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MrsJoe 76F
17309 posts
4/2/2018 7:44 pm

It is what it is..... and she is who and how she is.
But thank you for explaining the difference between an atheist and an anti-theist. I was not familiar with the term, but it makes a lot of sense and gives me more understanding.
From what I read, and yes I did read it, many of different spiritual leanings were offended. I think we take offense at too many things..... I was not offended, I was saddened.


Be a prism, spreading God's light and love, not a mirror reflecting the world's hatred.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
4/2/2018 8:14 pm

I posted an Easter/April Fools joke and I got majorly attacked by the privileged Christian hordes of SFF.......I was merely defending myself...and here you are adding , your boring, so predictable Christian bullying tactics to the mix......so what's new?. .....I was astonished too......by the insanity unleashed by my joke....
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sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
4/2/2018 8:31 pm

    Quoting MrsJoe:
    It is what it is..... and she is who and how she is.
    But thank you for explaining the difference between an atheist and an anti-theist. I was not familiar with the term, but it makes a lot of sense and gives me more understanding.
    From what I read, and yes I did read it, many of different spiritual leanings were offended. I think we take offense at too many things..... I was not offended, I was saddened.
The label "Atheist" is not about what I am, it's about what I'm not......It says nothing about what i believe and only mentions one thing I don't believe. Anti-Theist is just yet another of Listz's labels that he apparently has a manic need to attach to everything he comes across.......I could label you a Pro-Theist or an Anti-Atheist and it would be just as valid.

You are an Anti-Theist yourself when it comes to Allah or Brahman or Thor or thousands of other Gods.........You reject all Gods but one and I just reject one more than you.........


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
4/2/2018 8:33 pm

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You were obviously looking in the mirror when you wrote that comment........


hermitinthecity 70M
1691 posts
4/2/2018 9:25 pm

She's just a Satanist pretending to be atheist, she shames the name atheist.

Judgment Day will be interesting - and all paths lead there.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
4/2/2018 11:28 pm

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You posted this blog......It was already hashed, but you came in and saw the coals and had to start it back up......Why?.....Because you think you might get lots of comments......I've noticed how you use the number of comments on your blogs to prop up your ego.......I see you and Maisie mine this site for comments, choosing the most controversial topics and phrasing and encouraging conflict.......Why did you post a blog about this? Can't come up with anything from your own life to share?


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
4/2/2018 11:32 pm

    Quoting hermitinthecity:
    She's just a Satanist pretending to be atheist, she shames the name atheist.
Your ignorance knows no bounds......You imagine that someone who doesn't believe in God and the supernatural believes in Satan, who is part of your Religion and is also supernatural......You have beans for brains....


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
4/2/2018 11:33 pm

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Wow, now I have lost all respect for you.......


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
4/2/2018 11:51 pm

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You are obviously talking about yourself.......you are as naive as a little girl........you are so naive that you can't imagine anyone having a full life unless they think the same as you......Surely you realize that billions of people have and are living full, rich, fulfilling lives without hitching their wagons to a pre-established system dictated by tradition.......Surely you are not that naive. By the way, having observed the tepid paucity of your contributions to this site over the years, I have never seen even a hint of you having a full rich life........not much of an example.......You should try "throwing a tantrum" once in a while, or are you too afraid you might have some fun?


Katie_au_lait 78F
7026 posts
4/3/2018 1:59 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    The label "Atheist" is not about what I am, it's about what I'm not......It says nothing about what i believe and only mentions one thing I don't believe. Anti-Theist is just yet another of Listz's labels that he apparently has a manic need to attach to everything he comes across.......I could label you a Pro-Theist or an Anti-Atheist and it would be just as valid.

    You are an Anti-Theist yourself when it comes to Allah or Brahman or Thor or thousands of other Gods.........You reject all Gods but one and I just reject one more than you.........
He doesn't understand that Sparkle...to see he and maisie "defending" Christian faith" is hugely comical... if not deeply hypocritical! They don't believe in God any more than you or I do... they just use belief in the same way they use politics...to mock others. This blog is so hilarious I haven't stopped laughing!

And they think I have no sense of humour!


