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YA_YA 80F
89 posts
10/11/2018 5:12 am
The "Other Women" of America


We are the “other women”. Our faces are not those contorted and filled with rage and hate, which flood television screens and social media 24 hours a day, seven days a week. Many of us are Christian Conservatives who pray diligently over elections and political matters. Some of us are “politcal junkies” while others are less informed. Many of us do not attend marches, though we fully support the”other women” who voice opinions in open forums that are dignified, nonviolent and nondisruptive. We do not wear crocheted hats representing female body parts, and our posters do not bear vulgarities and profanities. We do not harass those of you who do not agree with us while you enjoy movies or dinners at restaurants, nor do we condone or participate in violence of any kind. While we fully support peaceful protests and assemblies, many of us are unable to attend since we have full time jobs as nurses, teachers, attorneys, doctors, bankers, administrative assistants, secretaries, CEOs, self employed businesswomen, and many other occupations which contribute to our society. Those of us who are homemakers have obligations with PTO, church, community, and children’s events.
But make no mistake. We “other women” are watching. We are observing, and we are listening. Please do not assume that because we might not be seen, that we will fail to be heard.
As you discuss “how women feel” and “what women think”, you might consider those of us who seem silent, yet vigilant...We “other women” , millions across this country, are not represented by the disruptive, screaming, angry, women we see clamoring for attention, who seem intent on destroying anyone in their way as they try to elevate women while trampling over men. We are not impressed with the “girl power” on display as we see women literally beating the doors of the Supreme Court Building, disruptively screaming during the most solemn events of our government’s establishments, and harassing and threatening senators in their private offices and homes. We “other women” are conservatives, independents, and moderate Democrats who shudder with embarrassment as we see those of our gender so emotionally out of control.
Though we are silent, we are engaged, and we will respond and act with dignity and pride in representing the better aspects of our gender, while refuting the harmful behavior of the women we have observed over the course of these past few months.
We “ other women”, the quiet ones, are anxiously waiting to be heard in November. To underestimate our enthusiasm and resolve, as well as our strength in numbers, would be a big miscalculation.
Signed,
The “Other Women”of America
Proudly one of the “others”~Lisa Powell
Montgomery, Alabama

"We are in a battle for the soul of America......."


YA_YA 80F
1749 posts
10/11/2018 5:35 am

Ya know, its sad that we can't discuss politics in a civil manner.........Granted, I've been as guilty as any.......The naysayers can call me anything they wish, but I'm trying hard to turn over a new leaf........I hope and pray you will consider doing the same..........We ALL love this country, we just ALL think differently..........American needs our true fervor not our excessive frenzy!

Can we agree to disagree.........and move on?..........TODAY!

"We are in a battle for the soul of America......."


Abelle2 77F
28595 posts
10/11/2018 6:04 am

One wonderful thing about living in the U.S.A. is we do still have freedom to talk or go anywhere we choose.


Seattlechick8 62F
480 posts
10/11/2018 6:27 am

Lovely Blog


starwomyn 65F
5690 posts
10/11/2018 6:35 am

I have been appalled at what has been happening with the liberals. What happened to Sarah Huckabee in Lexington was totally out of line. Maybe the baker should have made the cake for the gay wedding but it was wrong to ruin him financially because he had religious issues with it. The women I travelled with for the Women's March were well organized. No Trump bashing, don't engage with agitators, and don't leave a mess. We were high fiving the police and thanking them for keeping the order. Not all groups operated by the same standard but considering the size of the march, there were minimal problems. The recent happenings in DC is mob mentality. It was the final straw. That is when I finally made the switch and I'm not the only one.

Don't Like Me. That's a Shame, I need a few minutes to recover from that tragedy.
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YA_YA 80F
1749 posts
10/11/2018 6:47 am

    Quoting starwomyn:
    I have been appalled at what has been happening with the liberals. What happened to Sarah Huckabee in Lexington was totally out of line. Maybe the baker should have made the cake for the gay wedding but it was wrong to ruin him financially because he had religious issues with it. The women I travelled with for the Women's March were well organized. No Trump bashing, don't engage with agitators, and don't leave a mess. We were high fiving the police and thanking them for keeping the order. Not all groups operated by the same standard but considering the size of the march, there were minimal problems. The recent happenings in DC is mob mentality. It was the final straw. That is when I finally made the switch and I'm not the only one.
We may not always agree Star, but I certainly admire your discernment!

