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sparkleflit 76F
5205 posts
7/13/2020 2:11 pm
SCHOOL OPENING MANDATE


Questions for School Openings:
• If a teacher tests positive for COVID-19 are they required to quarantine for 2-3 weeks? Is their sick leave covered, paid?
• If that teacher has 5 classes a day with 30 students each, do all 150 of those students need to then stay home and quarantine for 14 days?
• Do all 150 of those students now have to get tested? Who pays for those tests? Are they happening at school? How are the parents being notified? Does everyone in each of those ' families need to get tested? Who pays for that?
• What if someone who lives in the same house as a teacher tests positive? Does that teacher now need to take 14 days off of work to quarantine? Is that time off covered? Paid?
• Where is the district going to find a substitute teacher who will work in a classroom full of exposed, possibly infected students for substitute pay?
• Substitutes teach in multiple schools. What if they are diagnosed with COVID-19? Do all the in each school now have to quarantine and get tested? Who is going to pay for that?
• What if a student in your 's class tests positive? What if your tests positive? Does every other student and teacher they have been around quarantine? Do we all get notified who is infected and when? Or because of HIPAA regulations are parents and teachers just going to get mysterious “may have been in contact” emails all year long?
• What is this stress going to do to our teachers? How does it affect their health and well-being? How does it affect their ability to teach? How does it affect the quality of education they are able to provide? What is it going to do to our ? What are the long-term effects of consistently being stressed out?
• How will it affect students and faculty when the first teacher in their school dies from this? The first parent of a student who brought it home? The first ?
• How many more people are going to die, that otherwise would not have if we had stayed home longer?
30% of the teachers in the US are over 50. About 16% of the total deaths in the US are people between the ages of 45-65.
We are choosing to put our teachers in danger.
(Feel Free to Copy/Paste)
(Thank you Emily Foster Day!)


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
7/13/2020 2:15 pm

Listening to that ignorant, entitled, criminal Betsy DeVos talking about the School Opening Mandate that she and the imbecile Trump cooked up, makes me want to puuke.........


LeafReport 73M

7/13/2020 3:06 pm

Wow...you took my breath away with this post.


myseek1 80F
1376 posts
7/13/2020 4:26 pm

I am for the way how Sweden handled corona and went on with their normal life... kids are going to school, restaurants are open, no regulations to wear masks..... A German doctor who lives in Sweden with his wife and 3 kids and works in the ICU and Emergency section in a hospital over there reports that they never had a dramatic corona situation.
Also, data in Denmark shows that sending kids back to school did not lead to an increase of corona infections.


Happiness is when what you think, what you say, what you do are in harmony - M. Gandhi


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
7/13/2020 4:43 pm

    Quoting LeafReport:
    Wow...you took my breath away with this post.
Trump, DeVos,Tucker Carlson et al.....are all billionaires who have hired expensive tutors for their children....and the same i true for most of those who they interact with.......And sending MacaNinny out there to lie for them just adds insult to injury..........Even today, she's saying that the US is doing great with the
Corona.....still pushing that BS about America's numbers are high because they are doing more testing than other countries.........

What the US government is saying to the citizens is called PROPAGANDA when they talk about other countries.......The Republican Convention is still going ahead in person.......Many speakers are giving their speeches by video to thousands of people breathing the same air.........The US government under the auspices of William Barr,is a criminal enterprise.......


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
7/13/2020 4:53 pm

    Quoting myseek1:
    I am for the way how Sweden handled corona and went on with their normal life... kids are going to school, restaurants are open, no regulations to wear masks..... A German doctor who lives in Sweden with his wife and 3 kids and works in the ICU and Emergency section in a hospital over there reports that they never had a dramatic corona situation.
    Also, data in Denmark shows that sending kids back to school did not lead to an increase of corona infections.
Their situations are not comparable......They have 20 cases a day in those countries and have small countries with state-managed health-care systems.


Koffla 67M
11998 posts
7/13/2020 7:11 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    Listening to that ignorant, entitled, criminal Betsy DeVos talking about the School Opening Mandate that she and the imbecile Trump cooked up, makes me want to puuke.........


You probably watched Dana Bash interview Education Secretary Betsy Devos this past weekend. It was an embarrassing performance asking students to return to school, while she openly admits they have no plan how to protect students.

Is anyone surprised? The woman has no plan because she has no idea what it's like to 1) teach in public schools or 2) administrate public schools. She's Secretary of Education because she's a financial supporter of Trump not because she has experience with education. Her plan is telling every school district to come up with a plan.

