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Unsafe_Sax_54 64M
1756 posts
11/9/2018 1:15 pm
For Our Resident Drunken Insect


Regarding the SolCal Shooter: Yes, he served in Afghanistan (Marine). Yes, it was a "hot" province (are they any others in that part of the world?). Yes, he was busier doing PR work than being the warrior he was trained to be.

Now Jiminy Cockroach thinks PTSD is somehow funny. Speaking from personal experience, it is not. It would be unwise of him to share his stupidity with an Ex-Military sufferer - we sometimes don't have the restraint we should.

But then, drunks can't control themselves very well, either.


Unsafe_Sax_54 64M
1294 posts
11/9/2018 1:18 pm

Heard an interesting observation at the VA Med Center today: "I HATE it when someone says 'I know how you feel'".

Except for a small cadre, people have NO IDEA how a PTSD sufferer feels.


1gasilverhead2 78M
3933 posts
11/9/2018 1:59 pm

And, when someone says, " he was a nice fellow before he went into service now look what has happen to him; he is nothing but a drunk".

No one in civilian life has any idea what so ever happen to him.


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The beginning of life, conception..


deborahsu2 78F
2853 posts
11/9/2018 6:36 pm

Its a pity that the ones who feel that way toward our military men and women can't be sent over and let them find out for themselves what has changed these people who have been in a war.


Wangwei 66M
4 posts
11/9/2018 6:45 pm

    Quoting 1gasilverhead2:
    And, when someone says, " he was a nice fellow before he went into service now look what has happen to him; he is nothing but a drunk".

    No one in civilian life has any idea what so ever happen to him.
Curious to learn what could have happened to this particular cold blooded mass murderer when he had been in military service? Should we defend a terrorist because he happened to be a retired military personnel?


boogie7102 73F
355 posts
11/9/2018 10:30 pm

    Quoting Unsafe_Sax_54:
    Heard an interesting observation at the VA Med Center today: "I HATE it when someone says 'I know how you feel'".

    Except for a small cadre, people have NO IDEA how a PTSD sufferer feels.
I saw the wounds on Okinawa when they were dressed and cleaned up. A warm embrace my friend. Salute


jiminycricket1 68M
9813 posts
11/10/2018 3:41 am

Post Trump Stress Disorder...... I must have been drunk when I wrote that?

It's a joke????.. maybe to you...but it was intended to make you think

However i did say maybe....maybe because we DON'T know for sure, what that is
But does it exist? There is some evidence to that....mail bombers and anti-Semetic killers.. For me, it not about blaming... it about contributing factors, and about blaming contributing factor, or using them as an excuse

Post Traumatic Stress Disorder exists too.. there is evidence to that. And certainly it's a contributing factor. But it too.. is not a reason....unless almost everybody reacts the same.

In war there are "bombs" that go off next to you...it does mean something... as it stays in your mind...but there are "bombs" in peace time too.. the stay in your mind...and go off in your head....You elected Trump to be the "bomb", now you got to live with the "bomb".. NO excuses

Well men in Service, in war, don't all react the same..
People in poverty don't all react the same
Black people don't all react the same
Immigrants don't all react the same
Abused kids, don't all react the same
People who hate Trump don't all react same
People who hate liberals don't all react the same

You get to make a choice... Is it a reason or an excuse?
But to me, you can't pick one and ignore the other

I say you're not asking the right people.

Ask the Mother who's child died
Ask the mother who screams for more gun control.
Ask the veteran's family who died trying to protect others from another veteran with PTSD
Ask the store owner who was robbed
Ask the the people who where in the synagogue
Asked the kids in Parkview
Ask the democrats..who were mailed bombs
Ask the abused child ..who's parent was abused.

Blaming the caused is what we do.. but the cause is what needs to fixed..and not used as an excuse.
it's not just you.. I'm not picking on You.. For Liberal too... who use poverty, the color of one's skin, or having been abused as an excuse too.


