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brightsmile4you 80F
588 posts
9/1/2019 10:13 am
The real reason for hateful speech and divisiveness.


One of many ways politicians and others use to sow discord and hate among those who feel "left out and not heard those in power." Is this saying LBJ.

It is true what Pres LbJ said ....but it is sad it still works in this day and time. I hope one day we can have an honest dialogue and the folk who fall for old trick and feel left out and not heard will be heard and we can all work together to make our country...the USA. The great nation it can be for all of us.

President Lyndon B. Johnson once said, "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."


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LeafReport 73M

9/1/2019 1:18 pm

Wow...what an incredible contribution Brightsmile.


brightsmile4you 80F

9/1/2019 2:28 pm

    Quoting LeafReport:
    Wow...what an incredible contribution Brightsmile.
Thanks leaf...as you know I am not a writer .I am a painter but I feel we all need to speak out and try to get rid of the hate and divisiveness that is trying to divide us as a nation. We live in a great country and we all need to try to rise above the hate and mean rhetoric to save our country. I am trying to do my part.

oh I did type that info correct but for some reason some of the words dropped off after I posted it.


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starwomyn 70F
8871 posts
9/1/2019 2:33 pm

Extremism on either side is problematic. One person can see the number 6 while the other person sees the number 9. Depending on the perspective both are right.

Abracadabra


brightsmile4you 80F

9/1/2019 3:44 pm

Hello Starwomyn Thank you for responding. I understand Extremism and that we all see things differently but.......Respectfully I ask are you not off topic?

This blog is about how some people use hate ,fear and divisiveness to divide our country and how some folk fall for it and why they do.


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brightsmile4you 80F

9/2/2019 7:54 am

    Quoting  :

Hello ET ..Thank you so much for your thoughts and no you are not off track in my opinion.

I think you give the person at the helm now too much credit. The hate and divisiveness has been there all along just hidden. The person at the helm blew his dog whistle and let those folk who had been hiding their true feelings know that it was ok to vote for him because he was going to make it ok for them to come out of hiding.


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bondjam33 70M
840 posts
9/2/2019 2:55 pm

AN OPINION PIECE FROM THE NYTIMES by CHARLES BLOW

I guess Donald Trump was eager to counter the impression in Michael Wolff’s book that he is irascible, mentally small and possibly insane. On Tuesday, he allowed a bipartisan session in the White House about immigration to be televised for nearly an hour.

Surely, he thought that he would be able to demonstrate to the world his lucidity and acumen, his grasp of the issues and his relish for rapprochement with his political adversaries.

But instead what came through was the image of a man who had absolutely no idea what he was talking about; a man who says things that are 180 degrees from the things he has said before; a man who has no clear line of reasoning; a man who is clearly out of his depth and willing to do and say anything to please the people in front of him.

He demonstrated once again that he is a man without principle, interested only in how good he can make himself look and how much money he can make.
Yes, he has an intrinsic hostility to people who are not white, particularly when they challenge him, but as a matter of policy, the whole idea of building a wall for which Mexico would pay was just a cheap campaign stunt to, once again, please the people in front of him.

Trump is not committed to that wall on principle. He is committed only to looking good as a result of whatever comes of it. Mexico is never going to pay for it, and he knows it. He has always known it. That was just another lie. Someone must have stuck the phrases “chain migration” and “diversity lottery” into his brain — easy buzzwords, you see — and he can now rail against those ideas for applause lines.

But he is completely malleable on actual immigration policy. He doesn’t have the stamina for that much reading. Learning about immigration would require reading more words than would fit on a television news chyron.

If Donald Trump follows through with what he said during that meeting, his base will once again be betrayed. He will have proved once again that he was saying anything to keep them angry, even telling lies. He will have demonstrated once again his incompetence and unfitness.
And once again, they won’t care.

That is because Trump is man-as-message, man-as-messiah. Trump support isn’t philosophical but theological.

Trumpism is a religion founded on patriarchy and white supremacy.

It is the belief that even the least qualified man is a better choice than the most qualified woman and a belief that the most vile, anti-intellectual, scandal-plagued simpleton of a white man is sufficient to follow in the presidential footsteps of the best educated, most eloquent, most affable black man.

