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Rentier2 79M
104 posts
11/3/2021 3:42 pm
Same old, same old


Just watched an interview with an former CIA officer was in VN in 1975. He got out shortly before the NVA rolled into Saigon.

The NVA took the whole country in six weeks.

The officer attributes the collapse to the corruption in the government and the military. He kept reporting what he saw to the Saigon chief of station, Tom Polgar, but it never got past his desk because nobody wanted to hear that. If the true state of affairs had reached congress the VN would been cut off, and Kissinger didn't want that.

Sounds very much like what happened in Afghanistan when the Taliban took over.

The US should pick better allies.

Koffla 67M
11998 posts
11/3/2021 10:00 pm




The US should stop getting involved in other countries affairs, instead of spending so much money in foreign aid.


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
11/4/2021 4:05 am

It's ALL Chiiiina's fault...They "Gook" everything up
The have invaded us....I know for a fact there is a room in the White house.. totally dedicated to China
They write in their own special code..no one, but them, can understand..
The have a different slant on life.. you can tell by their eyes.
The want to rule the world with Ying, Yang and Yen.
The threaten US with Panda-monium,and Panda-emics.


Rentier2 79M
950 posts
11/4/2021 8:50 am

    Quoting Koffla:



    The US should stop getting involved in other countries affairs, instead of spending so much money in foreign aid.

The US doesn't spend as much on foreign aid as most Americans think.
For one thing, it's often tied to buying US products.


cayman07 79F

11/4/2021 9:33 pm

Not true Tx. They are showing that they could hit any base or ship around the world. Get a grip Tx. BTW, have you been in the military ? You were VN. Age?


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
11/5/2021 4:51 am

    Quoting  :

You say that now..but wait until The day you wake up.. and all you got to eat for breakfast is...
Chiang Kai Chex's

Today China will own your mortgage..
Tomorrow..China will own your house

They will force you to become a Chinese hacker,
because you don't know how to use Chop Sticks.

They will force you to play Chinese Checkers
And Pray to Buddha

They will send you a concubine
To work your fields
Provide your food
Bathe you
Take care of all your needs
And experiment with you sexually.

On second thought...
Where do i sign up!
Party On!


Rentier2 79M
950 posts
11/5/2021 8:26 am

    Quoting  :

Only if you invade us.


dusty17 73M
471 posts
11/5/2021 12:49 pm

    Quoting cayman07:
    Not true Tx. They are showing that they could hit any base or ship around the world. Get a grip Tx. BTW, have you been in the military ? You were VN. Age?
BTW cayman, WW2 War Heros know full well what it takes to win wars. By and large they advised their 'Vietnam War age' kids not to go to a war that the US showed little interest in winning, and smacked of US Imperialism. Did you ever ask yourself what France was doing in Vietnam?


cayman07 79F

11/9/2021 7:01 pm

    Quoting dusty17:
    BTW cayman, WW2 War Heros know full well what it takes to win wars. By and large they advised their 'Vietnam War age' kids not to go to a war that the US showed little interest in winning, and smacked of US Imperialism. Did you ever ask yourself what France was doing in Vietnam?
" they " were in the minority. What was France, Australi, canada and thailanddoing?

M


dusty17 73M
471 posts
11/10/2021 11:13 am

    Quoting cayman07:
    " they " were in the minority. What was France, Australi, canada and thailanddoing?

    M
"they" were a minority.

Apparently a majority approved of the invasion of Iraq in 2003. When we had a chance to get out in 2004 a majority voted to stay the course. We paid a high price and got what ...

Now I'm guessing a majority would say Iraq was a mistake .... Vietnam too.


cayman07 79F

11/10/2021 7:32 pm

I don,t intend to argue with you Dusty. I joined the AF in 1967 because I knew I had the skills to get these young men home. It was not political. I was recalled during Desert Storm and left willingly for the same reason. I respect your opinion and agree that it was a mistake but, blame it on Washington , not those that served. If it is appropriate, thanks for your service .