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kneedtwoplease 68M
133 posts
7/31/2017 7:11 pm
And Voter Fraud


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The arguments are numerous and vociferous. First, Democrats are calling the investigation a look into voter suppression. They have long argued that actions taken to decrease illegal voting only serve to prevent eligible voters from participating in democracy. They also point out that these laws disproportionately affect low income and minority groups. They’re right, after a fashion, but we’ll get to that in a minute.

The left also says that the investigation is an assault on democracy itself and that questioning the legitimacy of election results is bad for the process. Somehow, the irony of this statement eludes them. They also like to quote a study that suggests voter fraud is extremely rare and doesn’t require action. Finally, they claim that the investigation is a violation of privacy rights, and it is on that ground that multiple states have refused to provide the requested information.

Let’s take a look at each of these arguments individually.

Voter Suppression

The left claims that voter ID laws restrict voting and disproportionately impact minorities. These are both true statements that are misleading nonetheless. First, the laws are absolutely designed to suppress votes: illegal votes. But, we can’t know how effective they are without President Trump’s investigation.

Second, the minority statement is technically true. When you compare voter turnout across states that do and do not have ID laws and then normalize those numbers by population distribution, then you find that a larger percentage of black voters are skipping the polls, and it correlates with “voter suppression” laws.

Did that sound complicated? It has to in order to mislead you. Here’s the raw truth. Voter ID laws makes it so voting requires the same identification as buying alcohol. The same groups that would struggle to vote would also struggle to drink, yet you don’t see that correlation in the studies.

More importantly, greater than 50 percent of “suppressed” voters are low-income, working-class whites. This is a group that staunchly favors President Trump. The disproportionate effect is just an extension of the size of population. If something impacts 50 black and 50 white voters, then because there are fewer black Americans, it disproportionately affects them. In reality, Trump likely lost more votes to ID laws than Clinton did.

Voter Fraud Doesn’t Happen

A few years ago, there was a study that showed how rare voter fraud was. The left quotes it all the time. The problem? It only looked at a very narrow and specific type of fraud. According to the study, there have been fewer than a dozen cases across the nation of people casting illegal votes by posing as the deceased. That’s the only thing the study measured. Within the last year, a separate study looked at voter eligibility in Virginia. It found that roughly 2,000 ineligible votes were cast and counted in 2016 alone, and it is the basis for the new investigation. Imagine how much larger that number might be in border states like California.

Invasion of Privacy

It is true that turning over the information requested for the investigation would include names, addresses and other sensitive personal information. It’s also true that said information is already being held and stored by the states. How is handing that data to the federal government an invasion of privacy?

Election Legitimacy

It’s hard not to laugh at this. First, Republicans showed us that voting machines can in fact be hacked. The left assured us it was impossible and we shouldn’t worry. Then, they attacked the legitimacy of the election because Donald Trump won. After that, they showed us that voting machines can in fact be hacked. Now, they tell us that statements that question election results are undemocratic? I’ll leave it at that.

The Hard Truth

The notion that you have nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide can lead to dangerous thinking. In this case, it’s right on the money. There is already irrefutable evidence that widespread voter fraud is happening, and the one study that actually happened suggests that it could be on the scale of millions of votes.

The left lost their core demographic when they abandoned working-class America. They need illegal votes to stay ahead. They are fully aware of what they have been doing, and they know that proof of their corruption will be their end. They will fight every step of the way to prevent any commission or study from further revealing the truth, but they will ultimately fail.

~ American Liberty Report

kneedtwoplease 68M
1189 posts
7/31/2017 7:13 pm

got an ID for that?


Rentier1

8/1/2017 5:50 am

One of the most obvious examples of voter suppression is the denial of the vote to felons.

Felons are disproportionately Blacks and Latinos.

Taking away a felon's right to vote makes about as much sense as taking away his right to have a passport.


Rentier1

8/2/2017 6:30 am

    Quoting Fossil_Fetcher:
    Isn't it ironic that the liberals are screaming about Russian tampering in the voter process but refusing to cooperate with investigations of voter tampering in their own party?

    Fossil

I find it ironic that Americans generally are screaming about it when the US tries to rig elections quite regularly.

The Ukraine is a recent instance of that.