the real work to conservatives such as your good self.
Haha Rentier, conservatives ..

There's no such thing as a conservative in the USA. So called conservatives supported nation building in Iraq including USA funded healthcare for Iraqis … all of which turned out to be the biggest waste of tax dollars since the Vietnam war.

Now the so called conservatives voted overwhelmingly for the biggest corporate welfare giveaway in US history.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
6/28/2018 11:54 pm

    Quoting  :

Universal Medical coverage.. Such nasty thinking.....

Anyway that's the "wish" .. the practicality of it.. Well that's the business at hand..

So go ahead make Universal Medical Coverage the "Bad guy".. try to destroy the wish.
And instead of controlling the beast.. you'll only feed it..
And I guarantee... It will eat you.. sure as shootin.


Rentier1

6/29/2018 7:02 am

    Quoting  :

I agree.

Someone has to kill all those ragheads just waiting to invade America and impose sharia law.

We libtards certainly won't do it.


Rentier1

6/29/2018 7:05 am

    Quoting bijou624:
    We have a huge number of refugee claims here in Canada too. The expense to taxpayers is astronomical. I don't have the answer and more and more refugees are making claims every day all around the world. I worked in Immigration Law for a time Maisie and not a day went by where I wasn't crying at my desk over some refugee's claim. The immigrants you're getting through the U.S./Mexico border have suffered such horrors in their own countries and endured such unbelievable horrors getting to the U.S. As they went through Mexico to the U.S. border they are also horrors at the hands of the drug cartels preying on refugees.
The problem with letting refugees in is that they work hard, send their kids to university.

These kids then take jobs that should go to Real Canadians who built this country.

I know this to be a fact since I am one of them.


dusty117 73M

6/29/2018 3:30 pm

    Quoting  :

Gotta love it when embarrassed Republicans rewrite the history of the Iraq war.

Do you remember the part when W Bush beat on his chest and said "I'm the decider"? Bush got permission from Congress to disarm Sadam IF proof of WMDs was found. Bush didn't get permission from Congress to occupy Iraq for the remainder of his two Presidential terms … Conservatives did that in the 2004 election.

And the best argument you can come up with for Trump Treasury Robbery is that you claim to know more about it than 60% of Americans!?

BTW it kind of looks like unemployment has decreased about 1% since President Pretty showed


dusty117 73M

6/29/2018 9:22 pm

    Quoting  :

You say .. "the understanding was we would leave when the military said it was time".

Wrong again, the understanding was to "disarm Sadam" ..that was the understanding. The understanding wasn't nation building or occupation or socialized healthcare for Iraqis.

The Commander In Chief says when it's time to leave based on advisors. If you were paying attention back then you would know that Bush had no stated exit strategy and he was criticized about it. The Bush/Cheney exit strategy was to exit the White House.

Americans were sick of Vietnam number two and elected a President to end it. ISIS in Iraq emerged from Sadam's republican guard. So you could make the case that W Bush created ISIS in Iraq.

And Obama was right they were the JV team .. easily defeated.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
6/30/2018 8:54 pm

    Quoting  :

I see you peeking out from under Maisie's skirts again.....do you ever come out? And do you really think that the desperate, despicable insults you lob from under those skirts can be characterized, by any stretch of the imagination as " "I run rings around you intellectually"?.........Whose going to believe that?.....Maybe the other intellectual greats you hang out with here, like Dan, Bob, and Hiram?....


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
7/1/2018 8:54 am

    Quoting  :

Yeah, nice try, still lobbing from under Maisie'es skirts though, and defended by by another one of SFF's great intellects.......