As President Lyndon B. Johnson said in the 1960s to a young Bill Moyers: “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

Trump’s supporters are saying to us, screaming to us, that although he may be the “lowest white man,” he is still better than Barack Obama, the “best colored man.”

In a way, Donald Trump represents white people’s right to be wrong and still be right. He is the embodiment of the unassailability of white power and white privilege.

To abandon him is to give up on the pact that America has made with its white citizens from the beginning: The government will help to underwrite white safety and success, even at the expense of other people in this country, whether they be Native Americans, African-Americans or new immigrants.

But this idea of elevating the lowest white man over those more qualified or deserving didn’t begin with Johnson’s articulation and won’t end with Trump’s manifestation. This is woven into the fabric of the flag.
As I have written here before, when Alabama called a constitutional convention in 1901, Emmet O’Neal, who later became governor, argued that the state should “lay deep and strong and permanent in the fundamental law of the state the foundation of white supremacy forever in Alabama,” and as part of that strategy he argued:

“I don’t believe it is good policy to go up in the hills and tell them that Booker Washington or Council or anybody else is allowed to vote because they are educated. The minute you do that every white man who is not educated is disfranchised on the same proposition.”

In his essay “Black Reconstruction in America, 1860-1880,” W.E.B. Du Bois discussed why poor whites didn’t make common cause with poor blacks and slaves but instead prized their roles as overseers and slave catchers, eagerly joining the Klan. This fed the white man’s “vanity because it associated him with the masters,” Du Bois wrote.

He continued:

“Slavery bred in the poor white a dislike of Negro toil of all sorts. He never regarded himself as a laborer, or as part of any labor movement. If he had any ambition at all it was to become a planter and to own ‘niggers.’ To these Negroes he transferred all the dislike and hatred which he had for the whole slave system. The result was that the system was held stable and intact by the poor white.”

For white supremacy to be made perfect, the lowest white man must be exalted above those who are black.

No matter how much of an embarrassment and a failure Trump proves to be, his exploits must be judged a success. He must be deemed a correction to Barack Obama and a superior choice to Hillary Clinton. White supremacy demands it. Patriarchy demands it. Trump’s supporters demand it.


brightsmile4you 80F

9/2/2019 4:40 pm

    Quoting bondjam33:
    AN OPINION PIECE FROM THE NYTIMES by CHARLES BLOW

    I guess Donald Trump was eager to counter the impression in Michael Wolff’s book that he is irascible, mentally small and possibly insane. On Tuesday, he allowed a bipartisan session in the White House about immigration to be televised for nearly an hour.

    Surely, he thought that he would be able to demonstrate to the world his lucidity and acumen, his grasp of the issues and his relish for rapprochement with his political adversaries.

    But instead what came through was the image of a man who had absolutely no idea what he was talking about; a man who says things that are 180 degrees from the things he has said before; a man who has no clear line of reasoning; a man who is clearly out of his depth and willing to do and say anything to please the people in front of him.

    He demonstrated once again that he is a man without principle, interested only in how good he can make himself look and how much money he can make.
    Yes, he has an intrinsic hostility to people who are not white, particularly when they challenge him, but as a matter of policy, the whole idea of building a wall for which Mexico would pay was just a cheap campaign stunt to, once again, please the people in front of him.

    Trump is not committed to that wall on principle. He is committed only to looking good as a result of whatever comes of it. Mexico is never going to pay for it, and he knows it. He has always known it. That was just another lie. Someone must have stuck the phrases “chain migration” and “diversity lottery” into his brain — easy buzzwords, you see — and he can now rail against those ideas for applause lines.

    But he is completely malleable on actual immigration policy. He doesn’t have the stamina for that much reading. Learning about immigration would require reading more words than would fit on a television news chyron.

    If Donald Trump follows through with what he said during that meeting, his base will once again be betrayed. He will have proved once again that he was saying anything to keep them angry, even telling lies. He will have demonstrated once again his incompetence and unfitness.
    And once again, they won’t care.

    That is because Trump is man-as-message, man-as-messiah. Trump support isn’t philosophical but theological.

    Trumpism is a religion founded on patriarchy and white supremacy.

