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sparkleflit 71F
2496 posts
1/4/2019 7:17 pm
HILLARY WARREN ELIZABETH CLINTON




JANUARY 2, 2019
I DON’T HATE WOMEN CANDIDATES — I JUST HATED HILLARY AND COINCIDENTALLY I’M STARTING TO HATE ELIZABETH WARREN
by DEVORAH BLACHOR

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I have no problem with women. My wife is a woman and I have daughters who will likely be wives and mothers of daughters one day. I only had a problem with Hillary Clinton, and my problem with her is completely separated from her gender, and is solely based on the fact that she was so dishonest when compared to other prominent politicians who ran for president. How could anyone vote for such a liar?


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My hatred for Hillary wasn’t diabolical. I never bought into the whole pizzagate thing, or the whole Uranium One thing, or the whole spirit-cooking-she-drinks-blood-infused-Podesta-rice thing, and I never once believed she was the devil. I would see those posts and just be like, Huh, if people believe that stuff about her, she must be really terrible.

And I never chanted LOCK HER UP or created memes showing her in prison, but I did laugh a little at those memes, because the thought of this accomplished woman behind bars with all her agency stripped away from her was funny to me.

So I’m a perfectly reasonable, women-friendly fellow who is completely open to the idea of a woman president. And I never thought I’d hate anyone as much as I hate Hillary Clinton. But to my surprise, I’m actually starting to hate Elizabeth Warren.

Don’t get me wrong. I’ve heard that Elizabeth Warren is a champion of consumers and the middle class who battled the big banks and advocates for economic reform. Nonetheless, she rubs me the wrong way.


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I hate the way she dealt with Donald Trump’s incessant attacks against her, for example. Why did Elizabeth Warren have to take that DNA test? Why couldn’t she have handled his abuse the exact right way? If I were being libeled by the President at his toxic mob rallies of hate, by golly, I would know just how to turn that into a moment of pure perfection.

And you know the DNA test is a huge deal, because Breitbart published five different stories about it over the course of 24 hours. Though I have never once in my life given a thought about the welfare of Native Americans, I am totally offended on their behalf. The fact they have criticized Elizabeth Warren just bolsters my claim that she’s the worst person ever, besides Hillary Clinton, and thus endeth my Native American advocacy until the day I die.

Another thing about Elizabeth Warren: She claims she advocates for the poor, yet she isn’t a poor herself. She lives in a fancy house with her fancy Harvard salary. I’m no fan of Trump, but that Elizabeth Warren is such a phony. That’s a thought, and thoughts are true, and I will never examine how that thought got into my head.

I mean, think about it for a moment. If Elizabeth Warren were so great, why would Robert Mercer be funding a super PAC whose sole purpose was to portray her as an out-of touch hypocrite? If she were a truly good leader, why would so many people like me dislike her?


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I always tell my daughters they can be anything they want, so long as they don’t make other people feel uncomfortable. They can be as ambitious as they want, so long as they do it in an acceptable manner. They can reach for the stars, which you can see right up there on the ceiling painted to resemble a sky.

So bring it on, ladies! I’d love to see a female President. Just not Hillary Clinton. Or Elizabeth Warren. I am totally open to all other women leaders, but I have to admit that Kamala Harris and Amy Klobuchar are beginning to make me angry and I’m not sure why yet, but I know the reason will become clear soon, and I’m also wondering what they might look like if someone photoshopped their heads onto the bodies of prisoners and put them behind bars.

Reach for the stars, girls!


sparkleflit 71F
4416 posts
1/4/2019 7:27 pm

And then there are the Republicans losing their minds over a video of AOC joyfully dancing while in college.....


CarolinaPanthera 57F
2775 posts
1/4/2019 8:30 pm

Ahhhhhhhhhh those Republicans who gasp, and clutch their pearls at the very thought of a young college girl dancing on a rooftop. The horror! I read that the song she was dancing to was 'Lisztomania.'

Ol' Liz is probably clutching his pearls, with the back of his hand placed dramatically over his forehead, gasping for air.


