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sparkleflit 71F
2108 posts
11/2/2018 7:48 pm
OOGA BOOGA .......



sparkleflit 71F
3469 posts
11/2/2018 7:49 pm

ooga booga boo.....


MrsJoe 71F
9383 posts
11/2/2018 8:34 pm

Actually, I am not afraid at all.......... but we must be aware of what is going on, and cautious about things, and protect the borders of our country.
Do you get involved in political discussions in your country? Does Canada not have any major problems to deal with? Is illegal immigration not a problem there? How would you all handle it ?


Life's short. Be sure you spend your time on the internet, arguing with strangers over politics.


starwomyn 65F
5903 posts
11/2/2018 8:59 pm

Illegal Immigration has been a problem in the United States for years. I have seen president after president grant amnesty. This is not fair for the immigrants who wait, jump through hoops and get here legally. Trump is the first President to put his foot down and say "No!" Bravo!!!!

condemnant quod non intellegunt


bigblock46 72M
8003 posts
11/3/2018 4:37 am

How about the United States provide transportation for the caravan to Canada, Abbotsford, British Columbia sounds like a wonderful place to relocate them.


bijou649 69F
70 posts
11/3/2018 6:40 am

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Trump should at least have the decency to remove the poem on the Statue of Liberty because under him the poem no longer applies to U.S. Immigration policy.


earthytaurus3 78F
38330 posts
11/3/2018 6:59 am

    Quoting bijou649:
    "Give me your tired, your poor,
    Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
    The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
    Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

    Trump should at least have the decency to remove the poem on the Statue of Liberty because under him the poem no longer applies to U.S. Immigration policy.

…… unless you're his in-laws.


bigblock46 72M
8003 posts
11/3/2018 8:33 am

    Quoting bijou649:
    "Give me your tired, your poor,
    Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
    The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
    Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

    Trump should at least have the decency to remove the poem on the Statue of Liberty because under him the poem no longer applies to U.S. Immigration policy.

You could actually check your history before you speak.

The poem that you’re referring to was added later. It’s not actually part of the original Statue of Liberty. The poem was engraved onto a plaque placed on the pedestal in 1903 — nearly two decades after the statue was unveiled — and that the monument wasn’t always associated with immigration.

Originally, the meaning of the monument had more to do with the abolition of slavery than with immigration. In the 1860s, French anti-slavery activist Edouard de Laboulaye had first proposed that France should make a gift of the statue, dubbed “Liberty Enlightening the World” and designed by sculptor Frédéric Auguste Bartholdi, both to commemorate the alliance between the U.S. and France during the American Revolution and the end of slavery in the U.S. after the Civil War, according to the National Park Service.


MrsJoe 71F
9383 posts
11/3/2018 8:37 am

    Quoting bijou649:
    "Give me your tired, your poor,
    Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
    The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
    Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

    Trump should at least have the decency to remove the poem on the Statue of Liberty because under him the poem no longer applies to U.S. Immigration policy.

It still applies to the more than a million LEGAL immigrants who come to the USA every year.

Life's short. Be sure you spend your time on the internet, arguing with strangers over politics.


sparkleflit 71F
3469 posts
11/3/2018 8:39 am

    Quoting MrsJoe:
    Actually, I am not afraid at all.......... but we must be aware of what is going on, and cautious about things, and protect the borders of our country.
    Do you get involved in political discussions in your country? Does Canada not have any major problems to deal with? Is illegal immigration not a problem there? How would you all handle it ?
This morning I mailed in my ballot with my vote in a referendum on representation. I voted in favour of Proportional Representation.that roughly matches the popular vote. I've been working on this for a long time, educating people , making sure they are ready to vote and encouraging them to vote.

Yes we are experiencing a lot of refugees coming across our Southern border from the US and it is a large problem.........

Instilling fear the way Trump is doing in order to secure votes is exacerbating the situation in a way that is not helpful to anyone. Calling the refugees wending their way North as a "Caravan", saying that there are criminals, MS13 and other gang members, that there are Middle Eastern ISIS members hiding among them, saying he will send up yo 15,000 military troops.......that throwing rocks will be considered the same as firing bullets and will be met with return fire. .........

It's a group of refugees travelling together for safety....they're walking.....they are a thousand miles away, who knows how many there will be when they reach the US............