    It is the belief that even the least qualified man is a better choice than the most qualified woman and a belief that the most vile, anti-intellectual, scandal-plagued simpleton of a white man is sufficient to follow in the presidential footsteps of the best educated, most eloquent, most affable black man.

    As President Lyndon B. Johnson said in the 1960s to a young Bill Moyers: “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

    Trump’s supporters are saying to us, screaming to us, that although he may be the “lowest white man,” he is still better than Barack Obama, the “best colored man.”

    In a way, Donald Trump represents white people’s right to be wrong and still be right. He is the embodiment of the unassailability of white power and white privilege.

    To abandon him is to give up on the pact that America has made with its white citizens from the beginning: The government will help to underwrite white safety and success, even at the expense of other people in this country, whether they be Native Americans, African-Americans or new immigrants.

    But this idea of elevating the lowest white man over those more qualified or deserving didn’t begin with Johnson’s articulation and won’t end with Trump’s manifestation. This is woven into the fabric of the flag.
    As I have written here before, when Alabama called a constitutional convention in 1901, Emmet O’Neal, who later became governor, argued that the state should “lay deep and strong and permanent in the fundamental law of the state the foundation of white supremacy forever in Alabama,” and as part of that strategy he argued:

    “I don’t believe it is good policy to go up in the hills and tell them that Booker Washington or Council or anybody else is allowed to vote because they are educated. The minute you do that every white man who is not educated is disfranchised on the same proposition.”

    In his essay “Black Reconstruction in America, 1860-1880,” W.E.B. Du Bois discussed why poor whites didn’t make common cause with poor blacks and slaves but instead prized their roles as overseers and slave catchers, eagerly joining the Klan. This fed the white man’s “vanity because it associated him with the masters,” Du Bois wrote.

    He continued:

    “Slavery bred in the poor white a dislike of Negro toil of all sorts. He never regarded himself as a laborer, or as part of any labor movement. If he had any ambition at all it was to become a planter and to own ‘niggers.’ To these Negroes he transferred all the dislike and hatred which he had for the whole slave system. The result was that the system was held stable and intact by the poor white.”

    For white supremacy to be made perfect, the lowest white man must be exalted above those who are black.

    No matter how much of an embarrassment and a failure Trump proves to be, his exploits must be judged a success. He must be deemed a correction to Barack Obama and a superior choice to Hillary Clinton. White supremacy demands it. Patriarchy demands it. Trump’s supporters demand it.
Hello Bondjam........Thank you for stopping by and yes this is a long read but what Mr Blow says is true. I have thought that surely people are intelligent and can see what is going on now.I think now they do but do not care.

I understand now that some people know what is wrong but they do not care because they do not want to feel that they might be "less than". There is a saying "there is none so blind as he who refuses to see"

I will not put anymore blogs up like this because people don't want to understand or try to come together as I hoped that they would.

I can only change myself. I often ask myself if I had been given special privileges all of my life because I was black...would I want to give it up? I can understand how some folk would not want to do that. I will add it is hard for me to understand though how Ministers and people who say they are Christians are able to to go along with that . I would think they would be the first to say...." No all people no matter the color of their skin should be treated equally.....In this great country the USA."


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Katie_au_lait 78F
7026 posts
9/3/2019 2:07 am

    Quoting brightsmile4you:
    Hello Bondjam........Thank you for stopping by and yes this is a long read but what Mr Blow says is true. I have thought that surely people are intelligent and can see what is going on now.I think now they do but do not care.

    I understand now that some people know what is wrong but they do not care because they do not want to feel that they might be "less than". There is a saying "there is none so blind as he who refuses to see"

    I will not put anymore blogs up like this because people don't want to understand or try to come together as I hoped that they would.

    I can only change myself. I often ask myself if I had been given special privileges all of my life because I was black...would I want to give it up? I can understand how some folk would not want to do that. I will add it is hard for me to understand though how Ministers and people who say they are Christians are able to to go along with that . I would think they would be the first to say...." No all people no matter the color of their skin should be treated equally.....In this great country the USA."
You and me both, Brightsmile!
Some people forget (or ignore) that we are all... each and every one of us ...part of the same Humanity. We all know that skin colour does not define us...skin has evolved exactly the ways we need for survival in the various climates we live in. Beneath the skin...we are all the same...all Human and all equal!


brightsmile4you 80F

9/3/2019 5:08 am

    Quoting Katie_au_lait:
    You and me both, Brightsmile!
    Some people forget (or ignore) that we are all... each and every one of us ...part of the same Humanity. We all know that skin colour does not define us...skin has evolved exactly the ways we need for survival in the various climates we live in. Beneath the skin...we are all the same...all Human and all equal!

