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I had no expectations of anything coming out of the meeting except perhaps a better line of communication between them. But two things did strike me as odd. One was the timing of the announced indictments of Russians. Was it meant to make the meeting more uncomfortable? Two was Putin's statement about the indictments. He said something along the lines of if they co-operated with them, he would expect return co-operation from us about someone who had made a lot of money in Russia but avoided taxes on it somehow and contributed huge amounts into the hiLIARy campaign. It all moved so fast, and was kind of hard to follow because of the interpreters, but that was the gist of what I thought he said. Haven't seen anything about it yet on any news channels. Be a prism, spreading God's light and love, not a mirror reflecting the world's hatred.
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7/17/2018 8:06 am |
I think Mr. Trump is the target of three cabals - the FBI, the US intelligence agencies, and the DOJ. They are obviously trying to undermine his office because he is going to clean the swamp, and that will mean dismissals and reductions in power of all three of those. The recent Senate hearing showed clear evidence of the existence of the FBI cabal. The announcement of Russian interference just prior to Helsinki is clear evidence of a DOJ cabal. The intelligence community is more sneaky, of course, since that is the nature of the job, so one has to infer in that case. Mr. Trump is well aware of these machinations by traitors within the US, and he was quite right not to raise the matter with his good pal Vlad, with whom is going to ensure that peace and good governance reign supreme in both nations.
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I think Mr. Trump is the target of three cabals - the FBI, the US intelligence agencies, and the DOJ. They are obviously trying to undermine his office because he is going to clean the swamp, and that will mean dismissals and reductions in power of all three of those. The recent Senate hearing showed clear evidence of the existence of the FBI cabal. The announcement of Russian interference just prior to Helsinki is clear evidence of a DOJ cabal. The intelligence community is more sneaky, of course, since that is the nature of the job, so one has to infer in that case. Mr. Trump is well aware of these machinations by traitors within the US, and he was quite right not to raise the matter with his good pal Vlad, with whom is going to ensure that peace and good governance reign supreme in both nations. Be a prism, spreading God's light and love, not a mirror reflecting the world's hatred.
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7/17/2018 8:36 am |
Bike, I believe you meant this as sarcasm but you may be quite closer to the truth in much of it than you know. Jamais! But I have absolutely no doubt that you think my satirical musings to be true.
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That's what happens when a KGB operative goes up against a KFC fool......
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Moi, sarcastic? Jamais! But I have absolutely no doubt that you think my satirical musings to be true. And I also think that the Russian interference is far less influential on our elections than that of the so called news media. There is too much biased opinions given out as news these days, from all sides! Be a prism, spreading God's light and love, not a mirror reflecting the world's hatred.
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7/17/2018 12:13 pm |
I just heard that Mr. Trump said he misspoke in Helsinki on the Russian hacking. I hope that this is just a tactic on his part to lull the three cabals working against him into somnolence. Once they are off guard, he will strike with a mighty flourish of his pen and finish them off.
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7/17/2018 3:14 pm |
Merci, M. Einstein.
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Ah, so you are calling Trump an innocent fowl served up to Putin......See, my metaphor works in several interpretations.
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You mean we had to wait 24 hours for this load of bullshit? It took you that long to find a Soviet apologist like Cohen ( you know him , the guy who used propaganda straight from the Kremlin to justify Putin's annexation of the Crimean and parts of Ukraine) to quote in a pathetic attempt to justify your President throwing his own security agencies under the bus? It would be laughable if it was not so bloody dangerous. Watching the sycophants twisting logic into a pretzel in order to redefine treason as patriotism is just watching ass licking at its worst. Kennedy did not tell Kruschev that the missiles in Cuba were OK by him so that he would not provoke the Soviet bear, he faced down the Soviet leader and won the day. Even Reagan had the wit to say to Gorbachev - 'Tear down this wall', and he was suffering from Alzheimers at the time. Either you are saying that the Mango Mussolini does not have the balls for the job or you are saying he is so stupid he managed to mix up would with wouldn't and said something diametrically opposed to what he meant. Trying to deflect to Korea and obfuscating with weasel words about the reaction being from "most of the media, Democrats and anti-trump people" will not wash. Damnit even Neil Cavuto (and you do not get much more conservative than him) called the orange dolt's performance "Disgusting" and opined:- “I’m sorry, it’s the only way I feel. it’s not a right or left thing to me, it’s just wrong,” he said. “A U.S. president on foreign soil talking to our biggest enemy or adversary or competitor … is essentially letting the guy get away with this, and not even offering a mild criticism. That sets us back a lot.” If ANY other President had done anything remotely as craven and unpatriotic as this you would be the first ones baying for his head. Can you all spell the word HYPOCRITES?
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Do you always deal in non sequiturs? Your opinion about Kruschev's feelings and the jump to your ridiculous statement that I would rather see thermonuclear war does not even make sense. Improving relations with Russia by allowing them to get away with obvious and well evidenced interference in a US election , with hegemony in Eastern Europe and not even admonishing them for such misdeeds is appeasement at best and, coupled with betraying his own security and intelligence forces, treasonous at worst. You cannot defend this so you do not even make the attempt. That is significant. As to you FOX news bullshit about London what in heaven's name has that got to do with this discussion? Even in the context of the other irrelevancies in your reply this is a stinker. Unable to argue the original point you fly off at a ridiculous tangent. I wonder if you can even imagine how pathetic that is?
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There is NOTHING in your original post which pertains in ANY way to London so we can remove that irrelevance for a start. I would have thought that the answer to your three questions was clearly stated in what I wrote but perhaps nuance is lost on you. To be blunt the answer to your three questions can be summed up in one sentence. What the US and everyone else would expect of the POTUS and supposedly leader of the free world is a clear statement of national sovereignty and a clear warning not to meddle in the election processes of your country. What they would not expect and even the Republicans could not stomach was crass capitulation. Why do youthink he had to get out early today and try to damp down teh flames with his ridiculous 'misspoke' defence? Everyone and his dog can see through that one. As to Mr Cohen I think you will find that he has a well deserved reputation for being a Putin/Kremlin apologist - as I stated and evidenced in my original post - that is why I referred you to his defence of Putin's agression in Crimea and Ukraine (damnit sometimes it gets tiresome having to explain everyything to you) . Your final jibe is so pathetic I will merely make the obvious comparison with a child who cannot argue a point so resorts to the 'Yer mom' tack.
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There is NOTHING in your original post which pertains in ANY way to London so we can remove that irrelevance for a start. I would have thought that the answer to your three questions was clearly stated in what I wrote but perhaps nuance is lost on you. To be blunt the answer to your three questions can be summed up in one sentence. What the US and everyone else would expect of the POTUS and supposedly leader of the free world is a clear statement of national sovereignty and a clear warning not to meddle in the election processes of your country. What they would not expect and even the Republicans could not stomach was crass capitulation. Why do youthink he had to get out early today and try to damp down teh flames with his ridiculous 'misspoke' defence? Everyone and his dog can see through that one. As to Mr Cohen I think you will find that he has a well deserved reputation for being a Putin/Kremlin apologist - as I stated and evidenced in my original post - that is why I referred you to his defence of Putin's agression in Crimea and Ukraine (damnit sometimes it gets tiresome having to explain everyything to you) . Your final jibe is so pathetic I will merely make the obvious comparison with a child who cannot argue a point so resorts to the 'Yer mom' tack. 
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