"We are in a battle for the soul of America......."


bigblock46 72M
7825 posts
10/11/2018 8:28 am

When one sees people like Maxine Waters, Mazie Hirono just name a couple that are encouraging the disrespect that we are witnessing, it should come as no shock. Adding fuel to the fire is Madonna and her statement: " Yes, I have thought an awful lot of blowing up the White House" and Ashley Judd, a self-proclaimed “loud, vulgar, proud woman,” went to the extreme of comparing Trump to Hitler and referring to his Cabinet picks as “Nazis renamed."


Fossil_Fetcher 70M
9312 posts
10/11/2018 8:57 am

I love the sentiment but I give what I get. Until the leaders of the Democrat Party step and and demand that the violence STOP, there will be problems on the streets. Instead, we have Hillar and Holder actually promoting violence to attain their real goal of unseating the Republican majority.

I'm not sure they know who they are taking on.

🐘

Fossil



🐘 La marea rodó 🐘


hiramhankwilliam 95M
2862 posts
10/11/2018 9:33 am

    Quoting Fossil_Fetcher:
    I love the sentiment but I give what I get. Until the leaders of the Democrat Party step and and demand that the violence STOP, there will be problems on the streets. Instead, we have Hillar and Holder actually promoting violence to attain their real goal of unseating the Republican majority.

    I'm not sure they know who they are taking on.

    🐘

    Fossil


jack.

you staed as I say many times.

this bunch of pansy ass wimp have no clue who they are wanting to take on.

I know I am ready. I hope they chose me. I don't play nor yell or scream.

holder I wish I could chat with him one on one, he would change his way of talking

DEATH IS A CERTAIN, ETERNITY IS A CHOICE


sparkleflit 71F
3374 posts
10/11/2018 9:35 am

They "pray diligently over elections and political matters".......Yeah, like that's ever made a difference.......in other words, the "other women of America" are ineffectual, deluded doormats...exactly where the Patriarchy wants you.


Fossil_Fetcher 70M
9312 posts
10/11/2018 10:08 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    They "pray diligently over elections and political matters".......Yeah, like that's ever made a difference.......in other words, the "other women of America" are ineffectual, deluded doormats...exactly where the Patriarchy wants you.
Yeah, aren't you happy you aren't an American? I know most of us are glad you aren't.

✨⭐💥 Fossil 💥⭐✨



🐘 La marea rodó 🐘


starwomyn 65F
5690 posts
10/11/2018 10:17 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    They "pray diligently over elections and political matters".......Yeah, like that's ever made a difference.......in other words, the "other women of America" are ineffectual, deluded doormats...exactly where the Patriarchy wants you.
Not every woman is going to be politically active. Some of them have different priorities or perhaps they are busy taking care of a family. Perhaps they are active in their churches. Praying is a lot and so is voting. They are still productive when taking care of business in their own circle. This doesn't make them ineffectual, deluded doormats.

Don't Like Me. That's a Shame, I need a few minutes to recover from that tragedy.
C'est la vie


CarolinaPanthera 57F
1810 posts
10/11/2018 10:21 am

    Quoting hiramhankwilliam:
    jack.

    you staed as I say many times.

    this bunch of pansy ass wimp have no clue who they are wanting to take on.

    I know I am ready. I hope they chose me. I don't play nor yell or scream.

    holder I wish I could chat with him one on one, he would change his way of talking
You're such a badass.


CarolinaPanthera 57F
1810 posts
10/11/2018 10:25 am

    Quoting starwomyn:
    I have been appalled at what has been happening with the liberals. What happened to Sarah Huckabee in Lexington was totally out of line. Maybe the baker should have made the cake for the gay wedding but it was wrong to ruin him financially because he had religious issues with it. The women I travelled with for the Women's March were well organized. No Trump bashing, don't engage with agitators, and don't leave a mess. We were high fiving the police and thanking them for keeping the order. Not all groups operated by the same standard but considering the size of the march, there were minimal problems. The recent happenings in DC is mob mentality. It was the final straw. That is when I finally made the switch and I'm not the only one.
It's hilarious that you're "appalled at what's been happening with the liberals" while changing your loyalty to defending the biggest bully in America right now. You sure are "walking the walk" as MrJoe stated. I don't think you can get more hypocritical. Your true self has finally come out.


starwomyn 65F
5690 posts
10/11/2018 11:15 am

    Quoting CarolinaPanthera:
    It's hilarious that you're "appalled at what's been happening with the liberals" while changing your loyalty to defending the biggest bully in America right now. You sure are "walking the walk" as MrJoe stated. I don't think you can get more hypocritical. Your true self has finally come out.