Hello katie...Thank you for your response and yes i agree with you that some folk do have blinders on about certain facts. I suppose that if you are taught something like. I am superior because I wear clean socks then you believe that and you do not want anyone to tell you anything different.

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jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
9/3/2019 7:03 am

"I often ask myself if I had been given special privileges all of my life because I was black...would I want to give it up? I can understand how some folk would not want to do that."

Yes... "special privileges" and their "identifiers"....both real and imaginary.. create the perception of inequality.. where there is none.."Special privileges" are a LIE we tell ourselves.. so as to not face equality and humanity....The "special privileges" we think we have.. the "special privileges" we think others have and the "special privileges" we think we should have.

The the true irrational is through the 'identifiers" we use....Race, gender, wealth, beauty, intelligence, where we live, political views, Americanism, control, ..having a voice and not having a voice..

We all think we are "special".. and so we should... but there is NO such thing as "special" "privileges"....

The irrational part.. is it's not about Not having it.....It's the ""special privilege" of how much you got. How much THEY got... How you can get it...and how you can LOSE it..

there is no such thing as equality... in the way we use it.. equality is not absolute...

Equality is about balance.. Balancing your own haves and have nots.. against everyone else's haves and have not..
Two thing make this true.......Nobody has it ALL..and Nobody has Nothing..What falls in between is just a matter of perception and CHOICE
Believe it or not... we all know it.....EQUALITY........The problem is..
none of us can accept it.


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
9/3/2019 8:00 am

The "higher" purpose... the "higher" ideals....that forces equality on us all...
Let's, For the sake of an example, use faith in GOD as a "higher purpose" and a "higher ideal"
It is pure equality...Nobody doesn't have it....
Does it require.. for one to have faith....wealth, power color, gender, politics, beauty, and being American? To be able to control others, and not be controlled.

Does one's faith in God.. require a cost?... Is faith in God a "special privilege"

If you have it... would you trade it.. for other kinds of 'special privileges". Would you trade it for wealth, beauty, power, and control?

If the "Devil".. was to come upon YOU and tell you .. you can have it all...would you take it.? When he tells you, you can have ALL the "special privileges"....Including your faith?
Even though it undermine the "higher purpose" and ""higher ideals...So as to undermine equality
When the "Devil" stands on the Church pulpit or the Presidential podium and preachers it to you... do you buy it?
Do you "sell" your soul.... for a few pieces of silver, and "special privileges"?


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
9/3/2019 10:16 am

Racism...special privilege... birth , life, death.... and equality..

Racism is not about the color of a person skin....It about the color of a person's heart.. It knows No skin color...A black will tell me, I can't understand that because I'm not black... My response is that THEY can't understand that because they are not Me.. and although they choose not to be ME.. I choose to be them..

For the moment we are born, we determine our "special privilege"... We travel in life with special privileges..
WE always seem to miss the point .. that Life is it's own "special privilege"
We deny what we have been given....WE go through the motions, of OUR "special privilege", and deny OUR equality

But I do have a suspicions.... that I do believe to be true for EVERYONE..

Each day that passes it become more and more clear to me..
That on my last day.. nothing will be more clear than our EQUALITY, and the "special privilege" of Life itself.


hobsonschoice 75F
3600 posts
9/3/2019 3:57 pm

The world could use more empathy.


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
9/4/2019 12:27 am

well i think it's important to define empathy..before we decide we need more of it..

" the ability to share someone else's feelings or experiences by imagining what it would be like to be in that person's situation"

Well, i'm sure sparkle is going to disagree.. but I disagree with that definition.. as it applies to the "imagination".. as it is commonly interpreted. as a synonym.. that relates to "sympathy". that I totally disagree with..

for me... "empathy" has much more to do with equality... The equality of the shared experience and the shared feelings. the empathizer, can not remove himself from the empathy... the empathizer is the empathy.. so empathy is not "imagining" it.. it's living it..