She's completely incompetent, she can't even answer a direct YES or NO question and she truly doesn't care. This is exactly what happens when people are literally allowed to buy positions in the Government. She is among a large number of people working with this regime who are wholly unqualified. Disgraceful.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
7/13/2020 7:40 pm

Many of Trump's choices for department heads seem like the antithesis of appropriate.....


LeafReport 73M

7/13/2020 7:56 pm

    Quoting myseek1:
    I am for the way how Sweden handled corona and went on with their normal life... kids are going to school, restaurants are open, no regulations to wear masks..... A German doctor who lives in Sweden with his wife and 3 kids and works in the ICU and Emergency section in a hospital over there reports that they never had a dramatic corona situation.
    Also, data in Denmark shows that sending kids back to school did not lead to an increase of corona infections.
Actually Sweeten was a failure and a similar policy killed thousands in South America...a fact you foolishly ignored. You might want to bone up on this before publicly commenting given the lives at risk


LeafReport 73M

7/13/2020 7:57 pm

Sorry for typos....on phone without my glasses lol


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
7/13/2020 8:25 pm

    Quoting LeafReport:
    Sorry for typos....on phone without my glasses lol
All is forgiven.....I'm often shocked and embarrassed by my posts when I see them...I'm typing on a laptop and the touch-pad is so sensitive that I often touch it inadvertently and I'm in a hurry and miss the mistakes......I used to copy/paste/delete and re-post many comments, but I'm getting less perfectionist about it......


Rocketship 79F
18530 posts
7/14/2020 4:15 am

Leaf is correct about Sweden. Their approach according reliable stats, has been a disaster.


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
7/14/2020 9:00 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    Listening to that ignorant, entitled, criminal Betsy DeVos talking about the School Opening Mandate that she and the imbecile Trump cooked up, makes me want to puuke.........
These people don't understand complicated..

You got to make it about them ..not about others

Like the safety of our kids? The necessity for their schooling., to protect teachers, school workers, parents and grandparent. Certainly those mean somethings, but it not the where all, end all.
Do we need to paint on the streets in front of schools... "KID LIVES MATTER" No the only thing that matters is doing everything to stop the spread of the virus.. That nothing else matters until that is done. Opening school doesn't do that ..it can ONLY make it worse. Only those who believe it's a hoax..can possibly believe that opening school will do anything to stop the "spread".

It's amazingly simple...you believe it or you don't
Stop the spread of the virus... and open up schools, open up businesses, open up neighborhood. allow for travel..allow for normal people to go see a doctor. see friend, see family.. have get-togethers. go shopping to go shopping...

Those that don't believe, either believe it's a hoax..or we can't stop the spread of virus so it doesn't matter to them. they aren't going to sacrifice one iota for something they don't believe.
I forgot... I imagine some even think that their belief in God will PROTECT THEM..That only God can allow a r*ped woman to get pregnant. or someone to catch the virus.. The invisible God, with the invisible enemy virus, with an invisible punishment for non-believer. It's simply God's will.
For me, the irony about that is totally amazing.. For in those people's complete ignorance about the "hoax', and not being able to stop the spread...if I had to pick the least IGNORANT and most rational argument about it.. I would pick it's Gods will. At least that way, we all got the same chance. let the chips fall where they may.. do it or don't do it.. Let it be God's will.
What I know is that whatever i do.. It's not going to be "Trump's Will"


Maudie1 74F
8151 posts
7/14/2020 9:21 am

My son and grandson are living in Sweden. I'm in a state of constant worry and anxiety over the way the pandemic was handled over there. Liam and Samuel are on their school holidays now so I can relax a little.


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
7/14/2020 9:23 am

We go from the top of the hill to the bottom of the barrel..In one year under Trump. I don't want to discuss what we didn't do, it no longer matters what we DIDN'T Do.. What we did.. was be the most powerful, intellectual, leader in the world..and prove to the world we are NOT .
WE are fucked until we get a vaccine that works and stops the spread. As the rest of world works to control the virus before that time.. WE have proved to the world we are not as good as them. We have done numerous thing to lower our standard in the world, throughout the last few years.. But this is the final straw.
.....Trump has destroyed US in the eyes of the world.. And that is not going to be over or forgotten when this virus is stopped. the greatest country on this planet, couldn't control it's own bowel movement and shat all over itself.


myseek1 80F
1376 posts
7/14/2020 1:25 pm

Everybody should do what they feel most comfortable with. "Coronavirus immunity:: Did Sweden's Model Fail?/Covod-19 Special (May 26, 2020)"

Happiness is when what you think, what you say, what you do are in harmony - M. Gandhi