I don't have to defend Trump. He's a big boy and has more money than I do. He's is uncouth, doesn't worry about political correctness and shoots off his mouth. That's a Gemini Trait. Leo Rising makes him a tad bit of a show-off and egotistical. He has managed to keep his zipper closed or at least is more discreet than Clinton. Trump is not the only one who like to haul out insults. Perhaps you can send him a resume and he'll give you a place in his cabinet. You would fit right in.

Don't Like Me. That's a Shame, I need a few minutes to recover from that tragedy.
C'est la vie


Fossil_Fetcher 70M
9312 posts
10/11/2018 11:43 am

    Quoting starwomyn:
    I don't have to defend Trump. He's a big boy and has more money than I do. He's is uncouth, doesn't worry about political correctness and shoots off his mouth. That's a Gemini Trait. Leo Rising makes him a tad bit of a show-off and egotistical. He has managed to keep his zipper closed or at least is more discreet than Clinton. Trump is not the only one who like to haul out insults. Perhaps you can send him a resume and he'll give you a place in his cabinet. You would fit right in.
Touché.

😂 🤣😂🤣😂

Fossil



🐘 La marea rodó 🐘


CarolinaPanthera 57F
1810 posts
10/11/2018 11:49 am

    Quoting starwomyn:
    I don't have to defend Trump. He's a big boy and has more money than I do. He's is uncouth, doesn't worry about political correctness and shoots off his mouth. That's a Gemini Trait. Leo Rising makes him a tad bit of a show-off and egotistical. He has managed to keep his zipper closed or at least is more discreet than Clinton. Trump is not the only one who like to haul out insults. Perhaps you can send him a resume and he'll give you a place in his cabinet. You would fit right in.
Thank you sweetheart, but I'm thinking you'd be a lot more qualified for the orange anus-in-chief's administration than I would. Maybe you'll run into him at the county fair sometime. Maybe float him a copy of your picture with him. He'd surely love that, and might even invite you to the White House for lunch, then to sleep on the floor of the Oval Office...after Kanye of course. Don't forget your MAGA hat!


sparkleflit 71F
3374 posts
10/11/2018 1:59 pm

Praying is not being "productive"......To think so is delusion.......Praying is what people do so they can tell themselves they did something, to make themselves feel better without putting out any effort, any risk, any action........


sparkleflit 71F
3374 posts
10/11/2018 2:04 pm

    Quoting starwomyn:
    I don't have to defend Trump. He's a big boy and has more money than I do. He's is uncouth, doesn't worry about political correctness and shoots off his mouth. That's a Gemini Trait. Leo Rising makes him a tad bit of a show-off and egotistical. He has managed to keep his zipper closed or at least is more discreet than Clinton. Trump is not the only one who like to haul out insults. Perhaps you can send him a resume and he'll give you a place in his cabinet. You would fit right in.
Well, you just outed yourself as deluded.......lol.....Astrology? I have noted your tendencies toward Magical thinking for years now, but to defend Trump with planetary placement has got to be the most goofy.....


bigblock46 72M
7825 posts
10/11/2018 3:01 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    Praying is not being "productive"......To think so is delusion.......Praying is what people do so they can tell themselves they did something, to make themselves feel better without putting out any effort, any risk, any action........
Here is something for your feeble Scientific mind to consider: Those who choose to pray find personalized comfort during hard times, according to a sociologist.

Source: University of Wisconsin-Madison


CarolinaPanthera 57F
1810 posts
10/11/2018 3:28 pm

    Quoting bigblock46:
    Here is something for your feeble Scientific mind to consider: Those who choose to pray find personalized comfort during hard times, according to a sociologist.

    Source: University of Wisconsin-Madison
That's basically what she just said, Trumpity, Dumpity, Doo.


CarolinaPanthera 57F
1810 posts
10/11/2018 3:31 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    Well, you just outed yourself as deluded.......lol.....Astrology? I have noted your tendencies toward Magical thinking for years now, but to defend Trump with planetary placement has got to be the most goofy.....
She's trying so hard to impress her new found family of Republicans who are welcoming her into the flock of delusion. She's a quick study.


MrsJoe 71F
9215 posts
10/11/2018 4:17 pm

The "silent majority" seems to be silent no more. Too bad "the sleeping giant" didn't wake up a couple of decades ago, but better late than never.

Life's short. Be sure you spend your time on the internet, arguing with strangers over politics.


sewg1941 77F
485 posts
10/11/2018 5:06 pm

    Quoting YA_YA:
    Ya know, its sad that we can't discuss politics in a civil manner.........Granted, I've been as guilty as any.......The naysayers can call me anything they wish, but I'm trying hard to turn over a new leaf........I hope and pray you will consider doing the same..........We ALL love this country, we just ALL think differently..........American needs our true fervor not our excessive frenzy!

