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bigblock46 73M
11498 posts
5/15/2019 5:30 am
A Trip Down Memory Lane


How about this as a mental exercise: Try to remember back to the year 2009. It was only a decade ago, but it feels like a totally different era -- and in many ways it was.

In 2009, most people didn't have smartphones. Late night television was still funny. The Democratic Party was still pretending to put the interests of American citizens above those of the rest of the world.

In September of 2009, President Obama gave a speech about health care to a joint session of Congress. You may remember it. One of Obama's most emphatic promises in that speech -- in fact, during that whole season -- was that foreigners living in our country illegally would never receive benefits under his plan. He said that repeatedly.

But not everyone believed him.

President Obama, Sept. 9, 2009: There are also those who claim that our reform efforts would ensure illegal immigrants. This too, is false. The reforms -- the reforms I'm proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally.

Rep. Joe Wilson, R-S.C.: You lie!

Obama: That's not true.

"You lie!" That man was Congressman Joe Wilson of South Carolina. For the crime of being rude to St. Obama, Wilson was instantly denounced by his fellow Republicans, "Totally disrespectful," huffed Sen. John McCain, who himself had spent decades yelling obscenities at people on Capitol Hill. Jimmy Carter called Wilson a racist.

And now it turns out that Joe Wilson was right. A decade later, the Democratic Party has abandoned any pretense that America exists to benefit Americans. They tell us our country is innately evil, that it was conceived in racism for the purpose of oppression, that we are a sinful nation. And to redeem ourselves, we must sacrifice for the world's poor, among many, many, many other things. This means paying the health care bills of foreign nationals who have no right to be here in the first place.

"Look, I think that anyone who is in a situation where they are in need of health care, regardless of whether they're documented or undocumented, we have an obligation you see that they are cared for," Joe Biden explained recently. "That's why I think we need more clinics around the country."

Whether they have documents or not. This isn't a fringe candidate. It's not Mike Gravel or some Green Party wacko. That's the former Vice President of the United States. He is now the first frontrunner for the Democratic nomination. Joe Biden is up by 25 points over the rest of the field. Two years from now, Biden could easily be president.

Chances are, his running mate would be Sen. Kamala Harris of California. And over the weekend, Harris made it official: She agrees with Joe Biden on this question. Illegal aliens deserve full government health care, she said in an interview.

Jake Tapper, CNN anchor: So you support giving universal health care - Medicare-for-All - to people who are in this country illegally?

Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif, presidential candidate: Let me just be very clear about this. I am opposed to any policy that would deny in our country any human being from access to public safety, public education or public health. Period.

"Let me be very clear about this." So you know, we are not taking her out of context. We've even got the hand gestures. She is telling us that we have an obligation to pay the medical bills of every illegal alien in this country. Period. As she said.

Now, how many people would that be, exactly? Well, we don't know. In fact, we have no idea. Thanks to lobbying from elected Democrats like Kamala Harris, nobody knows how many illegal aliens live in this country right now. It could be 12 million. It could be 40 million.

But one thing is for sure. Once the rest of the world knows that we're passing out free health care, it will soon be many, many more. How much will all of that cost this country? Who will pay for it? How many more doctors and nurses will we need to provide that health care? How many more hospitals and clinics will we have to build?

Joe Biden said we'd have to build some. How many? Well, no one is saying. No one is saying anything precisely about it. They haven't thought about the details -- and that's odd.

Our health care system is already overpriced and inadequate. In fact, that's the main reason Democrats won in the last election, because they promised to make it better. Now they're telling us the solution -- the way they're going to make it better -- is by giving unlimited free medical care to foreigners who break our laws. That's just lunacy. There's no other way to put it.

Of course, this is getting virtually no coverage. The media have no interest in talking about something that might embarrass their party. But unlike the phantom threat of Russia, this actually matters -- a lot.