Trump is lying and pumping up the fear at his rallies......You may not be afraid, but there are a lot of people who are.


sparkleflit 71F
3469 posts
11/3/2018 8:42 am

    Quoting starwomyn:
    Illegal Immigration has been a problem in the United States for years. I have seen president after president grant amnesty. This is not fair for the immigrants who wait, jump through hoops and get here legally. Trump is the first President to put his foot down and say "No!" Bravo!!!!
Bullshit.......other presidents have been dealing with it all along....This meme is about Trump lying and Trumping up fear at his rallies, not about him "putting his foot down".........


sparkleflit 71F
3469 posts
11/3/2018 8:53 am

    Quoting bigblock46:
    How about the United States provide transportation for the caravan to Canada, Abbotsford, British Columbia sounds like a wonderful place to relocate them.
?You know nothing about Abbotsford, except that mu SFF profile says I live there, which I don't.....but Abbotsford has an extremely diverse population, with many South and Middle Eastern people.....

Like those who commented before, you are already so far up Trump's ass that you are incapable of understanding this meme.......that you consider your dear-leader's ranting, raving and constant, outright lies in order to drum up fear as normal......I see you posting extreme Right-Wing propoganda every day, so your acceptance of Trump's lies is not a surprise at all.


sparkleflit 71F
3469 posts
11/3/2018 9:01 am

    Quoting bigblock46:
    You could actually check your history before you speak.

    The poem that you’re referring to was added later. It’s not actually part of the original Statue of Liberty. The poem was engraved onto a plaque placed on the pedestal in 1903 — nearly two decades after the statue was unveiled — and that the monument wasn’t always associated with immigration.

    Originally, the meaning of the monument had more to do with the abolition of slavery than with immigration. In the 1860s, French anti-slavery activist Edouard de Laboulaye had first proposed that France should make a gift of the statue, dubbed “Liberty Enlightening the World” and designed by sculptor Frédéric Auguste Bartholdi, both to commemorate the alliance between the U.S. and France during the American Revolution and the end of slavery in the U.S. after the Civil War, according to the National Park Service.
I have been watching you for months now, willing, eager to twist words and meanings in order to accommodate your lying leader........an interesting study......like the 14th amendment of the constitution.......You, who I have watched for years claiming to be a constitutional originalist .......remember when you hung tea-bags on your hat?......But if Trump wants to change something in the constitution, you turn around and grab your ankles without a murmur.......what a good boy......Now lets talk about 2nd amendment.....


starwomyn 65F
5903 posts
11/3/2018 11:06 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    Bullshit.......other presidents have been dealing with it all along....This meme is about Trump lying and Trumping up fear at his rallies, not about him "putting his foot down".........
Actually Trump is putting his foot down and saying STOP!!!! The group from the Caravan had bullied thier way into Mexico, throwing rocks and injuring the Mexican Police. They are not going to get away with doing that to the United States. They don't get to browbeat thier way into the United States illegally and demand that we take care of them. I am positive that our military can deal with the rock throwers without shooting them

condemnant quod non intellegunt


bigblock46 72M
8003 posts
11/3/2018 11:37 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    ?You know nothing about Abbotsford, except that mu SFF profile says I live there, which I don't.....but Abbotsford has an extremely diverse population, with many South and Middle Eastern people.....

    Like those who commented before, you are already so far up Trump's ass that you are incapable of understanding this meme.......that you consider your dear-leader's ranting, raving and constant, outright lies in order to drum up fear as normal......I see you posting extreme Right-Wing propoganda every day, so your acceptance of Trump's lies is not a surprise at all.


I have to think that SFF said that is where you live because that is what you told them. Now you have the audacity to proclaim Donald Trump a liar while it appears you are engaging in the same act you so pompously accuse him of.


bigblock46 72M
8003 posts
11/3/2018 11:43 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    I have been watching you for months now, willing, eager to twist words and meanings in order to accommodate your lying leader........an interesting study......like the 14th amendment of the constitution.......You, who I have watched for years claiming to be a constitutional originalist .......remember when you hung tea-bags on your hat?......But if Trump wants to change something in the constitution, you turn around and grab your ankles without a murmur.......what a good boy......Now lets talk about 2nd amendment.....
Again when you can't debate what is written on its merits you resort to attacks. You say nothing to dispute what I wrote about the The New Colossus but rather attacked me. Oh and by the way you also attacked Star and with vulgarity, I notice.


sparkleflit 71F
3469 posts
11/3/2018 12:21 pm

    Quoting bigblock46:
    I have to think that SFF said that is where you live because that is what you told them. Now you have the audacity to proclaim Donald Trump a liar while it appears you are engaging in the same act you so pompously accuse him of.
I live in a low density population area......this site uses an algorithm that uses population concentrations.....Apparently their software identifies Abbotsford, which is actually a suburb of Vancouver as my home.......I live on a small island between The East Coast of Vancouver Island, and the B.C. mainland. As the crow flies, Abbotsford is probably the closest city with a population concentration above what the SFF algorithms indicate. However, for me to get there requires about 6 hours of travel by road and 2 different ferries costing over a hundred dollars. The alternative is to take a ferry to Vancouver Island and drive to the closest airport and fly to Abbotsford. I have explained this several times on this site......