    Can we agree to disagree.........and move on?..........TODAY!
First a teeny question: Is that you in the photo you have posted. Were you getting someone's autograph? She sure looks like you... same hair colour/cut and same glasses!

Now to the meat of the issue on the table. After doing a lot of reading I've come to the conclusion that women basically all want the same things but the packaging may be a little different - physical respect, equal pay for equal work, healthcare that really works etc. These are all issues that women can work to find common ground. Abortion seems to be the one stumbling block to finding agreement. So ... why not work to find agreement on everything else and deal with them together. The abortion issue is not going to go away, so it's time to cool the jets on both sides and deal with it calmly and cooly. It is possible to find common ground even on that if you really want to have agreement.


starwomyn 65F
5690 posts
10/11/2018 6:23 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    Praying is not being "productive"......To think so is delusion.......Praying is what people do so they can tell themselves they did something, to make themselves feel better without putting out any effort, any risk, any action........
You consider yourself an expert on what prayer is or isn't when you have no spiritual inclinations whatsoever. Maybe you should go to church or take a trip to the clue factory instead of making medications and shock treatment your higher power.

Don't Like Me. That's a Shame, I need a few minutes to recover from that tragedy.
C'est la vie


bigblock46 72M
7825 posts
10/11/2018 6:44 pm

    Quoting CarolinaPanthera:
    That's basically what she just said, Trumpity, Dumpity, Doo.
No it not and you know it Tweedledum.


sparkleflit 71F
3374 posts
10/11/2018 10:02 pm

    Quoting starwomyn:
    You consider yourself an expert on what prayer is or isn't when you have no spiritual inclinations whatsoever. Maybe you should go to church or take a trip to the clue factory instead of making medications and shock treatment your higher power.
Do you get all your exercise jumping to conclusions?......I am well acquainted with what prayer is and have spent lots of time in churches.....many churches. medications? Sounds like you're the one who needs a trip to the clue factory.......and shock treatment? More of your New Age Woo Woo ?


YA_YA 80F
1749 posts
10/12/2018 4:29 am

    Quoting sewg1941:
    First a teeny question: Is that you in the photo you have posted. Were you getting someone's autograph? She sure looks like you... same hair colour/cut and same glasses!

    Now to the meat of the issue on the table. After doing a lot of reading I've come to the conclusion that women basically all want the same things but the packaging may be a little different - physical respect, equal pay for equal work, healthcare that really works etc. These are all issues that women can work to find common ground. Abortion seems to be the one stumbling block to finding agreement. So ... why not work to find agreement on everything else and deal with them together. The abortion issue is not going to go away, so it's time to cool the jets on both sides and deal with it calmly and cooly. It is possible to find common ground even on that if you really want to have agreement.

Yes Sandy, it is me, you are very observant...........It was taken last Sunday aft at a local rally for our Ohio Atty Gen Mike DeWine, hopefully soon to be Governor..........he is signing a friends Ashland County flag.

Now to the big question: "Why not work to find agreement on everything else and deal with them together?".........Yeah, WHY NOT?

BOTH sides need to STOP alot of things to achieve that.........All I can do is try to change myself.........OTHERS need to do like wise...........BUT everytime I make a reasonable statement in post here, I'm called names and criticized immensely..........The "other side" seems to know everything and have all the answers............How in hell can one EVER have a civil conversation HERE in SFF?..............I GIVE UP!

"We are in a battle for the soul of America......."


starwomyn 65F
5690 posts
10/12/2018 1:18 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    Do you get all your exercise jumping to conclusions?......I am well acquainted with what prayer is and have spent lots of time in churches.....many churches. medications? Sounds like you're the one who needs a trip to the clue factory.......and shock treatment? More of your New Age Woo Woo ?
So you spend lots of time in churches but still have no clue about spirituality. That does seem to be a counterproductive use of your time.