From Tucker Carlson

bigblock46 73M
9232 posts
5/15/2019 5:32 am

Maybe someone should remind Mr Biden and Ms Harris of Mr Obama's words.


sparkleflit 71F
4796 posts
5/15/2019 9:29 am

What has Trump's Republican government done to improve Health Care?.....Why don't Republicans get off their fat asses and address Health Care....It's been a couple of years in power, but all they ever talk about is how badly the Democrats did it and might do it in the future ........


hiramhankwilliam 95M
4346 posts
5/15/2019 9:52 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    What has Trump's Republican government done to improve Health Care?.....Why don't Republicans get off their fat asses and address Health Care....It's been a couple of years in power, but all they ever talk about is how badly the Democrats did it and might do it in the future ........
WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH YOU OR YOUR SHYT HOLE COUNTRY. TERMITE

DEATH IS A CERTAIN, ETERNITY IS A CHOICE


bigblock46 73M
9232 posts
5/15/2019 10:53 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    What has Trump's Republican government done to improve Health Care?.....Why don't Republicans get off their fat asses and address Health Care....It's been a couple of years in power, but all they ever talk about is how badly the Democrats did it and might do it in the future ........
You are totally confused, its not about health care. Its about who pays the bill.


sparkleflit 71F
4796 posts
5/15/2019 11:14 am

    Quoting bigblock46:
    You are totally confused, its not about health care. Its about who pays the bill.
I think Tucker is confused as usual......he used the phrase "Health Care" eight times in an article that isn't about Health Care.......


sparkleflit 71F
4796 posts
5/15/2019 11:21 am

    Quoting hiramhankwilliam:
    WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH YOU OR YOUR SHYT HOLE COUNTRY. TERMITE
OOOHH.....look at Hanky.....he's mastered the typing of a word so BIG it has 6 letters....TERMITE.........his accomplishment of the decade......he's so proud of himself his brain got stuck on repeat.....


bigblock46 73M
9232 posts
5/15/2019 2:46 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    OOOHH.....look at Hanky.....he's mastered the typing of a word so BIG it has 6 letters....TERMITE.........his accomplishment of the decade......he's so proud of himself his brain got stuck on repeat.....
Look at Lulu sticking her nose and mouth into something that doesn't even have any effect on her life.


dusty117 69M
948 posts
5/15/2019 2:48 pm

A day rarely goes by that I don't hear Republicans crying that the Donald Trump can't get no respect. And along with the crying and moaning they eventually get to the question .. how did we get here?

Joe Wilson is without a doubt a benchmark in the journey of how we got here. Wilson dogwhistled to racists .. 'we don't have to treat Obama the same as the other Presidents.

By the way Block Obamacare is over .. it's Trumpcare now. If illegals are scamming you that's on Trump at least for 2 more years.


hiramhankwilliam 95M
4346 posts
5/15/2019 3:10 pm

    Quoting dusty117:
    A day rarely goes by that I don't hear Republicans crying that the Donald Trump can't get no respect. And along with the crying and moaning they eventually get to the question .. how did we get here?

    Joe Wilson is without a doubt a benchmark in the journey of how we got here. Wilson dogwhistled to racists .. 'we don't have to treat Obama the same as the other Presidents.

    By the way Block Obamacare is over .. it's Trumpcare now. If illegals are scamming you that's on Trump at least for 2 more years.
barry is not potus. trump is. you still whining like kankles.

termite

DEATH IS A CERTAIN, ETERNITY IS A CHOICE


hiramhankwilliam 95M
4346 posts
5/15/2019 3:14 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    OOOHH.....look at Hanky.....he's mastered the typing of a word so BIG it has 6 letters....TERMITE.........his accomplishment of the decade......he's so proud of himself his brain got stuck on repeat.....
lulu. some day. please detail why you obsess so much about the usa and its policies.

regarding my usage of termite. I could not post the word that best describes you and your fellow travelers. Trotsky would love u

DEATH IS A CERTAIN, ETERNITY IS A CHOICE


sparkleflit 71F
4796 posts
5/15/2019 4:40 pm

You advertise your own mental limitations by classifying an interest in World Politics as an obsession........We are not all so naive and ignorant that we can't perceive the influence of US politics and policies reaching beyond your political borders.......You obsess over a single word for weeks on end.....ENEMA....TERMITE........those are obsessions......a deep interest in the Human Race and all the life on this benighted planet that we call home is not a Psychological aberration......It's what Humans with a brain and a conscience do.........True caring is not limited by political boundaries and only a fool thinks that the actions in and of our neighbouring countries have no effect on us......History proves you wrong about that.......