As to Trump's lies......He lies constantly......Blatantly and shamelessly.....Most of his lies are easily fact checked and many that are being fact-checked constantly by people across the globe. It's concerning to the whole World that a megalomaniac who shamelessly tells huge whoppers constantly .is being supported with unquestioning reverence by so many Americans.......How did you get yourself into this state of worshipping a monster?.....


bijou649 69F
70 posts
11/3/2018 12:45 pm

Not that I feel it's necessary but I just wanted certain people to know that I do understand the poem and the statue, but I just said that Trump should remove the poem as it doesn't apply to U.S. Immigration any more. If the poem was removed from the statue maybe poor people from other countries wouldn't bother trying to get to the U.S. U.S. Immigration has NO CATEGORY for people to move to the U.S. just because they are poor and are looking for a better life. They either have to apply as political refugees, entrepreneurs, marry an American, or have some special job skills that are needed in the U.S.


sparkleflit 71F
3469 posts
11/3/2018 2:51 pm

    Quoting bigblock46:
    I have to think that SFF said that is where you live because that is what you told them. Now you have the audacity to proclaim Donald Trump a liar while it appears you are engaging in the same act you so pompously accuse him of.
The audacity to call Trump a liar? LOL........What takes audacity is to deny that Trump is a liar.......well, perhaps not audacity as much as pig-headed denial. We watch live-streaming video of Trump lying his face off over and over.....then a few days later we see video of him insisting that he didn't say what the whole World saw and heard him say......You have to be very far up Trump's backside to deny that he is a liar.....


sparkleflit 71F
3469 posts
11/3/2018 3:05 pm

    Quoting bijou649:
    "Give me your tired, your poor,
    Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
    The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
    Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

    Trump should at least have the decency to remove the poem on the Statue of Liberty because under him the poem no longer applies to U.S. Immigration policy.

In the 50s, my parents were casting around looking for a new country to live in. They were educated, had job skills, plenty of money to set themselves up in the "new world" They received brochures from many countries......The brochure from the US had a photo of the Statue of Liberty and that poem.........They were horrified, were completely turned off by the attitude.....they were not homeless, wretched refuse. They were already free and were just looking for adventure, different scenery and a challenge.........They rejected the US based on the inherent insults of that poem..........Trump says he wants merit-based immigration.......

That poem addresses refugees, not merit-based immigration.


bigblock46 72M
8003 posts
11/3/2018 3:05 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    I live in a low density population area......this site uses an algorithm that uses population concentrations.....Apparently their software identifies Abbotsford, which is actually a suburb of Vancouver as my home.......I live on a small island between The East Coast of Vancouver Island, and the B.C. mainland. As the crow flies, Abbotsford is probably the closest city with a population concentration above what the SFF algorithms indicate. However, for me to get there requires about 6 hours of travel by road and 2 different ferries costing over a hundred dollars. The alternative is to take a ferry to Vancouver Island and drive to the closest airport and fly to Abbotsford. I have explained this several times on this site......

    As to Trump's lies......He lies constantly......Blatantly and shamelessly.....Most of his lies are easily fact checked and many that are being fact-checked constantly by people across the globe. It's concerning to the whole World that a megalomaniac who shamelessly tells huge whoppers constantly .is being supported with unquestioning reverence by so many Americans.......How did you get yourself into this state of worshipping a monster?.....
You still installed the information, remember Garbage In Garbage Out.

As for Mr Trump. That's always been the left's response to politicians they don't agree with: Harass, attack, belittle, demean, threaten, scream … and repeat. Unlike Republicans, however, the left never gets called on its hate-mongering.

Sure, Trump's barbed rhetoric and insults fan the flames of today's incivility. And like most people, we'd prefer that he adopt a more presidential tone.

But even if Trump had the temperament of Mister Rogers, Trump derangement syndrome would be just as virulent and widespread as it is today.

