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jiminycricket1 74M
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3/14/2018 10:00 am

Let's take a look at the more important issues.

Things in Trump's mind that creates these kinds of decisions.

Why we don't see things, the way he sees them..

We see the Secretary of State, as one of the most important Cabinet members...
Yet as a cabinet member, the secretary of state takes his orders directly from the President.....the secretary of state has very little autonomy...

Trump sees things as Personal first... ideological compatibility second.. and ability third.

Tillerson was singularly doomed when he called trump a "f*cking moron". No matter his compatible ideology or his ability. Tillerson did nothing in his job that caused this firing...

So in Trumps mind the idea of Secretary of State... is just that... a "secretary'...his secretary......Personally he didn't like his secretary.. so "You're Fired"

Let's get to overwhelming real factor of Tillerson firing..
Trump didn't care about this job as much as he cared about his government appointees autonomy.. the Secretary of State has no real autonomy.. but the CIA director and the FBI director. and the Attorney General DOES!

Trump doesn't really need the support of the Secretary of State.. but in his current situation, needs more control over the FBI and the CIA, and the Attorney General..
Pompeo is Trump barking dog, but he just doesn't obey to bite, Trump needs as a CIA Director. Same with Christopher Wray at the FBI....Who.barks... but doesn't bite when trump tells him too.

He wanted for Political reason to get rid all three... And appoint someone he's got a tighter leash on..

So this firing was killing two birds with one stone...When we look at Trump and his view of women.. it pretty easy to see he BELIEVES he has more control over women.. who still support him than he does men. Popeo, wasna't going to be the fall guy.. so name a women.. and again kill two birds with one stone.. Besides all that... the Secretary, has the most power in the Cabinet over the CIA....... he's got a Secretary of State , and one of his CIA underlings.. for now dual control over the CIA. Pompeo still leading the way, but Haspell as the fall girl pawn...

this action was not to better Secretary of State.. but taking the autonomy from the CIA Director
A prelude to taking the autonomy from the FBI Director..
Pompeo went along.. Obvious we have heard it in the past.... that Sessions would not go along with being "moved" to be replaced by a different a Attorney General... a particular failure,, but the idea and means, hasn't changed..

The connection of the Secretary of State with the CIA.. is the same connection as the Attorney general with the FBI....Now if Trump can just find a way to move Christopher Wray out of the FBI, and get Sessions to resign.....to establish a dual control over the FBI.... and get himself a biting dog, instead of a barking one......

Of course.... with the act of Deal.. don't be surprise if Nunez.. gets one of those positions... before the election in November.. he set himself up for it, and paid Trump's price..


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
3/14/2018 10:08 am

    Quoting  :

It's seems we agree. This is not about the face of it.. It's what's behind the mask

I was just further explaining .. what I understood to be your meaning..


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
3/14/2018 11:17 am

Trump's game is really simple..
To give positions autonomy..so the information from the autonomous position becomes autonomous.. It falls on the position.

So give autonomy.. only if you really have total control. Then insulate yourself from the decision making, Yet actuality make all the decisions.. take the credit.. but NEVER the blame.

Pompeo.. refused to be the fall guy,, but still would do what Trump tells him... he would bite as long as he couldn't get bitten back.. Trump will now advise US, of the complete autonomy of the CIA.. He will have "saved" the CIA and now move to "save" the FBI...... but in reality, Trump has control of the CIA, and an unsuspecting fall girl and a separate intermediary..In Pompeo.. A perfect World to Trump.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
3/14/2018 11:33 am

Don't kid yourself... the President, Congress, Supreme court.. who do you think has the real power in this country?

Well, if you're smart and look beyond.. the Constitution, Democracy, truth and justice. ..
The intelligence agencies and DOJ.. has all the dictatorial power to change things. If you don't think that..... why do you think, that at one time.. is was not the President, or congress, or the supreme court to fear.... But J. Edgar Hoover.. was considered the most powerful man in America.

Trump needs that power.... For both it's undemocratic use and to spoil.. it's undemocratic preventive measures.