Seattlechick8 67F

4/3/2018 6:43 am

Boogie -Great Reply- That Blog Had Nothing To Do With
April Fool's- Just Another Stab At Believers


Rentier1

4/3/2018 7:46 am

I would never characterise the killing of someone who never existed that way.
It's more in the novel or short story genre.


kneedtwoplease 68M
1189 posts
4/3/2018 11:47 am

I'm am glad you called her out on this one.
"Just joking".... weak
As an aside, "porn" has taken on a newer (to me anyway) definition,
PORN:
emphasizing the sensuous or sensational aspects of a nonsexual subject and stimulating a compulsive interest in their audience.
I get her humor/sarcastic intent, but I think its all one way like the rest of them when anyone brings up things they believe


starwomyn 70F
8871 posts
4/3/2018 1:55 pm

Send her a carton of PEEPS for snuffing.

Abracadabra


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
4/3/2018 3:49 pm

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You sure like sticking your nose into places it doesn't belong.....You don't have the guts to share your own beliefs, but instead you represent others. Did you read your comment? Nothing personal, no "I" or "me"......just "she" "her" "you"and a dozen "they"s.......You are a fishwife searching for an opportunity to harangue others, and you never, ever have the courage or honesty to expose any vulnerability.......but your methods inadvertently exposes your narrow, shallow and rigid thinking...


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
4/3/2018 4:23 pm

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First you tell Katy what Liszt was thinking when he wrote this blog.....then you lambaste and insult Katy because she doesn't have the same inside info about his intentions as his wife does. Then you presume to tell Katy what she's thinking and then you accuse her of making stuff up. So this right you have to make stuff up about others.....Is that a God-given right only for citizens of the US?........LOL.........

You are constantly haranguing people for not being correct about what you believe and then you reinforce your refusal to share what you do believe.

Maisie.......That;s crazy. Why are you commenting on this blog about beliefs if you refuse to actually participate.....shit or get off the pot.......Do you see this blog as an opportunity to insult and harangue ? It sure looks that way.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
4/3/2018 4:43 pm

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Yup.....first you criticise me for not cheerfully accepting the prejudicial,nasty comments......that I asked for it, then you explain that you won't share because it makes you vulnerable.......new depths of hypocrisy.....You and Maisie are the most guilty ow "weaponizing" pirhanas on this site......Take this blog, for instance........You saw an opportunity to weaponize and you took it, but neither you or Maisie participate except criticise others for what they share and lambaste us for breaking some arbitrary rules that you think don't apply to you.....

For instance, Maisie tells Katie that you didn't intend this blog to be humorous and then insulted Katy for not getting that. Obviously, Maisie is in a privileged position when it comes to knowing your intentions........but more obviously, from my point of view is the fact that you piggy-backed on my blog that WAS intended to be humorous.......Neither of you make any effort to understand the humour I was expressing......You both immediately leap to defending your "side"........Your mindset of not having the courage to take personal risks on this site is ignored as you "inform" me that I got what I deserved is exactly what keeps this site running in the boring, predictable, narrow rut that it does.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
4/3/2018 4:59 pm

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You may have written this blog, but you wrote it about a joke that I MADE...........You are so concerned that everyone interpret your intentions in writing this blog but it seems not to occur to you at all, to attempt to understand what my intention was in posting the blog you based this one on......You just chugg along on your rails making assumptions .....You and the many others who have never playfully or mischievously or creatively approached what you have been indoctrinated to believe......Are you aware of the character of the "Fool"?......


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
4/3/2018 5:28 pm

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I don't think Katie really cares what you and Maisie's religious beliefs are.....I know I don't......What is so maddening is that you both make assumptions and presume to know what our beliefs are, but if we dare do the same back we get viciously insulted and harangued.......You can probably see why that is maddening.......It's a 2 way street.

You say this blog is about human decency and respect for those who who hold different religious beliefs........But you apparently are not holding yourselves to the same standards.......Look at the comments on this blog from Christians......accusing me of being a Satanist for instance.......how long was that thought process? 20 seconds at most.........indecently short.

So the Tennessee Tag Team sees themselves as the arbiters of Human Decency and respect for those who hold different religious beliefs.....where was the Christian decency and respect for my beliefs?......It was instant judgement by your criteria....The person that called me a Satanist, or those who belittled and insulted me for not buying into their belief-system........how is it possible to be as arrogant and presumptuous, while at the same time being so intellectually limited?..........