Not because of anything Trump has said or tweeted. But because he's successfully enacting a conservative agenda that the left doesn't like, and will do anything to stop. Anything, that is, except engage in a calm, reasonable debate.


bigblock46 72M
8003 posts
11/3/2018 3:09 pm

    Quoting bijou649:
    Not that I feel it's necessary but I just wanted certain people to know that I do understand the poem and the statue, but I just said that Trump should remove the poem as it doesn't apply to U.S. Immigration any more. If the poem was removed from the statue maybe poor people from other countries wouldn't bother trying to get to the U.S. U.S. Immigration has NO CATEGORY for people to move to the U.S. just because they are poor and are looking for a better life. They either have to apply as political refugees, entrepreneurs, marry an American, or have some special job skills that are needed in the U.S.
Its called LEGAL ENTRY into the country. I thought you worked for an attorney, did he not explain the word illegal.


YA_YA 80F
1785 posts
11/3/2018 3:17 pm

Don't you people see by now that you CANNOT reason with the liberal mind..........they are blind as bat's........IF it were at all possible there would be no more of 'em!

"We are in a battle for the soul of America......."


sparkleflit 71F
3469 posts
11/3/2018 6:02 pm

    Quoting bigblock46:
    You still installed the information, remember Garbage In Garbage Out.

    As for Mr Trump. That's always been the left's response to politicians they don't agree with: Harass, attack, belittle, demean, threaten, scream … and repeat. Unlike Republicans, however, the left never gets called on its hate-mongering.

    Sure, Trump's barbed rhetoric and insults fan the flames of today's incivility. And like most people, we'd prefer that he adopt a more presidential tone.

    But even if Trump had the temperament of Mister Rogers, Trump derangement syndrome would be just as virulent and widespread as it is today.

    Not because of anything Trump has said or tweeted. But because he's successfully enacting a conservative agenda that the left doesn't like, and will do anything to stop. Anything, that is, except engage in a calm, reasonable debate.
I did not "install the information" I entered my actual location in my SFF profile application and they spat out "Abbotsford"......My Facebook profile gives a different Vancouver suburb as my location......We just accept these glitches as a given.....they are what they are, but you, not having a clue about algorithms, choose to accuse me of lying, yet still refuse to acknowledge that your president is a habitual and chronic liar..........In fact you won't even admit to any of his lies.


sparkleflit 71F
3469 posts
11/3/2018 6:04 pm

    Quoting YA_YA:
    Don't you people see by now that you CANNOT reason with the liberal mind..........they are blind as bat's........IF it were at all possible there would be no more of 'em!
Hypocrisy, thy name is YaYa.


Katie_au_lait 72F
6315 posts
11/4/2018 12:28 am

"Not because of anything Trump has said or tweeted. But because he's successfully enacting a conservative agenda that the left doesn't like, and will do anything to stop. Anything, that is, except engage in a calm, reasonable debate."


Are you saying it's reasonable to imprison children and babies? That it's good conservative agenda?
Are you saying that it's reasonable to believe that every white American should be armed?
Or for so-called "religious people" to call for the death penalty for women who have abortions.
For punishment of LBGTQ people?
Or that it's "reasonable" to call Nazis "good people"...even after your country, and the rest of the world fought a war against them, A WAR IN WHICH ALMOST 80 MILLION PEOPLE DIED? And now, your new messiah call's them "good people" Where's your conscience?

If you think all of that is "good conservative Christian morals" You left your "religious belief" behind a long time ago.

That may be conservatism...it is definitely NOT Christianity.


bijou649 69F
70 posts
11/4/2018 1:55 am

    Quoting bigblock46:
    Its called LEGAL ENTRY into the country. I thought you worked for an attorney, did he not explain the word illegal.
You're right, there is no category for poor people to apply any more, so they should remove the poem as it is false advertising.


bigblock46 72M
8003 posts
11/4/2018 4:53 am

Just something for Lulu and Bijou.

You can not take mouthwash on a airplane, yet you expect us to let 8000 foreigners into our country with no questions asked.


YA_YA 80F
1785 posts
11/4/2018 6:26 am

"Sometimes it's better to just let things be, let people go, don't fight for closure, don't ask for explanations, don't chase answers and don't expect people to understand where you're coming from........."-----YAYA the Hypocrit ))

"We are in a battle for the soul of America......."


bijou649 69F
70 posts
11/4/2018 6:51 am

    Quoting bigblock46:
    Just something for Lulu and Bijou.