sparkleflit 71F
4796 posts
5/15/2019 10:07 pm

As the most powerful military in the World threatens yet another war, old Republican men insist that it's none of my business and that the actions of their country's military don't affect me none.....Can anything be more glaringly ignorant?


dusty117 69M
948 posts
5/15/2019 11:01 pm

    Quoting bigblock46:
    Maybe someone should remind Mr Biden and Ms Harris of Mr Obama's words.
I've got some news for you and Tucker Carlson, and let me know if I'm stating the obvious but … Barack Obama, Kamala Harris and Joe Biden are not the same person ...


Katie_au_lait 73F
6581 posts
5/16/2019 4:27 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    You advertise your own mental limitations by classifying an interest in World Politics as an obsession........We are not all so naive and ignorant that we can't perceive the influence of US politics and policies reaching beyond your political borders.......You obsess over a single word for weeks on end.....ENEMA....TERMITE........those are obsessions......a deep interest in the Human Race and all the life on this benighted planet that we call home is not a Psychological aberration......It's what Humans with a brain and a conscience do.........True caring is not limited by political boundaries and only a fool thinks that the actions in and of our neighbouring countries have no effect on us......History proves you wrong about that.......
"As the most powerful military in the World threatens yet another war, old Republican men insist that it's none of my business and that the actions of their country's military don't affect me none.....Can anything be more glaringly ignorant?"

I (and billions of others!) agree with all you've said in these two comments which brought tears to my eyes. But I'm afraid you are wasting your time trying to make these "people" understand what humanity and life really are.
They are so poorly educated that they don't even realise they are the worst anti-Christians the world has ever heard of.



bigblock46 73M
9232 posts
5/16/2019 5:24 am

    Quoting Katie_au_lait:
    "As the most powerful military in the World threatens yet another war, old Republican men insist that it's none of my business and that the actions of their country's military don't affect me none.....Can anything be more glaringly ignorant?"

    I (and billions of others!) agree with all you've said in these two comments which brought tears to my eyes. But I'm afraid you are wasting your time trying to make these "people" understand what humanity and life really are.
    They are so poorly educated that they don't even realise they are the worst anti-Christians the world has ever heard of.



You show your institutional racism here.

You seem to think you are allowed to attack and laugh at Christianity, but not at other religions, especially Islam.

You should treat all religions, equally rather than singling out Christianity.


Katie_au_lait 73F
6581 posts
5/16/2019 8:21 am

    Quoting bigblock46:
    You show your institutional racism here.

    You seem to think you are allowed to attack and laugh at Christianity, but not at other religions, especially Islam.

    You should treat all religions, equally rather than singling out Christianity.
Don't try to put your narrow minded views on me, it's not my fault that you are so narrow minded and poorly educated!
I don't "single out" Christianity...only those who insist they are Christians, while they judge all others as evil. That is not Christian teaching, it's not any kind of religious teaching.
You are telling me that I should treat all religions the same...which is exactly what I do. I am not singling out "Christianity" as a whole...just you personally...and any other so-called "religious" person who spouts hypocrisy.

Not all Christians are hypocrites...not all Muslims are terrorists... and not all atheists are evil or anti-religion. If you do not agree with that, then you are a hypocrite. And every time you utter your crap you are insulting the Messiah you insist that you believe in and love.
Religion means less to me than people...human beings...do. That's the way I was brought up, to respect fellow human beings. I can't believe that after all the years of my saying all this, you still refuse to understand!

Have you got it now?


bigblock46 73M
9232 posts
5/16/2019 10:14 am

    Quoting Katie_au_lait:
    Don't try to put your narrow minded views on me, it's not my fault that you are so narrow minded and poorly educated!
    I don't "single out" Christianity...only those who insist they are Christians, while they judge all others as evil. That is not Christian teaching, it's not any kind of religious teaching.
    You are telling me that I should treat all religions the same...which is exactly what I do. I am not singling out "Christianity" as a whole...just you personally...and any other so-called "religious" person who spouts hypocrisy.