Rentier1

4/4/2018 6:28 am

If you think that you need to do more reading on the topic.

I recommend you start with The Pagan Christ.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
4/5/2018 12:04 pm

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The Teflon Twins strike again. Yes you offer your views and that's all you ever offer.......Liszt says it's because it makes him feel vulnerable to offer anything personal........Take this blog, for instance.......It is a piggy back blog based on something I said in another blog which was based on a joke I posted......Nothing to do with Liszt or you......Both of you condemning and criticising me, making assumptions, telling me what I believe.......telling me what I do.........yet you refuse to participate honestly and openly in any discussion......Of course your job isn't to defend me, last thing I would want........But your job is to be a Human Being.......and you seem to be nothing but an arguing machine..........What's your dog in this Maisie?.........You tell me what I believe, but if anyone dares to extrapolate your personal beliefs from your extremely stingy information, you blow a gasket and get on the defensive.......


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
4/5/2018 9:42 pm

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You mock and attack others constantly......this blog is an attack-blog......Look at you......telling me that I constantly mischaracterize the the remarks of other, while doing the same thing yourself.....but your self-image tells you that you are the exception and are always correct.......This blog is an example of you doing exactly what you accuse me of doing....you are attacking me for your interpretation of my words........I'm not so much offended as astounded by your hypocrisy and utter lack of insight.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
4/6/2018 11:43 am

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You don't like my choice of adjectives? You think I mischaracterize you for the purpose of "seeking to draw blood"?..........LOL.....like I said, your hypocrisy and lack of insight astound me.......no, that's no longer true.....it just bores me......The Teflon Twins Arguing Machines.....


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
4/6/2018 10:06 pm

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So you see this conversation as a fight, eh?.........LOL.....We come from very different cultural milieus.....You refuse to reveal your religious beliefs, but you live in the US Bible-Belt and that obviously informs your attitude to a large extent. I have lived in a culture that is largely Astheistic all my adult life. Religion is a private affair here and people who like to worship with others go to churches, but there are many different denominations and religion is never brought into the public sphere.

It took me a while to understand why people on this site were so upset by the meme I posted......It was widely shared on the internet and chuckled over. I found it on my facebook feed and it was received with amusement.....I certainly didn't see any indications of anger or the extreme reactions seen on this site. I still don't understand how anyone can accept that image as a serious representation of Jesus......It's ridiculous..........No one here responded to my comment indicating the ridiculousness of the image......Who would have thought that any Christian could like it?......Or, perhaps you can enlighten me?.......Do American Evangelicals accept any image that someone says is a representation of Christ?....Or is the one I posted their preferred imagery?.....What is the criteria for an acceptable image? What is it based on?.....Certainly not on history or genetics"......Maybe Jesus being all magical and stuff rose up from his death and transformed into a Caucasian and received a dozen meters of starched and chlorine-bleached cotton from the 21st century......Maybe they were those great sheets Maisie was going on about.....They certainly would look just like that wrapped around a guy... it must gave just magically folded and draped itself like that.........Whatever.......What makes that image an image of their God?...........

I did get a glimpse into what was going on, when Bigblock used the word "Blasphemy".......I haven't heard that word for more than half a century, except in the context of Muslim extremism.......It didn't even occur to me that blasphemy was still a thing anywhere in the West......Thing is though, that the concept of blasphemy only applies to the Religious.....it doesn't apply to Atheists.....I hope y'all realize that.

Then there is the gorgeous piece of prose I came up with......I was really proud of that .....you know, that so outraged you that you felt it deserved a blog of it's own.....an outrage blog it would seem. Again.....different culture, I keep forgetting. I live in a culture where the word "porn" can be a metaphor.....where people can appreciate words without immediately taking them personally....without applying their knee-jerk defensiveness of their religious icons......when you know I don't comply with the idea that supernatural beings are in control.....specific supernaturals......with myths and names and books and tax-breaks attached...........The whole conglomerate is just another collective fantasy to me..........You accuse me of lacking Human decency, but to me, your Religion is indecent.......The Easter story especially........Sorry, but we have very different ideas of what Human decency is.......It's not up to you to define all of Humanity by your standards.......