So sympathy doesn't work for empathy...but exacerbates the division between those that are privileged and those that are NOT.
Jesus explains it best.. What you do to the least of these. you do unto me. You can't just say it... You got to believe it.


brightsmile4you 80F

9/4/2019 5:57 am

Hello Hobson...Thank you so much for your input and I agree with you.

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brightsmile4you 80F

9/4/2019 6:27 am

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    "I often ask myself if I had been given special privileges all of my life because I was black...would I want to give it up? I can understand how some folk would not want to do that."

    Yes... "special privileges" and their "identifiers"....both real and imaginary.. create the perception of inequality.. where there is none.."Special privileges" are a LIE we tell ourselves.. so as to not face equality and humanity....The "special privileges" we think we have.. the "special privileges" we think others have and the "special privileges" we think we should have.

    The the true irrational is through the 'identifiers" we use....Race, gender, wealth, beauty, intelligence, where we live, political views, Americanism, control, ..having a voice and not having a voice..

    We all think we are "special".. and so we should... but there is NO such thing as "special" "privileges"....

    The irrational part.. is it's not about Not having it.....It's the ""special privilege" of how much you got. How much THEY got... How you can get it...and how you can LOSE it..

    there is no such thing as equality... in the way we use it.. equality is not absolute...

    Equality is about balance.. Balancing your own haves and have nots.. against everyone else's haves and have not..
    Two thing make this true.......Nobody has it ALL..and Nobody has Nothing..What falls in between is just a matter of perception and CHOICE
    Believe it or not... we all know it.....EQUALITY........The problem is..
    none of us can accept it.
Hello Jiminycricket......Thank you so much for your responses. I must explain my definition for racism from a dictionary.

When a government or a majority establish laws and rules that deny equal rights to a minority based on the color of their skin........ That is Racism.

Black people cannot be racist in the USA.

I want to tell you also my reason for writing this blog. I was naive enough to think that since some folk here were writing blogs about racism that they might want to hear from a person who knows what racism and white privilege means to a person of color who has lived with the effects of it for many years. Sadly i was mistaken.

I hope that one day the USA will have an honest debate about Racism and White privilege in this country and we can all move past the hate and divisiveness that has caused so much pain.

I will tell anyone that it is not a good idea to try and start that process on a small level on an online site for older people.....lol.



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brightsmile4you 80F

9/4/2019 6:34 am

    Quoting  :

Hello Et.......Thank you so much for your response. I must respectfully say that your definition for white privilege and mine are at odds and for you to say that I may have enjoyed more privilege than you in the USA is absurd.

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hobsonschoice 75F
3600 posts
9/4/2019 8:57 am

Bright, how can you expect to have an honest debate about racism when the racist people don't see themselves as racist? In fact they get upset when you point out their racist comments or call them out for being racists.

I admit, in the past, I have said things that were racist but I hadn't really given any thought to what I was saying. There were sayings that got tossed around and I thoughtlessly repeated some. One of them, that is still commonly used, referred to Jewish people - sad to say I really didn't understand what the problem was until it was explained to me. I haven't used that term in decades.

“Reverse racism” has never existed in America even though some SFF members seem to try to claim it exist. White people are the only racial group to have ever established and retained power in the United States.

Good blog.


brightsmile4you 80F

9/4/2019 12:04 pm

    Quoting hobsonschoice:
    Bright, how can you expect to have an honest debate about racism when the racist people don't see themselves as racist? In fact they get upset when you point out their racist comments or call them out for being racists.

    I admit, in the past, I have said things that were racist but I hadn't really given any thought to what I was saying. There were sayings that got tossed around and I thoughtlessly repeated some. One of them, that is still commonly used, referred to Jewish people - sad to say I really didn't understand what the problem was until it was explained to me. I haven't used that term in decades.

    “Reverse racism” has never existed in America even though some SFF members seem to try to claim it exist. White people are the only racial group to have ever established and retained power in the United States.

