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Unsafe_Sax_54 69M
1228 posts
7/25/2015 8:11 am
Voices in your head, Blower?


"Just QUIT....Haven't you had ENOUGH!!!! For the Love of God....Just STOP IT"

by: LeafLover 64M

Must be tough having those voices to go with the smell of the sewer in your head, huh?


hermitinthecity 70M
1696 posts
7/26/2015 6:53 am

I own guns, 8 to be precise and I'd like one more. I enjoy the sport. I put holes in paper (targets), shoot a few clays with the 12 gauge, plink at metal toys I've made and bought for the purpose etc. I rarely hunt but if I do I never pull the trigger on anything I'm not going to fully use for meat. If I'm not sure of the shot, I dont pull the trigger. I'd hate to wound it, I dont believe in cruelty, not even if it's a ferral animal. Has to be a clean hit.

The laws here are so strict, the police can come and check your place without a warrant if you own a gun at any time they like.

The guns must be locked up in a safe that's bolted to the floor and wall, or weighs over 150kg (330 lbs), then it doesnt have to be bolted.

Ammo has to be stored separately from the guns in locked boxes (most safes have a "safe within a safe" with separate key for ammo).

Guns are not to be visible while being transported, they must be carried in either a hard case or soft case bag so no member of the public feels threatened.

Only the owner is allowed to know where the key is, if he/she tells their partner or anyone else and it's found out the guns will be confiscated and license revoked.

License now takes a few days of training to obtain with all the paperwork and hefty fees entailed.

Each gun after being bought (usually 2-3 times the U.S. price) is kept by the gun shop until the paperwork (model, serial number and all details) is sent off to the fireams branch of the police and then it's stamped and returned. This is usually around 2-4 weeks. You have 2 weeks in which to register the gun for a fee ($29.00 and rising) at your local police station once it has come in the post.

You have to notify within 2 weeks of change of address where you have moved to.

You cannot buy ammo without showing your license, and it's expensive.

No ammo can be left lying around loose, you'll lose your guns and license if they see it on an inspection.

These rules are for rifles, pistols have even more restrictions and licensing. Can take up to a year before you get your pistol on the range with all the paperwork and waiting times, and with each separate caliber you own as well there's a separate form and about a year's wait again.

Most shooters here are responsible, the main gun offences are by criminals and bike gangs who will always obtain them illegally anyway.

Now it's being tossed around that all gun owners must be a member of a club. I am so it doesnt bother me, but I dont think that's necessary.

There's different rules in different states, eg, bolt and magazine must be kept separate from the rifle while stored in one state but not another. Same with transporting them. In one state a rifle was classed as 'military' and therefore not allowed, but the owner sold it to a buyer in another state where it was allowed.

Trigger locks are a good idea, I use these as the policeman who registererd my last 2 guns was a keen shooter himself and told me that no court could say that a trigger locked gun was dangerous even with the bolt and mag in. It's useless until it's removed.

The things we have to put up with here ...........

The downside of all this is, if a buglar or molestor came into your house, you'd better use a knife or a baseball bat, it would take you 5-10 minutes before you could get all your stuff together.
I believe the reason the law is this way though because if you do shoot someone it will be classed as premeditated murder. Why? Because you've had all that time to cool down, but you still methodically went through the procedure of getting it all set up to shoot and then did.

To all the responsible shooters out there in the U.S. I say, "Enjoy what you got while you got it."

Judgment Day will be interesting - and all paths lead there.


Unsafe_Sax_54 replies on 7/26/2015 9:01 am:
BIG differences! It has been many years since I bought/sold a gun through a dealer or anyone that requires that the gun goes on record in my name. I reload my ammo so the cost is relatively low and I can "tune" my loads to each gun. The increase in accuracy is startling, especially with my long guns. My AR-15 shoots sub-1/3-moa. My .308 is more accurate.

People who do not shoot for enjoyment do not understand the skills required to shoot well. Most have only seen John Wayne, Bruce Willis and a host of others on a screen, hitting everything they look at. The reality is starkly different: if you look at police shootings, you'll often see things like "137 shots fired. Perp was not hit. 6 cars, three buildings and a number of innocent bystanders were shot."

hermitinthecity 70M
1696 posts
7/28/2015 12:07 am

Hi,
I have a friend who reloads my ammo for me as I havent really been interested in doing my own reloads, it's about half the price. He's 'tuned' my loads or rather 'de tuned' my loads to suit the gun. Instead of 47g he's put in 45g into my .308 and reckons it's better accuracy. His son has the same as mine (Savage) and it's improved heaps by a tiny bit less powder. Some other guns need a tad more, levels 'em out in flight better. It's all experimental till you get what you want.

I got a Tikka .223 recently because the .308 is too big for what I want to hunt. I'd like to shoot some feral goats & the .308 just messes them up too much unless it's a head shot, but at long range I want a heart shot. I want the meat to be in good condition and the animal easy to clean.

If the police shoot that bad then they all need sacking and install another police force that's trained properly. Either that or sack their shooting instructor and put one in that can really teach, no policeman should carry a gun unless they were proficiant. What good does that do? They only 'look tough' lol.

Judgment Day will be interesting - and all paths lead there.