    You can not take mouthwash on a airplane, yet you expect us to let 8000 foreigners into our country with no questions asked.
Where on earth did anyone say that the U.S. should allow anyone into the country and no questions asked?????? For the third time, all I said was that since there is no category for poor people to even apply for landed status in the U.S., then maybe the poem should be removed from the Statue of Liberty.


bigblock46 72M
8003 posts
11/4/2018 7:06 am

    Quoting bijou649:
    Where on earth did anyone say that the U.S. should allow anyone into the country and no questions asked?????? For the third time, all I said was that since there is no category for poor people to even apply for landed status in the U.S., then maybe the poem should be removed from the Statue of Liberty.
Landed immigrant refers to an individual who has relocated and changed his/her permanent residence to a state where s/he does not have citizenship but has limited rights associated with residency. It can also refer to people who have been granted the right to live permanently in a state other than where they originally hold citizenship, by their new host state's immigration authorities.

The term landed immigrant is used interchangeably with permanent resident. Landed immigrant status is typically a condition precedent of an immigrant's application for citizenship.

As for your " maybe the poem should be removed from the Statue of Liberty."

There was no maybe in your other quotes:Trump should at least have the decency to remove the poem on the Statue of Liberty because under him the poem no longer applies to U.S. Immigration policy.

there is no category for poor people to apply any more, so they should remove the poem as it is false advertising.


bijou649 69F
70 posts
11/4/2018 12:45 pm

    Quoting bigblock46:
    Landed immigrant refers to an individual who has relocated and changed his/her permanent residence to a state where s/he does not have citizenship but has limited rights associated with residency. It can also refer to people who have been granted the right to live permanently in a state other than where they originally hold citizenship, by their new host state's immigration authorities.

    The term landed immigrant is used interchangeably with permanent resident. Landed immigrant status is typically a condition precedent of an immigrant's application for citizenship.

    As for your " maybe the poem should be removed from the Statue of Liberty."

    There was no maybe in your other quotes:Trump should at least have the decency to remove the poem on the Statue of Liberty because under him the poem no longer applies to U.S. Immigration policy.

    there is no category for poor people to apply any more, so they should remove the poem as it is false advertising.
I have no idea what you're talking about. The words of the poem do not apply anymore, and Trump hates poor immigrants, so why not just remove the poem. For all we know, maybe poor people in other countries get a copy of the poem and think they will be welcome in the U.S.

I know what permanent residence in the U.S. is because I am one. I was married to an American and lived in New York.


sparkleflit 71F
3469 posts
11/4/2018 8:45 pm

    Quoting bijou649:
    I have no idea what you're talking about. The words of the poem do not apply anymore, and Trump hates poor immigrants, so why not just remove the poem. For all we know, maybe poor people in other countries get a copy of the poem and think they will be welcome in the U.S.

    I know what permanent residence in the U.S. is because I am one. I was married to an American and lived in New York.
Trying to get a point across to Bigblock is like trying to nail jello to a wall.......


Daylilyin9O5 76F
101 posts
11/5/2018 8:03 am

    Quoting bijou649:
    You're right, there is no category for poor people to apply any more, so they should remove the poem as it is false advertising.
I saw a general type of election ad for the liberals. Same lies and then I was shocked to see a picture of the Statue of Liberty close out the ad. I haven't seen it since.


middleprong1 63M
558 posts
11/5/2018 2:26 pm

Frankenstein was a "monster". Wolfman too, and they had their soft spots and empathetic moments. Trump does not. He's rather worse than a monster.


CarolinaPanthera 57F
1887 posts
11/6/2018 1:49 pm

    Quoting YA_YA:
    "Sometimes it's better to just let things be, let people go, don't fight for closure, don't ask for explanations, don't chase answers and don't expect people to understand where you're coming from........."-----YAYA the Hypocrit ))
It's about time. Admitting it is the first step to recovery.


CarolinaPanthera 57F
1887 posts
11/6/2018 1:56 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    ?You know nothing about Abbotsford, except that mu SFF profile says I live there, which I don't.....but Abbotsford has an extremely diverse population, with many South and Middle Eastern people.....

    Like those who commented before, you are already so far up Trump's ass that you are incapable of understanding this meme.......that you consider your dear-leader's ranting, raving and constant, outright lies in order to drum up fear as normal......I see you posting extreme Right-Wing propoganda every day, so your acceptance of Trump's lies is not a surprise at all.


Bless his heart. He's resorting to his Lord and Savior Donald J-for genius Trump's method to try and scare you with the threat of an "invasion."

Oooga Booga!