    Good blog.
Hello Hobson........Thank you sooooo much for your input. I laughed when I saw your post because last night I saw how the blog was going and I questioned myself. lol..I asked myself the same question that you just asked. I thought seriously of just deleting the blog but I changed my mind because hopefully some folk will read it and it might cause them to think.. I thank you for sharing because some people say things that they don't understand the meaning of until it is explained to them.

Since you shared...let me tell you what happened to me......I lived with my Grandmother when I was small. I used to hear my grandmother talking about "Geechies" from South and North Carolina. Since I had heard her say that then I thought it was ok for me to say it too. When I Started working for AT&T after moving back to Atlanta. I met this nice black lady and she was telling me that she was from South Carolina . Unknowingly I said to her " oh are you a " Geechie" ? She knew that I did not know so she told me to never call anyone that again because it is an insult. I have never called anyone that again


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jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
9/4/2019 12:56 pm

yes.. you define racism.. by actual events and what they mean to you personally..

I don't wish to disagree with your interpretation..You can not be racist because you know what racism is..

But that is your interpretation.. and those that are not black can also understand....It doesn't have to be everyone else's definiton...You don't have to try and make it so.

The idea that racism can be defined by color.. is absurd.. To assume that racism can only be "white racism" is.. "prejudical". It's "labeling"...It doesn't solve racism.. It exacerbates it.

The idea that America is systematically racist.. is not True..
Are there racists Americans.?. Yes....... YES.... Are American RACISTS white? ....Yes
Doe the American System allow for abuses to it.?.. YES... Does the American system allow correction to it.?.. YES

Is there an American system of White Racism?... NO NO NO
Are all white Americans either racist or complicit in the system of racism?. NO NO NO..
Like most the problems we face... the battle to find a solution is not between the enemies... but in the commonality.
The battle of racism in this country... Is White on White. You really have very little to do with finding a solution. It's been the same battle for 300 years.... And the White racist... haven't even come close to winning.

And although you can't see it.......YOU ARE WINNING...this time and place is not really a set back... it's an exposure.
In political terms ... Liberals can not win the battle against conservatives....They MUST depend on Conservatives to win the battle for them.

The problem with what is 'bad' .. is that we only see the solutions.. We never see what the reason "bad" doesn't turn to worse. Yet.. that is path to a solution.

the day you believe racism in this country is White People.... and it can not get any worse.. Is the day.. you lose any chance of finding a solution.... the day the solution will just rest in black hands..... The day in America that you choose to make the battle between White and Black.. YOU will LOSE.. You lose it by Hobson's definition.... "White people are the only racial group to have ever established and retained power in the United States". You see what white racists
have done..What you don't see is what White racist want to to do.. what white racists with support from whites could do..... what white racists are prevented from doing..
You are not the one preventing them..

The truth is that white people are far less racist than you think..
But the irony is... white people are probably far more racist than I think. At least today.. it seems that way.


brightsmile4you 80F

9/4/2019 2:59 pm

    Quoting  :

Hello Et........Did i read this wrong? Your words....For all I know, you may have enjoyed more 'privilege' than I have!

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brightsmile4you 80F

9/4/2019 3:05 pm

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    yes.. you define racism.. by actual events and what they mean to you personally..

    I don't wish to disagree with your interpretation..You can not be racist because you know what racism is..

    But that is your interpretation.. and those that are not black can also understand....It doesn't have to be everyone else's definiton...You don't have to try and make it so.

    The idea that racism can be defined by color.. is absurd.. To assume that racism can only be "white racism" is.. "prejudical". It's "labeling"...It doesn't solve racism.. It exacerbates it.

    The idea that America is systematically racist.. is not True..
    Are there racists Americans.?. Yes....... YES.... Are American RACISTS white? ....Yes
    Doe the American System allow for abuses to it.?.. YES... Does the American system allow correction to it.?.. YES

    Is there an American system of White Racism?... NO NO NO
    Are all white Americans either racist or complicit in the system of racism?. NO NO NO..
    Like most the problems we face... the battle to find a solution is not between the enemies... but in the commonality.
    The battle of racism in this country... Is White on White. You really have very little to do with finding a solution. It's been the same battle for 300 years.... And the White racist... haven't even come close to winning.

    And although you can't see it.......YOU ARE WINNING...this time and place is not really a set back... it's an exposure.
    In political terms ... Liberals can not win the battle against conservatives....They MUST depend on Conservatives to win the battle for them.