Don't Like Me. That's a Shame, I need a few minutes to recover from that tragedy.
C'est la vie


CarolinaPanthera 57F
1810 posts
10/12/2018 1:34 pm

    Quoting starwomyn:
    So you spend lots of time in churches but still have no clue about spirituality. That does seem to be a counterproductive use of your time.
So does spending so much time 'protesting' your own political party.


sparkleflit 71F
3374 posts
10/12/2018 8:34 pm

    Quoting bigblock46:
    No it not and you know it Tweedledum.
Yes it is exactly what I said.....I said that prayer only benefits those that do the praying and that's what the sociologists said too.......


sparkleflit 71F
3374 posts
10/12/2018 8:45 pm

    Quoting starwomyn:
    So you spend lots of time in churches but still have no clue about spirituality. That does seem to be a counterproductive use of your time.
I know nothing about spirituality?.......What, because you think spirituality requires magical thinking?......Because I don't fit into your narrow parameters?........You seem to think Spirituality is a spectator sport and can only be had inside buildings that have been approved by the IRS as a tax break....or on an AA poster......Sad.


starwomyn 65F
5690 posts
10/12/2018 9:30 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    I know nothing about spirituality?.......What, because you think spirituality requires magical thinking?......Because I don't fit into your narrow parameters?........You seem to think Spirituality is a spectator sport and can only be had inside buildings that have been approved by the IRS as a tax break....or on an AA poster......Sad.
Spirituality doesn't mean mocking someone else's path. Why do you have the need to mock people who pray. What do you have the need to mock people with magickal thinking? Magick is affirmation and visualizes. What do you affirm and what is your vision If you don't think Spirituality can be found in a Church, why do you go to church. Why do you have a need to mock people in AA? Perhaps you sit on a hilltop by yourself and ridicule everyone around your in order to exalt what you perceive as a superior status.

Don't Like Me. That's a Shame, I need a few minutes to recover from that tragedy.
C'est la vie


starwomyn 65F
5690 posts
10/13/2018 12:08 am

    Quoting CarolinaPanthera:
    So does spending so much time 'protesting' your own political party.
What did the Peoples Climate Change March have to do with protesting about any of the political parties especially when folks from both parties participated in the March. In the Charlottesville Protest, which side was GOP and which side was Demos. Who were the bikers protesting in Ride to the Wall? What do you define as "so much time?" When people are protesting about the pipelines, eminent domain and property rights - when both parties have concerns about their property, which party prevails. Is it only the democrats who are concerned about mass incarceration or the drug crisis in WV. Did you try to buy tokens to get on to “Soul Train!”

Don't Like Me. That's a Shame, I need a few minutes to recover from that tragedy.
C'est la vie


sparkleflit 71F
3374 posts
10/13/2018 2:49 pm

    Quoting starwomyn:
    Spirituality doesn't mean mocking someone else's path. Why do you have the need to mock people who pray. What do you have the need to mock people with magickal thinking? Magick is affirmation and visualizes. What do you affirm and what is your vision If you don't think Spirituality can be found in a Church, why do you go to church. Why do you have a need to mock people in AA? Perhaps you sit on a hilltop by yourself and ridicule everyone around your in order to exalt what you perceive as a superior status.
If you actually read my posts instead of leaping to your assumptions, you would see that I was not mocking people who pray, but was disagreeing with the stated opinion of the blog, that praying is an activity that makes a difference in political outcomes.....that praying is a way to be "engaged" that "diligent prayer" is political action , shows "engagement" and is a way of speaking up. The blog also states that when women stay home, praying and staying silent is exercising the better aspects of their gender..... I think that's exactly what the Patriarchy hopes women do.....shut up and pray like a good woman should.....

And by the way, I saw you being respectful in a blog mocking the Hindu religion..........then, when several men mocked it, you switched and doubled down on the mocking......Interesting, isn't it, that several of those who were mocking someone else's Religion, have roasted me for what mocking theirs......Liszt even told me that I had no Human Decency because I made a joke about his religion.......The hypocrisy is mind-boggling...


CarolinaPanthera 57F
1810 posts
10/13/2018 3:04 pm

    Quoting starwomyn:
    What did the Peoples Climate Change March have to do with protesting about any of the political parties especially when folks from both parties participated in the March. In the Charlottesville Protest, which side was GOP and which side was Demos. Who were the bikers protesting in Ride to the Wall? What do you define as "so much time?" When people are protesting about the pipelines, eminent domain and property rights - when both parties have concerns about their property, which party prevails. Is it only the democrats who are concerned about mass incarceration or the drug crisis in WV. Did you try to buy tokens to get on to “Soul Train!”
I was talking about you.


starwomyn 65F
5690 posts
10/13/2018 3:49 pm

So what do you know about me. I marched in the People's Climate Change March with the Sierra Club. How is that protesting against one or the other political party when people from both sides were participating. You need to get your bum out of the window. You are clueless.

Don't Like Me. That's a Shame, I need a few minutes to recover from that tragedy.
C'est la vie