Lisztomania 69M
10429 posts
1/4/2019 11:32 pm

    Quoting CarolinaPanthera:
    Ahhhhhhhhhh those Republicans who gasp, and clutch their pearls at the very thought of a young college girl dancing on a rooftop. The horror! I read that the song she was dancing to was 'Lisztomania.'

    Ol' Liz is probably clutching his pearls, with the back of his hand placed dramatically over his forehead, gasping for air.
Do you ever have me wrong.


LeafReport 68M
1547 posts
1/5/2019 2:15 am

    Quoting CarolinaPanthera:
    Ahhhhhhhhhh those Republicans who gasp, and clutch their pearls at the very thought of a young college girl dancing on a rooftop. The horror! I read that the song she was dancing to was 'Lisztomania.'

    Ol' Liz is probably clutching his pearls, with the back of his hand placed dramatically over his forehead, gasping for air.
...you mean burping for air?


LeafReport 68M
1547 posts
1/5/2019 2:16 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    And then there are the Republicans losing their minds over a video of AOC joyfully dancing while in college.....
It's sexual harassment. Do they think people are stupid?


earthytaurus3 79F
39388 posts
1/5/2019 4:17 am

Warren is not a threat. I don't believe she stands a ghost of a chance of ever receiving the nomination. Sadly, she has allowed her personal war with her antagonist to ring too loudly and to over ride any legitimate cause she hopes to nurture.. At this point, I'm not even sure of what that cause is. She has prompted too much peripheral noise. Strike Elizabeth as a viable candidate.


jiminycricket1 69M
10569 posts
1/5/2019 4:22 am

Okay.... I finally understand mansplaining.....
I'm not sure I have ever read anything..... I can't think of a word.. so ...mansplaining is all I can up with

Ironical, hypocritical, conflicting, unintended sarcasm, revealing, untruthful, and STUPID... A comedy and a tragedy...
One would actually have to think about it .....to understand the truth of it

but let's begin at the beginning..

"I DON’T HATE WOMEN CANDIDATES — I JUST HATED HILLARY AND COINCIDENTALLY I’M STARTING TO HATE ELIZABETH WARREN.."

And to prove it all...That he doesn't hate women......

"I have no problem with women. My wife is a woman.

It's too bad it wasn't intended to be funny......"I have no problem with women. My wife is a woman". I keep thinking it's a punchline of a joke.....because if it wasn't so sad.. it would be hilarious.


jiminycricket1 69M
10569 posts
1/5/2019 5:27 am

I have no problem with women. My wife is a woman".

Okay I can't help myself... joke punchlines...

A man is confronted by his pastor....when it is discovered he having sex with another man....And the pastor ask him if has a problem with women....He answers.
"I have no problem with women. My wife is a woman"

A man is arrested for sexually assaulting a woman...The judge ask him if has a problem with women...He answers
"I have no problem with women. My wife is a woman"

Roy Moore when asked about his religion and being a sexual predator.. He answers..."I have no problem with women. My wife is a woman"

Bill Clinton..when it was discovered there were strange "things".. happening under the desk in the White House...says. Show me where it says I can only have oral sex with my wife in the White House...If she won't do it...what's wrong with going under my desk.. and signing an executive order.... I believe in equal rights for women to suck my dick...What.. do you think my dick knows the difference? Well, that may not be all true...As President I did vow to hire the women who would be best at the "job".....But that wasn't part of my marriage vows..
Of course......"I have no problem with women. My wife is a woman"

Donald Trump when accused of being misogynist.. disrespectful of women.. and thinking he has the right to grab p*ssy's..He answers.....
"I have no problem with women. My wife is a woman" and she likes it
When asked if he blackmails the women to say that... He kept repeating.
THERE WAS NO COLLUSION!
"I have no problem with women. My wife is a woman" ...
My ex-wife is a woman and my other ex-wife is a women..
THERE WAS NO COLLUSION!


bijou649 69F
448 posts
1/5/2019 6:45 am

I think Warren might make a good president, and I thought the same about Hillary. Neither would take any b.s. from male politicians and I liked their policies. But still I don't think either of them were likeable or that people wanted to look at them for the next four to eight years. Warren should tone down the anger, as Hillary should have toned down the open mouthed laugh and grinning all the time. Both of them look so out of touch and frowsy, their hair, their clothes. Unfortunately looks matter in this world.


sparkleflit 71F
4416 posts
1/5/2019 7:19 am

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    I have no problem with women. My wife is a woman".