    The problem with what is 'bad' .. is that we only see the solutions.. We never see what the reason "bad" doesn't turn to worse. Yet.. that is path to a solution.

    the day you believe racism in this country is White People.... and it can not get any worse.. Is the day.. you lose any chance of finding a solution.... the day the solution will just rest in black hands..... The day in America that you choose to make the battle between White and Black.. YOU will LOSE.. You lose it by Hobson's definition.... "White people are the only racial group to have ever established and retained power in the United States". You see what white racists
    have done..What you don't see is what White racist want to to do.. what white racists with support from whites could do..... what white racists are prevented from doing..
    You are not the one preventing them..

    The truth is that white people are far less racist than you think..
    But the irony is... white people are probably far more racist than I think. At least today.. it seems that way.
Hello Jiminycricket..............Thank you for sharing your opinion of my blog. Since you seem to disagree with some of the things I said.......I think we should just agree to disagree.

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jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
9/5/2019 7:56 am

    Quoting brightsmile4you:
    Hello Jiminycricket..............Thank you for sharing your opinion of my blog. Since you seem to disagree with some of the things I said.......I think we should just agree to disagree.
It may seem to you .. I disagree with things you say... but I don't.. It's not disagreement...

I am against labeling....To define a group of people by a single label to me is a necessary part of racism. It's not the entirety... the single label becomes a "code word".. for other stuff.

We see what a White racist does... and that a white racist does it to black people. For a black person..it is it's own definition and "racism" is against the color of a person's skin.. You know that is not the whole true...... From the racist perspective.. It's more far reaching than color of ones skin.. "Black people" to a racist is an "identifier" that all it is...it's real definition is defined by a culture, a social values, family values, religious values, criminality, language, education, wealth, and advantage taking..
if I would use a single word definer of that motivates the racist.... it's not hate.. IT'S FEAR..and what a racist irrationally does.. To try and overcome that FEAR.

It's the racist that's " ALL messed up" because ALL of that is UNTRUE.

So we need to think of it beyond the scope of just "white racism" and black people..

Those same racist people.. Do the same thing....To Jewish people, Muslim people, and "illegal immigrant.. and all immigrants, different than them.. so they do it to everybody..
Label them with code words .. that doesn't define.... the color, or the religion, or the citizenship.. but "other" stuff...

So, although you are NOT racist... You need to think about things you do..
For example... When you say "White racism"... are you defining racism. or are you defining what is white. Is white racism a code word about being "White"
For example.. "White privilege" or White atrocities, White culture, White Wealth, White control, White Elitism, White America, White criminality and SLAVERY.

I know you are defining racism.. but others don't....because all they understand... is that when you are in "Rome".. You do as the "Romans" do..


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
9/5/2019 9:49 am

Trump and his supporters are RACISTS....By any definition I can come with..
But the rub about that.. is their racism...has had very little success against black people..
But not since the success of Nazi Germany and it campaign against Jews, has a country been as successful In showing it's racism Than AMERICA today..
Defining a group of people..America today shows and proves it racism through "illegal immigrants"

Never in our history.. has a label.. been codified like the "illegal immigrant".. where the word doesn't define the illegality.. but the immigrant.. any immigrant

To believe it working... the color of Your skin doesn't matter...All that matters is you are American.

As soon as you can picture an "illegal immigrant" in your mind.. It's a done deal..

There is no "profiling" , today, that even comes close to the profiling of illegal immigrant.. and the criteria on which that profiling is based.
One can't picture an "illegal immigrant".. an illegal immigrant could be anybody...... An "illegal immigrant".. is not defined by their culture, their criminality, their race, their circumstance, and their reason for being here..but is "profiled" as such..

but Trump and his cohort..have made it so..have codified "illegal immigrant" As Hispanic, poor, criminal, migrant worker, job takers, welfare seekers, unwanted
by their own country and ours... "invaders" and an "infestation"... they have SUCCESSFULLY turned their own fear into OUR fear.

That is What describes the American systematic racism...