1gasilverhead2 78M
3933 posts
11/10/2018 6:06 am

    Quoting Wangwei:
    Curious to learn what could have happened to this particular cold blooded mass murderer when he had been in military service? Should we defend a terrorist because he happened to be a retired military personnel?
Wangwei, if you cannot stand with our military they will welcome you to stand in front of them.

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The beginning of life, conception..


jiminycricket1 68M
9813 posts
11/10/2018 6:06 am

I don't know what it is to have PTSD.....And I hope I never have to find out what it is to have Post Trump Stress Disorder.. I know I'll have the Stress just don't know about the Disorder.

But then.. as I have been told..
I don't know what it is to be Black, or illegal,
I don't know what it is to be abused or be dirt poor...
I don't know what it is to be r*ped, or a woman
I don't know what it is to be oppressed and unequal, or a victim of society
I don't know what it is to HATE or be HATED?

I have been told.. what I know is shit... or I don't know shit...I wish people would make up their mind.


Rentier2 74M
167 posts
11/10/2018 6:50 am

    Quoting Wangwei:
    Curious to learn what could have happened to this particular cold blooded mass murderer when he had been in military service? Should we defend a terrorist because he happened to be a retired military personnel?
Certainly, because they are heroes.

Exceptions will be made for Muslims, of course.


Unsafe_Sax_54 64M
1294 posts
11/10/2018 8:29 am

Yes, Cockroach. Ignorance is your strongest trait. Your first rambling dissertation on PTSD reminded us.


CarolinaPanthera 57F
2004 posts
11/10/2018 10:53 am

    Quoting deborahsu2:
    Its a pity that the ones who feel that way toward our military men and women can't be sent over and let them find out for themselves what has changed these people who have been in a war.
I agree 100%. Let's send your president over and let him find out.


CarolinaPanthera 57F
2004 posts
11/10/2018 10:58 am

    Quoting 1gasilverhead2:
    Wangwei, if you cannot stand with our military they will welcome you to stand in front of them.
Not all military are pro-Trump. Maybe they would welcome him to stand in front of them.


Unsafe_Sax_54 replies on 11/11/2018 5:59 am:
That's so funny. Give warriors a choice between shooting barry and Donald, and there wouldn't be enough left of barry to wipe up with a single square of toilet paper.

Ditto hilly.

Maisie2013 67F
18828 posts
11/11/2018 6:33 am

    Quoting Wangwei:
    Curious to learn what could have happened to this particular cold blooded mass murderer when he had been in military service? Should we defend a terrorist because he happened to be a retired military personnel?
No one is defending a mass murderer. Law enforcement is looking for reasons. Why? Because if this is someone who slipped thru a loophole at the VA health system, we can look to fix that. Instead, the usual suspects are trying to blame Trump. Had he used a rifle, they would still be screaming about " assault weapons" , which, btw, is not a firearms industry term, but one created by politicians.

The very ill man did not fit into the media and the Democrats convenient pigeon holes - he was not wearing a MAGA hat, did not use an AR-15, and was not a " right wing nut"- so they stopped talking about this. Funny how that works.


boogie7102 73F
355 posts
11/11/2018 6:33 pm

    Quoting Wangwei:
    Curious to learn what could have happened to this particular cold blooded mass murderer when he had been in military service? Should we defend a terrorist because he happened to be a retired military personnel?
He was not "retired military personnel".


bob77O21__ 75M
8029 posts
12/1/2018 10:13 pm

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    I don't know what it is to have PTSD.....And I hope I never have to find out what it is to have Post Trump Stress Disorder.. I know I'll have the Stress just don't know about the Disorder.

    But then.. as I have been told..
    I don't know what it is to be Black, or illegal,
    I don't know what it is to be abused or be dirt poor...
    I don't know what it is to be r*ped, or a woman
    I don't know what it is to be oppressed and unequal, or a victim of society
    I don't know what it is to HATE or be HATED?

    I have been told.. what I know is shit... or I don't know shit...I wish people would make up their mind.
I've made up my mind.

Both are correct.