    Not all Christians are hypocrites...not all Muslims are terrorists... and not all atheists are evil or anti-religion. If you do not agree with that, then you are a hypocrite. And every time you utter your crap you are insulting the Messiah you insist that you believe in and love.
    Religion means less to me than people...human beings...do. That's the way I was brought up, to respect fellow human beings. I can't believe that after all the years of my saying all this, you still refuse to understand!

    Have you got it now?

Aw poor little girl got her feelings hurt. "it's not my fault that you are so narrow minded and poorly educated!" You just showed your bigotry again, as you don't know me or doggone thing about me.


dusty117 69M
948 posts
5/16/2019 3:15 pm

Sure lets take a trip down memory lane ..

Some 40 to 50 years ago and beyond, we not only had free Community College in California we had free clinics. You could walk in a free clinic and get treatment for your medical need .. free of charge.

So Block the question is .. which party is working to make America great AGAIN ... and which party just talks about it?


bigblock46 73M
9232 posts
5/17/2019 8:31 am

    Quoting dusty117:
    Sure lets take a trip down memory lane ..

    Some 40 to 50 years ago and beyond, we not only had free Community College in California we had free clinics. You could walk in a free clinic and get treatment for your medical need .. free of charge.

    So Block the question is .. which party is working to make America great AGAIN ... and which party just talks about it?
Seeing how we have had this discussion before, I will say it one more time there is no such thing as a free lunch. Did your parents pay state taxes? Now then your Free college cost them! You still had to exist as eating and having a roof over your head, Somebody had to pay for that. Free Medical care. Do you honestly think for a second that those Doctors worked for free? Somebody somewhere had to pay something.


dusty117 69M
948 posts
5/18/2019 12:31 pm

    Quoting bigblock46:
    Seeing how we have had this discussion before, I will say it one more time there is no such thing as a free lunch. Did your parents pay state taxes? Now then your Free college cost them! You still had to exist as eating and having a roof over your head, Somebody had to pay for that. Free Medical care. Do you honestly think for a second that those Doctors worked for free? Somebody somewhere had to pay something.
Can you name a politician who is calling for legislation regarding free room and board for college students? I didn't think so … so what the hell are you talking about?

And yes of course free community college and free clinics were paid for by taxpayers! And I PAID STATE TAXES starting at age 16 with my first job and my first car.

Stop avoiding the subject of your own blog dude .. doctors don't work for free and everybody knows it.


bigblock46 73M
9232 posts
5/18/2019 1:02 pm

    Quoting dusty117:
    Can you name a politician who is calling for legislation regarding free room and board for college students? I didn't think so … so what the hell are you talking about?

    And yes of course free community college and free clinics were paid for by taxpayers! And I PAID STATE TAXES starting at age 16 with my first job and my first car.

    Stop avoiding the subject of your own blog dude .. doctors don't work for free and everybody knows it.
You just admitted you paid for your own "free" college.

Your wordsquot;You could walk in a free clinic and get treatment for your medical need .. free of charge." Now you are trying to walk back your comment. ". doctors don't work for free and everybody knows it."

All you have done is verify my words.


dusty117 69M
948 posts
5/18/2019 3:33 pm

Block you're loosing it man .. you're chasing your tail .. you're like a top that doesn't know which way to spin.

Everybody pays taxes. If you're in the country illegally you pay taxes. That's not what your blog is about. It's about what legislatures do with the money.


bigblock46 73M
9232 posts
5/18/2019 6:28 pm

    Quoting dusty117:
    Block you're loosing it man .. you're chasing your tail .. you're like a top that doesn't know which way to spin.

    Everybody pays taxes. If you're in the country illegally you pay taxes. That's not what your blog is about. It's about what legislatures do with the money.
I am not the one who is chasing his tail. You are the one who brought up "free" all I did was show you the error of your ways.