Trump first tried to do it to Muslims with his ban.. not successful
And The irony and unsuccessful..Trump's people have in defining black people, so as to play the reverse race card.. He's still working on that one
But they have been successful in defining 'illegal immigrants"

And Trump, the azzhole that he is.. Plays on that success.
If he can do that.. he can play it all the way to the "White" house, and deal with Blacks latter.

Well.. It a warning... no matter the color of your skin.....You better take care of the "illegal immigration" problem first.....as it relates to "brown" people.....Because that is Trump's first Domino to fall.


brightsmile4you 80F

9/6/2019 6:36 am

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Hello Boogie........I am not a writer and therefore it seems I did not get my point across. I must say you did a magnificent job of using a few lines to express exactly what I was trying to get across to the people. Thank you so much for that. See what can happen when we as a nation work together..When we (all races in the USA) start working together ...then we will be an awesome force. I know that some whites are dealing with the "fear" of payback. I cannot speak for all Black and brown people but the majority of them just want a level playing field.

There was and old song that James Brown sang the words were " I don't want nobody to give me nothing open up the door and I'll get it myself"

We all probably have some parts of our lives where we might have disliked a person because of the color of their skin but when we learned better we did better and dropped the prejudice.

I admit in the past when I was young a caucasian person never treated me wrong but I disliked them for what they did to my people. This is a bit weird because I always had a desire for caucasian males but hid that fact until i was old and divorced. I lost all hate that I had for the caucasian race when Mrs Viola Liuzzo was murdered for helping Black people. I realized then how dumb my hate was.


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brightsmile4you 80F

9/6/2019 6:49 am

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My hat is off to you Boogie....You are right about my intent for this blog and In my opinion you are correct about some of the responses. I will not try to explain or start a dialogue about this anymore but if anyone is interested look up Jane Elliott on youtube and watch her classes.



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brightsmile4you 80F

9/7/2019 5:49 am

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Hello Boogie. It seems as though you have raised a kind and loving son. I can see why you are so proud of him as you should be.

I think when my generation and the one next die out you will not see racism in the USA as it is now. The old folk are the one's that have the hate and racism inbred in them.( Not all are this way). The young people now are able to go to school and mix and mingle with people of all races and they find out that people are the same no matter the color of their skin.

I hope that you are right that this blog might be a small light for someone to at least see and question their fears.


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rainydayz 69F
145 posts
9/16/2019 4:44 pm

You stated, "Black people cannot be racist in the USA."

So it's only everyone other than black people who are racist? Is that what you would have me think you believe? I hear black people every single day screaming at "whitey". Were the shoe on the other foot and white people were spewing such tripe, I would agree that was racist. Having said that, I see more racism in the last ten or so years from black people than I do whites.

I couldn't care less what the color of one's skin is. It is the character of the person that counts.

“The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it.”


brightsmile4you 80F

9/17/2019 7:44 am

    Quoting rainydayz:
    You stated, "Black people cannot be racist in the USA."

    So it's only everyone other than black people who are racist? Is that what you would have me think you believe? I hear black people every single day screaming at "whitey". Were the shoe on the other foot and white people were spewing such tripe, I would agree that was racist. Having said that, I see more racism in the last ten or so years from black people than I do whites.

    I couldn't care less what the color of one's skin is. It is the character of the person that counts.
Rainydayz........Hello you took a part of what I said to fit your narrative.

Hello Jiminycricket......Thank you so much for your responses. I must explain my definition for racism from a dictionary.

When a government or a majority establish laws and rules that deny equal rights to a minority based on the color of their skin........ That is Racism.

Black people cannot be racist in the USA.

Black people are neither a majority in the USA nor are we a majority in our governing body..........Hence the statement we cannot be racist in the USA.


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rainydayz 69F
145 posts
9/18/2019 5:43 pm

Again, brightsmile, you said "black people cannot be racist in the USA". Your premise is that equal rights are denied to a minority based on the color of their skin. Equal rights are just that, equal. Were whites to start a White Caucus, you'd call that racism and so would I, yet the Black Caucus isn't? A good look at our Congress will show you that there are many, many people of color there. Are you saying that they are invoking racism along with their counterparts when laws are enacted? How about all the young hotshots - both white and those of color, whether that color is black or brown - who spew racist hatred at each other? Are only the whites guilty of racist comments? No, we will disagree on this , maybe even vehemently.

“The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it.”