    Okay I can't help myself... joke punchlines...

    A man is confronted by his pastor....when it is discovered he having sex with another man....And the pastor ask him if has a problem with women....He answers.
    "I have no problem with women. My wife is a woman"

    A man is arrested for sexually assaulting a woman...The judge ask him if has a problem with women...He answers
    "I have no problem with women. My wife is a woman"

    Roy Moore when asked about his religion and being a sexual predator.. He answers..."I have no problem with women. My wife is a woman"

    Bill Clinton..when it was discovered there were strange "things".. happening under the desk in the White House...says. Show me where it says I can only have oral sex with my wife in the White House...If she won't do it...what's wrong with going under my desk.. and signing an executive order.... I believe in equal rights for women to suck my dick...What.. do you think my dick knows the difference? Well, that may not be all true...As President I did vow to hire the women who would be best at the "job".....But that wasn't part of my marriage vows..
    Of course......"I have no problem with women. My wife is a woman"

    Donald Trump when accused of being misogynist.. disrespectful of women.. and thinking he has the right to grab p*ssy's..He answers.....
    "I have no problem with women. My wife is a woman" and she likes it
    When asked if he blackmails the women to say that... He kept repeating.
    THERE WAS NO COLLUSION!
    "I have no problem with women. My wife is a woman" ...
    My ex-wife is a woman and my other ex-wife is a women..
    THERE WAS NO COLLUSION!

This is a satire......written by a woman.....a feminist......"I have no problem with women.My wife is a woman" is meant ironically....An obvious sarcasm......Have you ever met a man named "Devorah"?.....


Lisztomania 69M
10429 posts
1/5/2019 7:45 am

Do you think that any of your readers are aware that Devorah Blochar is woman and a feminist?


jiminycricket1 69M
10569 posts
1/5/2019 7:47 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:

    This is a satire......written by a woman.....a feminist......"I have no problem with women.My wife is a woman" is meant ironically....An obvious sarcasm......Have you ever met a man named "Devorah"?.....
I never met anybody named Devorah......!

So maybe you have.to be smart to figure it out...which of course you can't accuse very many people here of that here..Especially me...and of course All men...
speaking of "Allmen".. we are "Brothers" you know... all living "in the memory of Elizabeth Reed" .. But maybe... it's just my drug induced coma.....You know...."They are putting people in comas" ,,,,,,,,,people,,,,,,,,,... Oh shit .. I'm having "flashbacks"..thinking I'm doing a "flashdance" with Jennifer Beal.. That's too bad.. because I was having fun with it..

So okay.......Let's just say I was mansplaining.. not to women.. but mansplaining, the mansplaining to men..


CarolinaPanthera 57F
2775 posts
1/5/2019 7:52 am

    Quoting earthytaurus3:
    Warren is not a threat. I don't believe she stands a ghost of a chance of ever receiving the nomination. Sadly, she has allowed her personal war with her antagonist to ring too loudly and to over ride any legitimate cause she hopes to nurture.. At this point, I'm not even sure of what that cause is. She has prompted too much peripheral noise. Strike Elizabeth as a viable candidate.
I agree with you about Warren. I don't know how much of her I can stomach through debates and such. I hope she changes her mind about running.


jiminycricket1 69M
10569 posts
1/5/2019 7:57 am

    Quoting Lisztomania:
    Do you think that any of your readers are aware that Devorah Blochar is woman and a feminist?
Well at least there some man here "smart enough" to figure it out.. but too smart to know the rest of Us Men.. aren't smart enough..
You folks "KILL ME".. and prove you don't need bullets to own a gun..


MrsJoe 71F
10811 posts
1/5/2019 8:07 am

    Quoting earthytaurus3:
    Warren is not a threat. I don't believe she stands a ghost of a chance of ever receiving the nomination. Sadly, she has allowed her personal war with her antagonist to ring too loudly and to over ride any legitimate cause she hopes to nurture.. At this point, I'm not even sure of what that cause is. She has prompted too much peripheral noise. Strike Elizabeth as a viable candidate.
I agree about Warren, and I think she is making so much "peripheral noise" that she is likely to drown out some serious contenders. Let's hope both parties just come up with the best of their best and give us a choice.

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MrsJoe 71F
10811 posts
1/5/2019 8:10 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:

    This is a satire......written by a woman.....a feminist......"I have no problem with women.My wife is a woman" is meant ironically....An obvious sarcasm......Have you ever met a man named "Devorah"?.....
I figured folks would know this, it is so obvious.
But on a serious note..... I believe there is too much emphasis being put on a person's gender or ethnicity as a basis for a good candidate....... and as a counterbalance for being a bad candidate, or excuse for losing.


Spring is here, it's beautiful outside. But let's sit on the computer and insult each other!


jiminycricket1 69M
10569 posts
1/5/2019 9:07 am

    Quoting MrsJoe:
    I figured folks would know this, it is so obvious.
    But on a serious note..... I believe there is too much emphasis being put on a person's gender or ethnicity as a basis for a good candidate....... and as a counterbalance for being a bad candidate, or excuse for losing.
well I agree. In theory, but not in practice..

One needs to honest with themselves....and see if they put the theory into practice

There are issues and two parts.....First part... a prejudice to gender, race, ethnicity, religion..how much money you got, and where you live..

Second there is prejudice with two political parties.

So the question is.... how much.... one prejudice effects the other prejudice.

For example is it possible to accept that a person's character has nothing to do with their political party.

Given the choice between good character and a political party.... which one does a person vote for..?

For me personally.. It's not even a choice.. it's how I base my choice...the person with the good character.. ALWAYS gets my vote...and I do not believe ALL Republicans have bad character and all Democrats have good Character.

Now this is where my opinion comes in.. With all the evidence and my interpretation.. Very few people actually do what I do.. so i'm in the minority.
But here's the rub, that accompanies the manipulation...The majority of MY minority is Democrat. The manipulation of that...is not in the choice of good character...it's in the non choice of bad character..So i could convince half of them to not vote for Hillary by convincing them she has bad character..
But a Republican can absolutely know,, need no convincing, that Trump has a bad character.. and they will still vote for him. Because his character could NEVER be worse than HILLARY.. or for that matter any other Democrat.

"You folks"........need proof? Open your eyes.


LeafReport 68M
1547 posts
1/5/2019 9:40 am

    Quoting earthytaurus3:
    Warren is not a threat. I don't believe she stands a ghost of a chance of ever receiving the nomination. Sadly, she has allowed her personal war with her antagonist to ring too loudly and to over ride any legitimate cause she hopes to nurture.. At this point, I'm not even sure of what that cause is. She has prompted too much peripheral noise. Strike Elizabeth as a viable candidate.
Last time someone said something similar to me when Bernie Sanders showed up, virtually unknown at the time. I remember telling the person, do not underestimate this man's powerful message. Do NOT underestimate Elizabeth Warren, and her message will resonate with progressives in exactly the same kind of way Sanders found traction. But I'll give you that the field is much bigger this time. But the dynamics are so different too. The California primary is early, Warren is ahead of others organizationally and I'm on her mailing list and others like me have a strong grasp of her views. She won't be losing any debates. What's perplexing is the REAL reason some people are not responding....and I'm very suspicious of your reasoning and the reasoning of others. It happens in politics...saw the same sort of thing with the republicans. For example...Mike Huckabee just makes me grind teeth...LOL Also, I used to at least like to hear what Rand Paul had to say...and it was interesting. I stayed with Paul when he filibustered for hours because it was interesting. But then he really turned me off in the debates. Kasich is another guy who has been great in television interviews for the last year...but he too was annoying in debates. Rubio has always been nothing but a robot...yet, he's not stupid and you try to at least listen. So what I'm telling you is that this democratic field is very strong with a ton of intellect. The problem will be to get the attention of voters long enough to be consumed. That happened in Sanders case because of the small field. It'll be harder for Warren but she's not going away. Republicans, especially Trump, are all scared of her...and Trump's pathetic treatment of ALL women will backfire spectacularly. The Trump train left the tracks months ago in disgrace, corruption, sexual perversion and history making incompetence.